Tommy Jone

Just now, TheCasillas said:

My default is DJ Moore and CMC. Chiefs only had Kelce and Hill. Which all four are elite talent in the league (when healthy)

Totally.  I'm just not counting on CMC...  And I feel like DJ is on the cusp of being one of those guys in space, but not quite there.

1 hour ago, Michael G said:

I am really interested in our secondary this year. There is a lot going on with this Group.

-Steve Wilks taking over

-J. Horn returning from injury

-CJ Henderson getting coached up this offseason and starting fresh

-Djax coming back (and Juston Burris)

-Adding X. Rhodes (and Chris Westry)

What are our expectations for this group? Who are our starters? Who is the Nickel? Will Chinn see more time in the box (Woods has excelled in this role too)? Who plays (deep centerfield) FS when needed? Who gets cut from the CB room (any surprises)? 

I am excited at the potential. There's a ton of it.  Horn bounces back to his play early last season, CJ puts it together, Jackson actually has one of his "up" years, and Rhodes plays well.

If it all comes together there is a lot to like.  I think it mostly comes down to coaching.  The raw talent in the secondary (we have I think three 9.90+ RAS guys) is there.

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

They're probably going to need to be good because this year's pass rush isn't likely as good as last year's.

Yeah we need to put Chinn in a position to make plays near the LOS.  I'd like to see his pass rushing moves.

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

WCO still employs a deep ball. Maybe not as frequently as a Coryell but it's there.

Personally, I used to not be a big fan of WCOs but I've warmed to them over the years. When you saw how effective Sean Payton's offense was, it became pretty hard to hate.

In the end, I honestly don't care that much either way as long as we win.

Right but I thought the OP was implying it was a bread and butter thing.

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

Chiefs offense is a variation of the WCO.... they seem pretty exciting to me 

Fair enough, but what players do we have that do well in space?  We don't have a freak like Tyreek.

2 hours ago, poundaway said:

His OC's were Todd Haley, Kitchens, Todd Monken, and Alex Van Pelt. 4OC's in 4 years.  His HCs were Jackson, Kitchens and Stefanski. 

The "shlt on everything" crowd loves to talk about how important coaching is and then ignores it when it doesn't suit their narrative. 

I didn't want this trade and railed against it.  But he's our QB now.  He has an excellent deep ball and some grit.  Combine his deep ball accuracy with Macadoo's west coast O, DJ, Robbie, a healthy Marshall, and our new line...it just seems likely the O will improve, possibly substantially.  

There's just hateful people out that that have to shlt on everything.

 
 

Not sure how Baker's deep ball is going to work in a WCO..

edited to add that WCO sucks and is hella boring

Baker has been brought in to start. The FO knows what a distraction he would become if he was forced to be the backup

Won't get a jersey on game days.

Depends.  What system is he coming from, and how does that compare to ours?  If it's a good fit, we honestly might be able to make some noise.

Kinda hard to deny at this point.  Regardless of if you like it or not.

What is the cap implication for cutting Sam?

21 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

@Tommy Jone They callin' you.

Mo fro, I'm here to ruin your ass but you still get a fat contract so it's all good

3 hours ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I don’t wanna hear about our run stuffer “leaning out.” Seems counter productive 

I mean if it helps him corrupt the pocket...

My bold prediction is that Barno gets 5 or more sacks as a rotational piece.

1 hour ago, davos said:

I wouldn't say excited, but TMJ better be able to make an impact this year.  I don't care who's spraying the ball, if he's still inactive for gameday to start the first few weeks, it's likely in bust territory for him. 

I really hope he can become something considering the trading down and everyone we passed on to wind up with him as our second pick. 

5 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

I hate this fan base. The dumbass nicknames it tries to force on players man...ugh. Golden corral...like...wtf bro.

Let's list them all. How about "Lake Norman"

Barno with a LB number... (I know that doesn't really mean anything) 

Outside of Horn and Christensen (in a very limited capacity), I think it's bust city personally 

58 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Mike Seidman, Jeff King, Michael Gaines - these are all three panther legends that hopefully Thomas will one day be compared to 

Holy moly, this is a trip down memory lane

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

Yea that will help, even Burns dropped into coverage with Snow callin plays. He can follow, but nearly all add weight coming to the NFL and unless he can be a 270 LB......edge is his spot. Personally never a fan, maybe one time a game I want my edge dropping back in coverage. Many "WTFs" were had when I saw peppers do it. 

I do want to look into the Baylor D more, cause the reddick-style edge was unique. I think they truly want to have that D in the NFL as their base. 

Lastly I do feel the panthers have the fastest D in the whole NFL. 

We played a good deal of Wide 9 in Rhule's first year. Didn't really watch much this past season, but Barno may be able to eat in that scheme. 

5 hours ago, shaqattaq said:

VT played him at LB also according to nfl.com. ST gunner was the first thing that jumped into my mind when I read his profile and saw all that speed!

Same

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

I think its a uphill battle for him just to make the team, love the pick and all. No issue for a mid-round 6th.

That said, think him as a gunner! or a 3rd and long specialist. I think weight room is his path and that means DL.  

FYI, he did play linebacker in HS per the OP

5 hours ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I mean can this man be primarily a linebacker?

That's my question as well. I wonder how he performed while dropped into coverage...

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Matt is taking #1.

Whew lad

17 minutes ago, Zod said:

4. I'd like to remind everyone that for a LT to step in and be good right away is very rare. Most struggle for at least a few games if not an entire season. Heck, Jordan Gross started at RT his rookie year for this very reason.

Icky's top tier intelligence will help him quite a bit here, I imagine. 

Would really like Tariq Woolen.