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11 minutes ago, 96Bravo said:

That is very true. I also forgot to mention, Corral is also downright deceitful with his play-action. Often fooling the camera. 

He's a EZ fade route savant he swished two in a practice and nobody else could. Great release and zip. They forgot about Matt Corral the player.

That's ok. He's had a year, training, eating, studying, lifting at Panthers HQ.

That playbook would be the same for both.

AR vs Corral would be a very pleasing competition to watch.

Again, it's draft time. The smoke is being blown away from the battlefield. BY ain't it.

Call Houston and make a deal for CJ. We get AR at #2 plus recoup a pick or two.

Corral would outshine BY in camp because he's a true NFL dual threat. He runs with his blockers, he's not a scrambler, he has McCaffrey style running ability and awareness.

He couldn't be here if BY was the pick, but AGAIN that would be coddling.

4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

If you think Corral is a great golden lion and Young will get hurt then you should want Young. His certain injury will give Corral a chance to show what he can do. In fact is Young is so average, Corral should crush him in training camp right?

What's best for the team is what I said above, totally sidestepping everybody's Bryce Young bluff. 

He's dropping. It's all hype. His stats don't even measure up to Tua or Corral and in comparison Corral is a prolific ground threat while Young will need constant and vigilant protection.

Before you take Young, take AR. Make a deal for Stroud with Houston and be done with this foolishness.

1 minute ago, Mage said:

Tua's Bama teams were at another level when it comes to offensive talent compared to Bryce.  Tua in 2018/2019 had Damien Harris, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris, Ruggs, Waddle, DeVonta, and Jeudy.  Bryce played with some great guys too but not nearly as stacked as what Tua or even Mac Jones had.

Personally Bryce's playmaking ability gives him a big advantage over Tua for me as a prospect.  

 

How come Bryce doesn't have better stats than Tua, or Corral and we're supposed to accept a smaller player who can't rush like Corral, or AR, or Levis?

Yes the media would love a bottom feeder like the Jets to make a foolish move like Zach Wilson so they can laugh later.

Major f' up if the Panthers take this guy #1. Bad judgement. Totally ignoring the advantages of the others to fall into media love with the tiniest ever to do it. The best sports agents will do that for ya.

Setting you, the team up for failure, Zach Wilson style.

Looks like Young Lion been in that Panthers weight room and cafeteria.

Looks like a good 6'2" 220lbs+ to me...

Just now, rodeo said:

Tua weighs more than Matt Corral so if being small causes concussions then we're fuged either way

Lol

Fhules Gold.

9 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Corral won't play a snap for the Panthers outside of the preseason unless there's a catastrophe and the 2 QBs on the roster ahead of him are injured.

Tua was a better player than Bryce coming out of Alabama and he's much smaller and thinner, Corral IF (dummy's)Young is the pick IS one play away every game. In that situation with the smallest, thinnest QB in the league he better damn sure be ready. 

Corral is  a better player than Bryce anyways statistically and physically for NFL football. Hype train victim again? As is here as is the tinderbox.

Tua was a better player out of Alabama than Bryce and he's had a tough time physically.

Don't believe the hype. Stats and the truth don't lie like the fake news.

33 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Never liked WIlson, in fact I didn't think he would be that good (shoulder injury only one good year against lesser competition). I was team Fields who still has a lot to prove.  If you want an easy target, I thought Willis would have shown more potential that he has with the Titans.  I knew he would need a year or two, but they appear ready to move on from him.  This year I prefer Stroud, but I can understand the hype/interest for Young and AR as well.  

Him and DJ will be epic. Da Bears haven't had a receiver of his caliber since Willie Gault. If they continue to add receivers and TEs worth a damn Fields will rise again. I'm a legacy Bears fan and although I was mad when the Panthers passed on Fields, I was happy the Bears finally got a QB that might be worth a damn. 

I was lucky when I moved to Charlotte and the Panthers, my baby, was born before my eyes and came out kicking ass.

I'd prefer a spicy draft after all this debating the best ordinary. Stroud is the most likely most safe, least risk player at QB.

Y'all made me wanna go all out AR-15 with this leprechaun talk. Let's swing for the fences.

Young is an overachiever. That's hard to keep going.

AR, Levis, total physical freaks with dual threat upside for both, good open field runners, strong, able to punish weak attempts of tackling.

Doesn't even have a better completion percentage than Corral. How do you jokers think he's better?

Alabama had a season where he gets 547 attempts but STILL has a lower completion percentage than Corral?

You guys...

Processing speed, average arm doesn't equal Payton Manning.

13 hours ago, Martin said:

I usually say I love you enthusiasm, but I think you would benefit from slowing down a bit, Corral is nor better than Young, that is a bit crazy even for you.

Side by side no comparison. For those wearing magnifying glasses somehow 5'10" , no speed, no strength, average arm and short equals a number one pick.

He doesn't measure up well to Matt Corral, compare stats, percentages, rushing yards, or lack of rushing yards in Young's case.

You guys suck at picks.

Jimmy is a Zach Wilson guy too I believe. Keep up the good work guys.

13 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I love him taking credit for Parsons who was considered the top defender in his draft. 

We picked Horn instead. I wanted Parsons with Trask in the second.

55 minutes ago, Martin said:

I think the talk about his failures against Michigan are a big overblown. Those games were decided by the run game as in Michigan ran wild and the Ohio State defense couldn’t stop anything. Could he have done more? for sure, but to put it squarely on him is a stretch.

Did you know that Bryce Young only had two games in 2022 where the opponent scored more than 30 points, and lost both…

They talk about a season with abnormally high attempts like it was Bryce's proof of NFL prowess they want to elevate ATTEMPTS over completion percentage. 

Done with Bryce talk, compared his stats to Matt Corral, passing, rushing and YOUNGSTER comes up short again!

Fhules Gold.

Not a Panther

One dimensional, small. Facts. It's draft time. Leprechauns and rainbows are called Lucky Charms not football.

Just now, rodeo said:

do you think the Heisman voters read the numbers

I'm just comparing and contrasting and it's eye opening. 

Bryce doesn't have anything over Corral. We need a player that can at least push Corral.

If Bryce comes in, those stats plus Corral having a year in the NFL, in a fair competition may very well lead to a thrashing and trade show on the part of Matt Corral. Not good.

Young isn't a dual threat like Corral. At least Richardson and Levis are.

7 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Woulda coulda shoulda..

Im tired of this new analytics where if this would have happened BS.. 

 

Reality Check

It didn’t happen… 

Corral  got hurt a lot which is another reason he isn’t close to Young.. 

No matter what mind gymnastics you do it will never convince a sane person that Corral numbers are even close to Young’s.. We have eyes we can read numbers..

Read the damn numbers then. I gave them to you.

If it takes you 40 shots in basketball to get 15pts and the player your guarding puts up 25 how good are you.

That same coach would have done better with Matt Corral getting him 1+ yd per pass play PLUS 4yrds per carry.

Numbers and logic destroy the Youngster Fhules gold.

Not a #1 pick. Sorry.

Look at the difference in rushing yards between Matt Corral and Bryce Young...

Bryce ain't so special on that stat sheet in comparison. Corral was at Ole Miss, not Alabama.

He may be a good NFL QB but not worth a #1. He's not even better than Matt Corral.

3 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Bs excuse.. You said stats were equal.. They are not.. Then comes the caveat to your statement.. Which is complete BS.. Even last season was better then anything Corral did.. And that was a down year for him with less weaponary surrounding him… smh

You want to overlook raw percentage in favor of attempts.

Statistically given the same attempts Corral would have better numbers. Corral is getting 1+ yards more per play.

If Corral is GARBAGE Youngster is porridge in the pot 9 days old.

You guys can't use inflated attempts to hype a sub par NFL product.