JawnyBlaze

CJ's gonna retire soon? That's news to me. Isn't he like 28?

Not bad.  If we're going 2nd round RB I'd prefer Ameer Abdullah myself, but I wouldn't be mad about Coleman.  The only pick I flat out disagree with is Conley.  Dude has brick hands.  Not lapses in concentration, not occasional dropsies, he seems to drop about everything that isn't a gimme.  Just going off what I've seen of him, though.  Haven't thoroughly researched him, I could be wrong. 

I'm not as wowed by Algholor as most here are, but I'd definitely take Perriman over Hardy.  I LOVE Hardy...but not as a 1st round prospect.  I'm hoping for him in the 3rd, but depending on our 1st round pick I might be ok with him in the 2nd.  Hardy's got two physical limitations that are hard to overcome (but entirely possible), and that's why I wouldn't want to take the risk in the 1st.  He's short and he's not especially fast.  Those are two big hurdles.  His hands, savvy, wiggle, route running, and hands are top notch though so I do believe he'll be successful.  Achieving elite would be quite an accomplishment though.

There's room on this squad for Perriman AND Hardy....

 

 

If we gotta choose between Reaves and Tolbert I'd rather keep Tolbert.  He's a capable receiver and he can throw blocks, in addition to grinding out the short yards better than Reaves could.  I know the whole younger thing, but we got Fozzy and likely a RB added in the draft for the youth movement.  I think Tolbert is still worth $1.4mil to us.

As a refresher, here's probably the best site for checking out prospects for yourself instead of blindly listening to the prefabricated opinions of Kiper and the other media "scouts".

 

http://draftbreakdown.com/players/breshad-perriman/

 

Main thing to take away from these videos, in my opinion, is how absolutely horrible Perriman's QB is.  Pay attention to how many of the passes he catches that he has to contort his body around to make.  He drops a couple he shouldn't, but I think his drop numbers are severely inflated by the quality of the passes thrown to him.

holy poo that's fast for his size.  I was interested in him in the 1st before today, now I'd definitely be happy with him in the 1st.

With the Kraken gone, it's settled. TD is my next jersey. Second favorite Panther of all time.

3 WRs though? KB, Strong, Perriman, Hardy, Brown....youngest WR corps ever. Good though.

Lol a few times? That draft would be crazy......

....crazy awesome.

His message was that the league is more important to him than the team.

http://www.nfl.com/DraftTown

 

 

Okay, so who wants to go to Chitown?

 

That looks like fun.  I'd love to go.  I'm even going to be on leave leading up to the draft.  Too far, though.

 

Man a lot of you guys act like Hardy is an elite, 1st ballot hall of famer we'll never replace.

 

 

Hardy is an elite run stoper and a good pass rusher. A lot of his sacks were buffed up late in the season from weaker OTs, but he's got a motor that never stops.

 

 

Our Run defense suffered more than our pass rush when he was gone last year, we'll be fine without him

 

Don't think we'll be fine without him, as evidenced by our pathetic pass rush last year.  If Hardy plays 5 or 6 more years like the past two years he will be a 1st ballot hall of famer.  Having a motor that never stops, combined with his abilities in the pass rush AND the run are a very rare combination.

 

I just think a guy like Hardy would fight to his grave if this woman pulled a Gone Girl on him which was what your post was implying she might have done. Very strange that you would reward something for doing something that despicable.

 

It's possible.  I haven't seen Gone Girl (no spoilers, though you've already kinda spoiled it ), but I could just as easily believe he'd value the huge financial hit he'd take by fighting it more than the principle of making sure she doesn't get away with her heinous actions.

 

I was quite confident we'd get significant comp picks.  Not surprised at all.  Those are going to help a lot.

If she really faked her injuries, do you honestly think Hardy would have been willing to pay her off? If someone did that to you and significantly ruined your reputation to a huge chunk of the entire country, would you reward that lying skank with a 7 figure payout?

 

Dozens of photos of her bruises exist. This is a fact.

Hardy paid her off so the charges would be dropped. This is a fact.

 

The only reasonable conclusion I can come up with knowing those two things is that Hardy paid her off because he knew he was guilty.

 

Also, I have a higher opinion of you than the sort of simplistic "oh he paid her off, that means he must be guilty" mindset we see from the uninformed masses.  I see all these comments on PFT articles, elsewhere and people I talk to up here and it just amazes me that people can be so utterly simple minded than to believe that because he paid her off it's proof that he did it.  You're better than that.

 

If she really faked her injuries, do you honestly think Hardy would have been willing to pay her off? If someone did that to you and significantly ruined your reputation to a huge chunk of the entire country, would you reward that lying skank with a 7 figure payout?

 

Dozens of photos of her bruises exist. This is a fact.

Hardy paid her off so the charges would be dropped. This is a fact.

 

The only reasonable conclusion I can come up with knowing those two things is that Hardy paid her off because he knew he was guilty.

 

Hardy paying her off isn't a fact.  It's a theory.  One I actually do believe however.  Does it prove he's guilty?  Absolutely not.  Paying her off was an economical move.  Paying her was probably cheaper than paying his lawyers AND it got the case resolved quicker.  Do you think that if he hadn't paid her off the whole ordeal would have been done by now and he would have been able to hop into FA with a resolution in time to get a deal worth up to $13mil for one year?  I sincerely doubt it.  The only reasonable conclusion I can come up with, knowing all the facts (as well as believing the payoff theory) is that he needed the situation done in order to get on with his life and get on with getting paid.  For all we know the case would still be going on now if it hadn't been dropped.  And no team is going to offer him a contract until the legal process is done.  He wouldn't have been able to receive offers til all the real money had dried up.

 

I've been one of Hardy's biggest supporters for the past 9 months, at least in terms of keeping him. But there was a big development that happened quietly last month that basically nobody paid attention to: turns out the DA's office had in its possession pictures of bruises and welts all over Nicole Holder's body from head to toe. Face, arms, legs, torso, back, feet......Hardy clearly did it. If he thought she faked it, he would have fought tooth and nail and would have never paid her off.

Now that you can (I believe) definitively say Hardy did beat her, it becomes a matter of giving someone a second chance. However, since Hardy is maintaining his innocence, he'll never be apologizing and admitting what he did. So I think I'm going to begrudgingly agree with Richardson's decision to let him go.

As for Cam or Luke getting the same treatment, Hardy was basically on their same level in terms of playmaking ability. And I think if someone accused those two of beating them and they had pictures of their injuries all over their body to prove it, I think they would have gotten the same treatment from Richardson, I really do.

If I recall correctly those photos were taken well after the incident and their legitimacy was questionable at best. From what I remember, the bruises were supposedly minor and the only real bruise was supposed to be on her arm where they were trying to remove her from the apartment.

Then there's the whole thing where she was asked in the first "trial" if she received any damage from the attack and her answer was that she broke a nail. If she were battered and bruised you don't think she would have mentioned that?

As someone said before, if pictures that damning existed you don't think the DA would have pursued the case even if Holder wouldn't show up? Her cooperation wasn't necessary.

And finally, if there were legitimate pictures to be believed, don't you think the original judge would have given him a slightly more stiff punishment than a 60 day suspended sentence and 18 months probation? That sentence screams "I don't think you actually did anything but I gotta punish you somehow for appearances". That's a slap on the wrist for a supposed dangerous, violent woman beater.

I'm sorry, I don't believe for an instant that he or anyone in that room harmed her. There's just way too much evidence to the contrary.

You're referring to that guy we cut last year?

big difference between getting about four or five chances and getting let go after the first (false) allegation against you.

Sorry, while domestic violence is very bad, unless a player is involved in murder or child molestation or anything of that nature then winning should take precedent over anything else and that has always been my opinion

 

Wrong answer.  The correct answer was "Hardy didn't do anything, so THAT's why the team should have had his back instead of turning theirs and THAT's why JR is wrong here."  If there was a glimmer of a chance that he hit that woman, I wouldn't want him back here either.

 

Plenty of us were talking about Strong in the 1st before the combine. 

And my last one for now, think I went with the buffalobillsdraftsite board.  Wasn't quite as satisfied with this one as the other two, mainly because I had to wait til the 3rd to get a WR.  The value was better on Peat in the 1st (was between him and Strong and though I love Strong as a prospect, protecting Cam is more important than giving him more weapons) and the value at WR in the 2nd just wasn't there.  Greene is a fine prospect for the 3rd round, so I'd feel pretty good about this draft.

 

 

For my second run I wanted to see how the chips would fall if I went WR in the first.  Used Draftek's board this time.  Had to make a difficult call in the 3rd when Ameer Abdullah and Ogbuehi were both available.  Went with my head instead of my heart.  Also, despite potentially causing a logjam at WR I just couldn't pass up Hardy in the 4th.

 

 

Another draft I'd be exceptionally pleased with.  Right after I made the last pick I saw Jordan Hicks, OLB from Texas was still available, I would have picked him if I noticed.  Not a big deal either way.

First one of these in a few weeks, I use fanspeak's on the clock with the composite big board.  There was some silliness, like Breshad Perriman being available in the 4th and DJ Humphries available in the 6th but overall it was alright:

 

 

Now I know there's no way as long as JR owns this team will we take a chance on a guy like DGB, but holy poo this would be an awesome draft. 

Offer next years 3rd round pick, move up in 2nd to take gurley. Possibly receive a 3rd round comp pick next year for hardy.

like the structure of the idea, but not for Gurley. For jake fisher or Ameer Abdullah