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When you have so many needs, every move looks good. its called desperation. our cap is screwed, we are still paying money to players no longer and coaches no longer on the team. 

If Bryce comes out and goes 0-3 expect him to see the bench early this year.

Na, its like flipping a coin and it lands heads 3 times in a row and you say tails, then you say tails and it lands on heads. Tepper is going to give the reigns to the wrong person then take it away from the right person. He can never get it right. He gave the reigns to Rhule and failed then took the reigns from Frank and got his QB and failed. Now he is giving the reigns to someone who has never been a head coach again. You cant make this stuff up

Stroud wouldve definitely look better. The inability to stretch the field kept defense stacking the box with no running game and pressing receivers. We want to say the Oline wasnt good but was it really that? When most of the plays are designed to get the ball out quick and defenses are playing tight, the play is called for Bryce to get rid of the ball not Oline holding forever for him to improvise. And then Bryce was throwing pick 6s early in the year a became scared to throw it because teams were lurking underneath. We had too many flaws because of his inability to throw past 20 yards.

Wins

I was mocked for saying CJ over Bryce. One of my biggest reasons for this was because CJ made Olave better, Marvin Harrison Jr better, and smith-njigba better. He has proven to make receivers better because he is accurate. Thats what you want out a QB. Who did Bryce make look good at receiver? I dont care about precessing, I care about results and results were CJ was the better QB.

vipbox here i come

1 minute ago, heel31ok said:

Unless it's russell

Russell had size, more mobile and strength. Drew Brees didnt have the strength really but developed throwing deep by throw way ahead of time. But most Brees throws were short and fast. Got the ball out quick and rarely got hit.

14 minutes ago, rayzor said:

No one thought he would fail this miserably and in this way and if you say you knew it you're a liar.

The issue most has was he was too small and would get hurt part way through the season.

No one expected this level of ineptitude. No one.

Dude I wont lie, I knew this year would be. I was hoping to be proved wrong. But I didnt see nothing but a weak arm during his pro day. He missed the long throws on a couple of passes and the arch on them showed he didnt have arm strength. Then when I looked at our previous year and how the Oline performed, I saw this coming. Teams not respecting anything beyond 20 to 30 yards and blitzing alot because he was too small and the Oline wouldnt hold. I said this during draft and it was inevitable.

35 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Opposite of Cam. Thought he’d be a Drew Brees type.

This was why I may not have liked it but Sean Payton wouldve been the best fit because he knows how to operate a system with a smaller QB.

Never believed in him only hoped and now thats gone. 2 straights games of 0 points is beyond horrible. Everything but the defense needs to be cut. I cant fault the defense when your out there 3 quarters out the 4 and playing for absolutely nothing. But unfortunately key players will get traded.

Bryce never was it. We knew this before draft. He was undersized, lack of arm strength and didnt have the arm talent to be a #1 draft pick. He will be the most overhyped QB of all time (worse then Jamarcus Russell). Only thing he is good at is dinking and dunking. He is average at best at that. Now that hindsight has appeared, we are way to screwed to make anything happen unless we trade Burns, Chinn or Brown for some picks. We will have to be very active in FA this off season. But this will take 3 to 4 years to recover from.

season is over. This has been worse than the Pickles (Jimmy Clausen) era. We have absolutely nothing to play for. No draft position and honestly at this point I hope Baker does win just to rub it in Teppers face of all the bad moves he and this orrganization has made. Love my team but hate the front office. And yes you can love something and still be pissed at it at the same time.

Tepper officially has lost control of himself, the team and no longer should be in any leadership role. This is disgraceful.

11 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

He duped a bunch of yall too.  Can't count the number of times I read "if he was 6'2" no one would doubt him as #1"

I was telling people this for soo long. He isnt what you think he is. He made none of his receivers elite. Didnt have a strong arm at the  pro day. He missed 3 long passes. He isnt accurate with the long ball. We were fools. I wasnt fooled but the FO was absolutely stupid.

1 hour ago, Lame Duck said:

Everyone did… Every NFL model flagged him but some how Mr analytics just lacked analytics.

I didnt. I knew he wasnt it and wanted Stroud the whole time. I knew Bryces limitations and that it wouldnt work. 

I agree with the OP for this single reason alone and I think I see the OP angle on this. Sean Payton got Drew Brees (fairly undersized QB) and designed a system that fit his abilities and allowed him to get the ball out quick. We have a good accurate QB who is somewhat the same. So I dont think its about Sean Payton the person but about the scheme. If we could find a coach with a similar scheme and mindset whose name isnt Sean Payton would be ideal

We can love Bryce all we want to but he isnt a NFL QB. It will take years for him to get build to throw deep because of his stature. As for the Teppers, they are horrible. Every decision they have made has lead to 0 progress for this team. 

1 minute ago, jopie87 said:

Who is more relieved when he is let go, the fan base or Frank? I'm guessing Frank.

He has to be. You give him a QB with 2 handicaps. Height and a noodle arm. I can count on my hand how many times we have thrown it more than 20 yds this season. Defenses are pressing and not even worried about anything more than 20 yards.

Honestly, if I was Reich, Id be like get me out this place fast. You'd do me a favor firing me. Panthers organization is a mess. And no reason to look further than Tepper. We've had losing seasons since he came.

55 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

So glad I’m not renewing my PSL seats

 

 thanks Dave

I've been saying this all along. It was nothing but smoke that Reich and McCown wanted him. Tepper and his Nicole wanted him. He passed the nice boy test and had all the smarts. Sorry Dave, nice boy and having smarts isnt what gets you far in the NFL. You have to have skill and build and be highly proficient at your position. Bryce never showed that in college. Reich knew this and McCown. 

We should've analyzed the past 3 drafts like this. What position do we need first? How well do they play their position. for QB its how well can they throw the ball (accuracy, velocity)? This alone was our answer and it was Stroud. He had made Olave look great, Harrison Jr look great because his accuracy. Now he is making Tank dell look great. 3 years ago I wanted Micah Parsons. Dude was elite (freak athlete) and I said he would bring back the Luke style defense. We went with Jaycee Cant stay on the field Horn. I was actually ok with Ickey although he is having a sophomore slump. I think he will prove himself year 3.

20 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I’m not ready to say his physical limitations will prevent him from being great. However I certainly don’t fault anyone who does. I’m with Olsen on how it’s impossible to properly evaluate him in this offense. I’ve seen some plays where he zips it, but others where is kind of lofts it. I don’t know if it’s a confidence thing or rushing his fundamentals but something is definitely off more so in these past couple games.

Its a speed thing. He did that in college but players in the  nfl are faster. 2 things. He got thrown in a buzzsaw of a organization and he isnt as good as people thought he would be.

On 11/19/2023 at 7:30 PM, electro's horse said:

I keep thinking of that clip of tepper meeting Bryce at the door of the locker room after the Houston win. 
 

he looked like he felt so goddamn vindicated. 
 

so obviously his pick. 

That was Everos doing for that win

We have to remember during the offseason, Tepper got fined for letting Nicole be part of decision making for the organization. This has Teppers all over it. Boss always rules and if you go against them you dont get paid