JawnyBlaze

58 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The poll is different than the question.  The poll is what we expect him to do, and the question is what would it take for me to have faith in him.

I think he will look better but not great.  For me to have faith in him moving forward he would have to look like a number 1 overall pick.  Basically we would have to win games because of him and not in spite of him.

Glad I wasn’t the only one that noticed heh. For the title, he’d need to show great improvement, specifically and decision making, throwing guys open and in stride, and being able to hit the broad side of a barn from more than 10 yards away. 

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

I think he can do screens well, the blocking was horrible and it would get blown up before it got started.  The clips that had good blocking he did well on 

If he can get the corner he has the jets for it, but he doesn’t have quick change of direction for getting around people if they get to the backfield

XL has great hands, that’s what I learned. Almost all the deep passes that were in his vicinity were caught. Screen passes aren’t his forte though. He needs to be fed crossing routes and deep shots. He’s deadly on those crossing routes if he’s hit in stride…hope Young learns to do that. 

Cool video. Would watch one for each of our trades heh. With that said, I kinda wish we hadn’t made that trade. I forget who it was but someone went between 65 and 72 I had wanted. Frazier or Colson, someone like that. 
 

Edit: it was Colson, went 69

Obviously drafts can’t be evaluated for a few years before you know what you got, but just going off what we know right now anyone hating on this draft is either ignorant or willfully miserable. The big complaints defending Bryce (a lot of it in the media, the same people shitting on our draft) were that our OL sucked and Bryce didn’t have any weapons. We heavily invested in the OL in FA, brought in a separation machine via trade, and spent this draft plugging every conceivable hole in the weapons for Bryce. I get if you wanted McConkey or someone other than XL, but we already have McConkey’s role on the team. We didn’t have a XL role and he’s inarguably the highest potential of anyone in the draft at his role. Whining about one year of production ignoring the factors that lead to it is the definition of ignorance.  Even if you preferred a different WR, the worst you could give that pick is a B.  Surrounding a young QB with weapons is how everyone agrees it should be done, so doing that rather than backfilling depth spots at CB or edge is not a poor strategy. We got at least three guys that should be starting before the end of the year, maybe four depending on the LB we took in the 3rd. Our LB position was weaker than CB or edge rusher. 

2 hours ago, jfra78 said:

How do you know this?

He doesn’t. Just doing that social media thing where you throw out wild claims that others will repeat because they share your agenda until it becomes accepted as true. 

His poor run game last year is being used against him but look at the Bucs’ RBs. They’re dookie. Maybe getting a stud (even if he needs to be eased back into a full load at first) will be what makes it work. Bryce doesn’t have the accuracy for DEEP shots, but will some coaching and lots of work ge might be able to get 25-30 yarders in the vicinity of XL. Should be good enough.
 

Let’s wait and see how Canales works with an offense he had a hand in loading before getting too critical.  I don’t give too much credit for “turning Baker around” (he was never as bad as the media would want you to believe, they decided they weren’t going to like him from the jump like with Cam) and I’m not going to lambast him for having a bad run game or whatever. What’s important is that he’s a good HC, and how he did as a coordinator doesn’t have a 1:1 correlation with that. 

1 hour ago, CPF4LIFE said:

A lot of people didn't want Cam either. 

I’m not one of those people. 

- Mitchell or Legette, I’m still not sure who I like better.  Originally I liked McConkey here as much as the other two, but we gotta get someone to stretch defenses and make them respect the possibility of a floating duck getting snatched.

- Frazier, but I’m plenty pleased with Brooks.

- Originally I would have said P. Wilson, but after hearing he has no ACL and a botched shoulder surgery nah hard pass on that mess.  Wouldn’t have traded back from 65 and would have taken Colson. 

- Sanders definitely

- dunno about the rest 

It’s not unlikely we’ll take a QB but as of right now I don’t want sanders. 

18 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I've always appreciated this guys takes.  He's a big fan of Legette and is starting to convince me otherwise of our direction at receiver (linked to Panthers timestamp):

 

I’m very curious to see his reactions to our first picks on the next two days. 

1 hour ago, Panthro said:

I’ve seen other places that had him as a top 75 player and the potential to be an elite nfl lb

That guy’s ranking must have been old. Everything I found after we made the pick says day two guy or specifically third round. We took him where his value was. 

Bet that didn’t turn out how you thought it would. 

2 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

You must not be enjoying this.

I’m enjoying it. I would have preferred Wilson with our 3rd, but such is life. 

11 minutes ago, csx said:

Has nobody told you where players come from?

He thinks a stork delivers them. 

Hm. Right position but not the player I wanted lol. I’ll reserve judgement, don’t know anything about this guy.  

There goes one of the ILBs I wanted. Hope Wilson lasts two more picks

Agreed. We’ll have to see how they perform, but all the maneuvering has still gotten us premium talent and picked up a 2nd next year. I’m pleased. 

I will admit I kinda wanted Trey Benson for selfish reasons. He has the same last name as me lol, coulda got a non-customized jersey with my name on it. Not common with this last name heh

Just now, ProcessBlue2 said:

Goddamn Dan Morgan is the Marty Hurney of Scott Fitterers

1 minute ago, w280sax said:

Got 5th rd pick back (156 overall) to move from 65 to 72

Eh, a fifth instead of a fourth. Not bad I guess. 

Waiting to hear compensation. 7 spots. I’m expecting a 4th. 

Just now, jasonluckydog said:

We are going TE, if he is not available we will trade down.

I’m good with TE, C, or LB. Or even CB

8 picks til our next one and two of the three LB I wanted are still available. 

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

We are the worst team in the NFL.  That factors for me.  

if we were trying to get over the hump….someone mentioned teams like Buffalo, SF, etc investing in a RB.  I think it changes things if you are in a position to just find a missing piece to a puzzle almost put together 

plus he just blew his knee out.  Don’t even know if he will be ready come camp time.  That’s just not going to get people that aren’t big on RBs early to change that mindset just because Carolina did it l.  Think in this particular draft….3rd round was the earliest I would have liked it and that’s early.  So I’m just staying true to what I said leading up to the draft  

I’m just saying, I get the argument to not take a RB top half of the 1st. Taking one in the second isn’t a problem, especially when you’ve addressed most of your other needs and need to put weapons around your flailing young QB