JawnyBlaze

We've been linked to both Gurley and Tevin Coleman recently. Sure looks like we're taking a hard look at a RB early. Almost certainly not #25 early, but looks like a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round could certainly be in play.

I'm not against it. DeAngelo is gone now and this is very possibly Stewart's last season as a Panther too. You can't count on him staying healthy anyway. I'm not sure why RB as a need hasn't gotten more talk.

I've been talking Ameer Abdullah to anyone that'll listen

For the love of Christ these "past incidents" people keep making up kill me.

we will not be getting anything for because he only played one game which means, since he played so little we don't get compensation to replace that product because he only played 50 or 60 snaps last year.

how many snaps he played for us have nothing to do with the comp pick. How much he plays and gets paid by his new team determines the comp pick.

I had a feeling he was going to be a Cowboy. They need defensive help and are popular enough to weather the ignorant backlash that signing him could bring.

20 catches for how many first downs? He was clutch.

 

According to some other guy in this or another thread, can't remember where exactly, he had 15 catches for 12 first downs.  Clutch?  Eh, if we're using the term liberally.  Clutch to me requires some knowledge of the situation in which the plays were made.  And I certainly don't remember how many of his 12 first downs were in critical situations.  I do remember one or two that helped extend important drives in games.  I think those passes could have easily gone to Brown.  Brown was more clutch this past season, in my opinion.

 

edit:  Just noticed your avatar.  I'd say Bersin was about as clutch as the mustache on the guy's head in your avatar lol

Can he not play any other positions on special teams? I'm asking because I don't recall. I like the thought of strong and hardy though.

 

I'm sure he's capable, but he's not particularly fast, nor do I have any reason to believe he's a skilled tackler.  I mean, anyone CAN play special teams.  I'm sure Colin Cole COULD play ST.  Is there not someone that can do it better and serve other roles in a greater capacity is the question.

 

So then don't have him as a returner. I question the former special teams coach as it seemed NO ONE they could put back there could even field the damn ball. Made no sense to me.

 

But there's the second part to what I said.  He doesn't offer enough upside or value as a WR to justify a roster spot when he can't even contribute on ST.  He had a few catches, but surely we can find someone that can make 20 catches a season that can also contribute on ST.  And maybe even do something with the ball after they catch a pass...I'm not mad if we keep him on the team or anything, but I also don't see any legitimate reason to keep him.  I'd be thrilled if our WR corps is upgraded through the draft to look like:

 

KB

Jaelen Strong (or some other WR in the 1st)

Justin Hardy (or another speedy guy, or guy with great hands like Hardy's that has actual upside in the 3rd or 4th)

Brown

Cotchery

Ginn

 

We're not carrying more than 6 WRs, probably.  And if we only draft 1 WR this year, I could see us rolling with only 5 WRs on the roster with Webb or that App State kid as the WR/backup QB that's deactivated every game.

Was he even calling women bitches in his rapping?  I will admit (be proud of?) the fact I didn't listen to the whole "rap" but the line that got all the attention was "Kraken, bitch".  Sounds like the kind of line that was the gender-unspecific "bitch", not directed at women or a woman.  It's splitting hairs, I know, but it makes a little difference.

Good enough to beat out Tavares King and keep Stephen Hill on the practice squad.  And he made a few clutch first downs.  Most of the season he had reliable hands, which is why he was back there fielding punts (if you think it was for his return capability, you're an idiot).  Yes, he made a mistake in the playoffs, which has defined his entire season for a lot of people with short memories.  But all in all, he made the team against long odds, delivered when he was asked to (12 of his 15 catches were first downs), and had a pretty good year for a rookie UDFA.  

 

The numerous mistakes in the playoffs weren't his first time making mistakes fielding punts.  Or the second.  Or the third.  He was poor at it all season.  The one in the gif earlier in this thread was the MOST bone-headed of them, but he was bobbling punts and making other mistakes all season long.

 

Beating a child the way AP beat his is completely wrong and should be admonished. But that had nothing to do with Greg Hardy. AP abused a child. Greg Hardy was hoodwinked by an experienced manipulator of men. Completely unrelated.

"bad" as a WR?  nah, he had some good catches.  Get separation?  No.  Trustworthy as a punt returner?  Never.  Has enough upside as a WR to justify spending a roster spot on him, especially when he's a liability on special teams?  Not really.

Bucs signed Bruce carter. There had been some talk around here about him

I have no problem with the level of players he's targeting. Oher and Ginn are exactly the sort I'd want him bringing in. Not too many of these FAs this year are going to be worth what they're getting. Last year one of the few I thought were worth what they got was out of our price range, but you have to believe we'd go for him if last year were this year-Veldaheer. This year, the only thing Gettleman is doing that's pissing me off is not giving Hardy a chance. I would understand if the market for him is just too high, but to not even talk about it is beyond ludicrous.

It sort of sounds like he's a bit picky about what scheme he want to play in. It's obviously his right to do so though.

Or, just playing devils advocate, maybe we're being picky about whether he'll fit in our scheme and trying to determine from him if he'll be a good fit. Either way is possible.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/52683/309/2015-free-agency-forecast

scroll down to #19

I'm more interested in #6

The Titans blue is closer to Carolina blue than ours, but interesting to mention the word Carolina at all....interesting indeed.

lol all these tweets from random people saying Cam's in trouble now, those people must not have watched a single down of Panther football last year.  Injured Oher is still better than healthy Bell.  Oher could be on IR and still be an upgrade over Bell.  It was a good move and for a 2 year deal, it couldn't have been much money.  Great signing.  Doesn't settle the problem of our OTs, but will help.  And like someone else said, helps our hands not to be forced in the draft.

Consensus on Bills message board is "Why didn't we trade for Foles instead?!"  They seem ok with losing Kiko since he tore his ACL early and they were fine without him, and therer's chatter he wanted out of Buffalo anyway

 

lol at wanting Foles over McCoy...

 

Really interesting.  Alonso is a really good LB (at least he was his rookie year, then he got hurt.  don't know what he's been like since then).  Quite possibly a good trade for all parties.  You never see player for player trades.  Hopefully this might help them happen more often.

Cam shoulda known what he was getting himself into.  All we need to do now is franchise tag him next year, then the shooter from the club accuses Cam of assault and Cam gets put on the exempt list for all but one game and we can go back to being a squeaky clean franchise. 

Publicly.

and telling someone who writes for a website about your team knowing full well they would write about it isn't making it public? I don't believe Voth got his speculation from Gettleman. I believe he got it from someone with the organization who believes they have their finger on Gettleman's pulse, and I don't doubt it's the likely outcome, but I also don't believe it's a done deal or even remotely close to official.

It's not speculation when the decision makers on Hardy tell you flat out he won't be here. At that point, its reporting. 

 

Nowhere in that article did it say that decision makers on Hardy told him flat out he won't be here.  You're speculating that it was a decision maker.

 

Who cares where Hardy goes?  I believe we can handle Hardy if he lands in the NFCS. 

 

I don't.  I fear Hardy hitting Cam cleanly and brutally like he did Palmer a couple years ago.  Outside of a miracle, whoever is out LT next year would get destroyed by Hardy.

 

I agree why so much doubt on Voth? He's credible in my book.

 

It's not so much doubt on Voth, no question he's been solid for the past year.  It's just that nobody knows and it's still nothing more than spectulation.  Speculation from Voth, speculation from whoever his source is on the team (if Gettleman is giving out info like this at this juncture, he's doing it wrong...and even if the info DID come from Gettleman, anything's possible.  Something could change between now and March 10-when Hardy would actually OFFICIALLY be gone), and speculation from people on this forum.  Few of us will deny that the chances of him staying are remote at best, but people passing off speculation as official new is misleading.

Yea, I'm not seeing the official part...