JawnyBlaze

Stroud made the situation work, not the other way around. You say 50/50 but it seemed from my Stroud side to be more like 70/30 on team Bryce before the draft and it was obvious to me then just as much as now the difference in talent between the two. I hope Bryce works out since we ended up making the mistake I feared, but he was a large part of the problem last year, not the victim. It’s possible he can improve, I’m in the minority in that I don’t think his size is the biggest problem. His lack of arm strength is a problem but that can be worked around. His biggest problem is accuracy (among the worst I’ve ever seen) and terrible/slow decision making, which is ironic given the hype that preceded the draft. 

5 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Morgan had experience in Buffalo as well  let’s not discount that

as far as his time with fitterer, sometimes learning ‘what not to do’ is just as valuable as what to do.  I’d say he has been exposed to both. 

He has a losing poker hand that he is trying to turn into at least a draw over the next 3 years, and even to hit on the 3 years, the draft picks, free agents, and Young have to pan out 

of all his moves, the only one that bothered me was Luvu…he did try hard enough in my opinion 

I don’t know what to expect.  I know improving that online was a have to…Corbett to center, no……but the draft comes 

I do believe, also, both Morgan and Canales will have little tolerance for underperforming…be that players or coaches or Bryce Young. 
 

my expectation is they will look like a overhauled team, playing better to the end of the season than the start 

5 wins and the ability to score 3 to 4 TDs a game is the high water mark for 2024

Yea, same, but I imagine he tried hard enough within reason. It’s very possible Luvu just wanted to move on, he had seen enough of this poo show and wanted to play in a defense that catered more to his skills which will lead to a bigger payday. I don’t blame him, and I don’t blame Morgan for not giving him a crazy contract. 

1 hour ago, WhoKnows said:

After the first draft, people were lauding Fitterer. I’m waiting a bit to laud Morgan for getting bent over on the Burns trade value after taking so long that we looked desperate to take any offer.

I’m slowing my roll until the draft. Two guards and Diontae aren’t making us contenders. The draft (the next 2-3) is the only way we get back to the playoffs.

Morgan didn’t wait so long on the Burns trade that he got bent over. If he did the trade the day he was promoted to GM he wouldn’t have had any more leverage than he did when he traded him. Once Fitterer declined the Rams’ offer, all the leverage was in Burns’ hands and everyone knew it. 

Great work, but we’re still putting in work in FA. Mike Williams signs here, changes a lot. Clowney/Young sign here, changes a bit. Still, don’t wanna take anything away. Great predictive analysis. 

2 minutes ago, Panthro said:

I’m practically sure you don’t know what practically means

I literally know what practically means and nothing is practically or basically a different round than it actually is.  #33 has been passed by practically every team like any other second round pick. It gets no fifth year option like literally every other second round pick.  I was just being smarmy because this “practically/basically a first round pick” rhetoric pops up every year and it’s dumb.  There’s a much bigger difference between pick 32 and 33 than there is 33 and 34 (just to emphasize the gap between 33 and a first round pick).

11 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Has social media likes and follows ever lead to a signing? Not being a smart ass, actually curious. Where there is delusion, there is hope. 

I’m sure the law of probability means it’s happened at some point but Ive never bought into this kind of speculation and dot connecting. 

2 hours ago, Panthro said:

But at 33 that’s practically a 1st

itd take multiple picks to move off 33

It’s not practically a 1st, it’s practically the first pick of the second round. If it was a team that typically picks at the end of the first then yea I’d need multiple picks. If it’s the bears, jags, cards, teams like that I’d probably be satisfied with just the first. 

4 hours ago, SCO96 said:

Maybe I'm in the minority here. But, if I were a GM, there is NO WAY I'd trade away a 1st round pick in next year's draft class for a 2nd round pick in the current year. That's the type of deal Marty Hurney would make and have all of us ready to throw shoes at the television on draft night.

We didn't have 1st round selections in 2009 or 2010. Hurney was so desperate to get "his guy" that he would trade away a first in future years to nab a JAG in the 2nd round of the present draft. I seem to recall us doing that one year to move up to select the great "Everette Brown" at DE in 2009. We also didn't have a pick in 2010 until #48 when we chose Jimmy Clausen. We had traded away our round 1 pick in 2010 prior to the draft night.

The scenario you laid out is might work if you were dealing with an inept GM (i.e. Hurney). No one with a rational mind would consider such a move unless the GM realized team roster was so stacked that a #1 pick might not be able to crack the starting lineup for some time. Then, I could see trading down a bit to pick up some additional choices to build solid depth at each position. Other than that, use those picks to get the best player. You can never have too much talent on a football team.

Next year’s first for this year’s second is typical and has happened many times.

1 hour ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Better hope Baby Bryce works out. Next years class is supposed to be cheeks. One channel has the first QB off the board next year at 50. Of course there could be a break out year by someone but not a glowing outlook so far.

There always is

Bryce has got quite a few more years on his rookie contract. Herbert for Young will help their cap a lot!

Two firsts next year would be mighty useful for getting our new QB next year and if we suck bad enough we can use our own to get him then that extra first can be a first round playmaker for the new QB rather than a second round one this year. 

Wouldn’t be interested in trading down just pick up some later picks. I would be willing to trade 33 for next year’s 1st and since it’s the first pick of the second round we could probably get more. This year’s 3rd or 4th plus next year’s 1st maybe. 

Or even better, trick the Bears into thinking there’s a lemon law and we get back all our picks and Moore

Trade Bryce to the Bears for our #1 back

44 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

That is right--the difference is about $18m.  So we get this guy and an elite Right guard for about what we would have paid disgruntled Peter Parker

That’s a difference of about $23m a year. Burns got 30, we gave Wonnum about 7. Much better value. We got Wonnum, elite RG Hunt and $3m space for Burns cost. 

Dunno who Luke Combs is, but he sounds like a casual fan. “There were 20 other guys” sounds like someone who thinks that being the best coordinator means he’ll be the best coach. That’s a casual take if I ever heard it. And being a fan for a long time doesn’t mean he’s not casual. I’ve been a casual UNC fan for over 35 years, because my family are all UNC fans

1 minute ago, t96 said:

Donte

I mean, Donte and Dante are the same name just spelled different. Like Jonathan and Johnathan. 

One T away from the same name as the CB we traded away lol

Nah. Probably not keeping 7 receivers. Same plan but minus Brown.  That’s our 6. Use the money on defense, maybe a TE. I dunno what’s available. 

Yea no, use our picks.  No trading back for just some warm bodies. We have players, we need more good players. 

5 hours ago, Captroop said:

Captroop and Sydney Sweeney!!!

 

There has been some talk, mainly by Captroop himself, about Sydney Sweeney being a total smokeshow. This has led some to make dubious connections between the Huddle's cat poop, and arguably the most marketable actress in Hollywood at the moment.

Sources say that Captroop has never actually talked to Sydney Sweeney, has no ability to do so, is married, and his wife is vehemently against the idea of polyamory.

 

So yeah. Pretty much no connection or anything worth reporting. Carry on.

Sydney Sweeney is so incredibly hot. 

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Yeah I saw that but I think he's on borrowed time. At least I hope he not in the long term plans. 

I would assume we take one in the 2nd if a stud is available this year, if not they’ll be looking at one next year after assessing Corbett this year. 

45 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

What do you know about long-term plans at center?

It was reported that Corbett is moving in to C. Dunno if that was rock solid, but it’s all I’ve seen so far. 

Insider? We’ve only had one or two of those throughout the years here. I forget their name but there was someone dropping nuggets here the past couple years that turned out to actually be reliable. 

Good signing. Our DL is gonna be nasty and make it easier for the less than star studded pass rushing group.