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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

There's a world they could have traded 3x and still be in the top 10 

 

Down to 2. Then to 5 then to 9. God knows what draft capital that would have netted.  The bears panicked for some reason 

Yep. We actually did really well giving up what we did to have our choice of the QBs. It hurts giving up the haul we did and initially I didn’t really like it, but I’ve definitely come around. Bears lost a ton of value. Could have probably doubled their war chest and just threw that opportunity away.

2 minutes ago, Lurk21 said:

I had that thought sentiment  too until I wondered I Indy got involved. All it takes is for a leak of Indy wanting to move up to 1 and Houston trying to block that. Apparently  Indy called Chicago  too and offered Pittman n etc. Houston has to have their head on the swivel. This is why the Chicago GM said we wanted to control the draft. 

That’s the only way it’s possible but I think that still doesn’t work out logically. Because Houston would know we aren’t going to drop that many spots and miss out on a QB. Unless we had Levis has out top prospect, trading with Indy could mean we miss out on Young, Stroud AND Richardson. 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Chicago gm really fuged up and could have gotten way more value for #1

Yep. They could have probably gotten #2 and #12 from Houston to move up to #1 to stop a team like us from leaping then and then traded #2 to us and still gotten DJ out of the deal. 
 

But now it just doesn’t make sense for Houston to trade with us. They either get their guy or they don’t. If we want who they want then we aren’t trading. And if we don’t then they know they get their guy anyway.

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

We wouldn’t do it if we thought Young had a much better chance at being a franchise QB than Stroud/AR. We would only do it if they were closely valued by our staff.

I just think it’s an illogical move for Chicago to make. If we truly have BY as the best QB in the draft, even marginally so, it’s unwise for us to pass up on him to add an extra pick. And if we don’t, then Chicago gets their guy anyway without giving up extra assets. There’s just no way it makes sense to do. It would be awesome but it just won’t happen.

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

I agree with all of this 

Well that’s why I feel there’s absolutely no chance this trade ever happens. It’s illogical for them to make. Because we are never trading the pick unless we know we still get our guy. And if they know that, then that means they still get their guy without giving up extra assets. We either love BY and would never trade out or we love someone else and they get BY anyway.

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If they thought young was a mahomes level talent they would 

Okay. But if we think Young is the best player in this draft then we are taking him. If we don’t then we are taking Stroud (or I guess possibly AR). Regardless, we wouldn’t trade away who we feel has the best shot at being a franchise QB for an extra 1st round pick. And if they know we are trading because we believe that they’ll take BY then they know we aren’t taking BY anyway. It just literally doesn’t make any sense lol

12 minutes ago, pantherj said:

If we don't take an OLB in the draft, and Luvu is too small for OLB, then we can suffer through YGM playing OLB. I really don't want that. REALLY.

I have been in the OLB/CB camp for awhile, but I’ve actually come around to prefer an elite LG if one falls to us at 39. We are drafting a QB (seemingly one with a small frame at this point) and the last time we were in this position we landed a league MVP. But we never properly protected him which hurt both his overall production and really killed his longevity. 
 

We aren’t far off from an fairly elite OL. Moton,Icky, Boze, Corbett… let’s just fill this thing out, dominate teams on the ground and keep this QB here for the next 15 years 

3 minutes ago, Tbe said:

That was just Rhule trolling us.

At least he trolled us with Icky and Cade. He was trash but this offensive line finally looks the part and will be a huge boost to a rookie QB

Some of the people that post on this site are just absolute douche bags. 
 

Here’s to hoping whoever we take is a stud and not bothering treating everyone that disagreed with my preference at QB like a total pos 

3 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

Injury risk is possible on every play at every position. I just prefer Stroud because I think he'll be a better player, in the end. But I still think, against all trends, that both CJ and BY are going to be successful QBs in the league. Both will need to adjust to the NFL though, but they've each got some excellent tools to do so. Not too long until we find out who we're hitching our wagon to.

I’m with you 100%. I think both will be good and I’ll be happy with whatever the staff decides, but I don’t really understand the “if Bryce was bigger he would be the undisputed #1” crowd. Even if they were the same size, Stroud is still more accurate and has a stronger arm. Those are pretty important attributes for the position and those are the reasons I want Stroud over Young.

But the honest truth is I’ll be perfectly happy with either because I think both could be franchise QBs. I just prefer the better arm to the better improvisation. 

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You obviously don't know me very well.

 

I been #SellOutForStroud all offseason.

 

Im fine with either of the 3 QB's honestly. Not sure why you coming for me I have nothing against Stroud my man.

Fair enough, but why is this sad then? Because the comment seems to imply it’s a pathetic attempt to elevate Stroud and while I can agree that the constant “Carolina is taking this QB” rumor posts everyday are getting annoying, this is actually a solid post diving into the guys character. I fail to see why this of all things is a bad post.

22 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yikes!

 

Never said OBJ is still a star and what the hell does OBJ have to do with my comment?

 

OBJ lives rent free in your head.smh

No he doesn’t. But you are putting down Stroud after praising that douche bag. And as I recall, I pointed out you were completely wrong about OBJ and you seemed to quietly disappear after calling me an idiot essentially.

All that is fine. But if you are going to poo on Stroud for sharing then I’ll gladly point out my only other encounter I’ve had with one of your terrible takes. 

6 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

lmao this is getting sad 

Says the guy who tried to tell me OBJ is still a star WR and no longer diva whilst he remains in FA weeks later.

Yeah… OBJ is totally awesome but this dude talking about his life in an interview is sad. Sure. 

4 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

I saw somewhere say that Bryce should be fine in the NFL because he wouldn’t  be taking as hard of hits in the NFL as he did in college because of how the nfl protects QBs. I just think that’s something to think about if your worried.

Well that just doesn’t really make sense. Everyone in the NFL is bigger and faster. Presumably they might do a better job of protecting him and not let him take as many hits but he will clearly get hit harder in the NFL. 
 

Even rules in place to protect the QB won’t overrule the size and speed of DEs, DTs, LBers and S in the NFL.

9 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

He was our most handsome player on the team.

 

I think Burns fills that role now.

Clearly it’s between Boze and Brown

Ah yes. Nothing like one of the most exciting off seasons in team history with an opportunity to land whichever of the two potential franchise QBs in this draft to turn everyone here into a bunch of dickheads. That’s the huddle for ya. 
 

We have two potentially star QBs in this draft with the #1 pick and the very one here is still managing to act miserable. 

41 minutes ago, top dawg said:

If TMJ doesn't end up as our WR1, then we have problems.

Does he have to end up as a WR1 this season? This is what I really don’t understand. I think some people are wanting WRs because it’s a sexy position without actually factoring what the teams needs are. WR is not a giant news right now. It was a month ago. But now it’s a pretty solid unit 

I’m perfectly happy with TMJ as our #3 which he is at this point. I know I’m in the minority here, but I don’t really even seen WR as a need right now. Yeah, Chark could be gone next season and Thielen isn’t getting any younger, but Chark, Thielen, TMJ, Laviska and Shi makes me feel there isn’t a ton of room for another WR. Certainly not in putting draft capital or significant cap space into. Next season? Sure. Right now? I think we need to sure up LB, DE, CB and even OL depth more than another WR

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well to be fair, he kinda was.

Even Tepper himself has admitted that he came into the NFL with some wrongheaded ideas. Those were what led to the Rhule hire which was then the source for most of the issues over the past three years.

The incorrect assumption was that he couldn't learn. He has, and now we seem to be headed in the right direction.

Sure, I’m not disagreeing with that, but rather the notion that it was permanent. I remember the posts pretty well. “We have the new Jerry Jones” and “this franchise is doomed, he’ll be moving it out of Charlotte soon anyway” etc. 

He had a poor start but it was his first time doing it. It was way too early and while I’m indifferent to Tepper as a person it did always look to me like he truly does want to win. Based on the way he assembled this current staff, suggesting there’s no limit on what he would pay to make sure we have the best coaches possible is reassuring. It’s just the permanent doom and gloom that had set in here that gets exhausting lol 

7 hours ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

The Panthers and Falcons lost by the same teams but in reverse order. This doesn't make us look any better since we are always had a losing record since 2015. So why keep bringing this up when Cam didn't go after the ball in the SB and fans were condemning him for part of the loss pretty much. You sound like a Saints fan now.

I like turtles

8 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

The coaching staff change was a correct championship move, but the roster building strategy for a team without any foundation/culture (if trading up for the #1 pick and taking a QB) has never proven to be successful in the NFL over 6 decades. Glad they have a couple 28+ proven receiving options to pair with any QB they choose. Going to need a top 10 defense for a few seasons at the least to cover for a young QB to even have a shot at the playoffs.

Someone always has to be first though for the fans who hang their hat on hope. Said the same thing for Gettleman, Rhule, and now Fitt. I like Reich, but with the roster building if it goes the way most people are cheering for, odds are a #1 pick QB will be the end for Reich and a second coaching staff will have to take the developed QB (if good) the rest of the way.

Should we just put everything on pause until we create a foundation/culture though?
 

You can only control the things you can control. Yeah, ideally it would be great if we were just a QB away from being SB contenders. But that’s rarely how the NFL works. You have to do the best with what you have to work with. I feel pretty confident in saying we have done a fantastic job of that this off season. 

40 minutes ago, Bluetooth said:

3 bold trades for the Carolina Panthers to secure DeAndre Hopkins in 2023 (catcrave.com)

also...After parting ways with four premium picks to move up, the Panthers will have to get creative in making a move for him. They can offer their third-round pick, No. 93 overall and wide receiver Terrace Marshall Jr. and see if the Cardinals bite.

Remember that's a Joe Brady guy...he flash but I rather take DHop with the No. 93, trade Shi to 49ers for a 5th, used that 5th and No.39 to go get Flowers...

DHop

DJ Chark

Thielen

Flowers

Shenault 

I’m just speaking logically. We aren’t going to invest that much into the position. It just isn’t going to happen. Sure it’s possible that we COULD do it,  but it’s not reality. 

37 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

What if the trade is TMJ and a 4th for Hopkins and Cards take some of the salary hit in 2023?

I don’t see giving up draft capital and a young WR we can hopefully develop into a starting WR for Hopkins. Would I be opposed to the trade? No. But I don’t think that’s how you build