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Maybe he needed to go, but I never liked the way he fired Rivera. Ron is the best coach in team history, he deserved more respect than that. I’ve never seen a whole roster in mourning after a coach got fired. They pretty much quit after Fewell took over and this franchise hasn’t had the same competitive spirit since, sans Wilks’ interim stretch last season. How they let Cam twist in the wind for Teddy Bridgewater was the last straw for me. 

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wish we were in a position to get this guy. We could slide Ickey to left guard and get back to having a dominant line

Oh yessir! Dude is a bigtime difference maker! I've only seen him beat once and it was a 15yd arc out and in where the QB ran right into it. Run, pass, dude is the whole package. 

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

**ahem**

you are forgetting 2 second rounders as well.

This is bordering on Vikings wanting H. Walker type incompetence!

The thing that angers me most about this franchise also killing my hope for the future is the current crop of draftees and how we are in no position to take advantage. We are in the era where players that we grew up watching and idolizing have children or family members that are about to go pro. We aren't in a position to draft or develop this talent and it is extremely disheartening. These athletes are born to past legends, around the game their whole life, love the game, and are meticulously prepared for the next level. Names like Harrison, Maye, and Manning come to mind. This year Drake Maye and likely Marvin Harrison Jr are coming out, but we have no 1st round pick. Drake Maye's father was a QB, he's 6'4" 225 and athletic, has two brothers that won National titles. Harrison is damn near 6'5", runs like a deer, and catches anything you throw at him. He was raised by a NFL HOF father, so you know he is meticulous about route running and making himself available for the QB as his father did for Peyton. It is similar to when we drafted CMC. Of course he ran routes and had better hands than any RB we'd seen maybe ever. These franchise changers are entering the league at a time when we are garbage and should have access to draft them, but we don't because of our meddling owner and trade happy moron of a GM! 

I don't know, but I feel we could've done like San Fran did in the late 2010 era and built our defense up with the draft picks we received while we sucked. As we continued to be garbage, we keep making the picks, and then boom the offensive guys would be there. Chicago has the potential to have Harrison, Moore, Maye if they don't decide to keep Fields, and the added haul of our draft picks by the end of the Spring. Imagine how much hope that would inspire no matter how moronic the owner. I don't know where to start looking for it here. 

On 12/12/2023 at 12:36 PM, Panthercougar68 said:

Do GMs historically get fired in season? The last one off the top of my head was Marty almost a decade ago.

My hope is he is only being kept around like Brown cause somebody has to make the play calls.

14 hours ago, KillerKat said:

Wake me when Dak wins more than 1 game in the playoffs. Every year is their year, yet they keep flaming out when it matters most.

Thanks for making this post as the reactions are largely being made because the QB play in the NFL is abysmal and the talking heads need people to tune in and fans are always somewhat delusional. Dak and the Cowboys have beaten on some bad teams and finally got the upperhand once on the Eagles. He has repeatedly played terrible in the playoffs when asked to win games! Their fans again are foaming at the mouth and coverage is geared towards that as the Cowboys are always the national coverage how terrible they are year to year. Brock Purdy when asked to win a game has been downright bad this year. Without his slew of weapons, he has been less than good and everybody was turning on him until they beat the Eagles and Deebo came back. We all seen Tua without Hill this year. They are game managers! The media has always hated Cam and fanbases hated him too. They brought back a clip from almost two weeks ago to move their slow news cycle. 

14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Technically that definition would put Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Joe Montana and others in the "game manager" category, but as Warner points out that really shouldn't be considered a slight.

I think a lot of West Coast guys get that label. I know two of the guys Newton named are in Shanahan style systems.

Nah, all of these three made plays when defenses were switched, players were hurt, and in different situations(i.e. coaches/systems). Cam took Ted Ginn to a championship appearance. I see what Warner is saying, because the hint of jealousy that everyone had when it came to Cam. yeah he was running 70yd touchdowns, throwing eighty yard bombs, and he did it with a terrible o-line, mediocre WR's, and a so-so coaching staff. So even his definition of game changer may be a bit high, but he's speaking from his bias of having to carry a team completely with little help his whole career. 

14 hours ago, frankw said:

When he hid and didn't throw at the combine that should have made Stroud the unanimous first choice for any competent front office that is looking for football players and not good dinner guests.

He literally showed up about to pass out from overeating for a couple of weeks so he could weigh more than a buck seventy-five. Then he slipped out the back without firing a pass. It was just so obvious to competent football people. 

2 hours ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

Bryce has never been accurate on deep throws. During his best statistical year at Alabama, Bryce completed only 36.1% of passes 20 yards or longer. That is freaking atrocious. For comparison, Tua's completion rate at Alabama on passes 20 yards or longer was 57.1%, and Mac Jones' was 58%. 

Young's deep ball accuracy is not gonna suddenly and miraculously improve in the NFL, which begs the question: how in the world did our evaluators and scouts miss this giant red flag? I thought Tepper prides himself on using analytics, so how did they miss this?

 

20-yard throws	Comp.	Att.	%	Yards	Y/A	Y/C	Drop
2021: Young	10	33	36.1%	416	12.6	41.6	9%
2020: Jones	29	50	58%	1,279	25.6	44.1	8%
2019: Tua	17	35	48.6%	659	18.8	38.8	3%
2018: Tua	24	42	57.1%	944	22.5	39.3	2%
Source: SECStatCat

Wow, how do you not see or look at this as a scout and be like no way! I mean he was missing wide open guys down field with protection today over and over! It was abysmal!

Sad, sad, sad.

8 minutes ago, Selltheteamtepper said:

? We got to be honest, Cam played with heart and the fans will always love him but he did NOT have Josh Allen level arm talent or understanding of the game. He always had kind of a slow clunky delivery, and never improved on his progressions. We ran kind of a simple power run/single read system during Cams 3 good years. He had the best defense in the league and a top 5 line those years too, we were essentially the Eagles. Allen’s team is all old and slow. 

This has got to be trolling and is the reason people bring Cam up from time to time. Josh Allen needs to go to a Championship, win some playoff games, and stop turning the ball over at an alarming clip before you attempt to troll. 

Josh Allen has over 93+ turnovers since coming in the league. Stahhhhp!

7 hours ago, SazmoRanger said:

The Chargers only scoring 6 points yesterday against the Patriots seems like the perfect foreshadowing for Moore to Carolina. I can see it. 

I had a friend who draft Herbert in fantasy and I  told him trade him before week 1. Moore is a terribly erratic play caller with no rhyme or reason to his gameplan. That is where I would go if I was Ben Johnson after they fire their head coach on Black Monday. 

3 hours ago, Newtcase said:

I'd sooner imagine Tepper had a list of everything Pittsburgh did wrong and was intent on showing them the right way to do it when he bought the Panthers.

He was told to sit down and be quiet several times up there including the time he clamored for them to fire the only coach to not have a losing season ever! I mean if you got impatient with Mike Tomlin, you don't know football in the slightest. All the signs of terrible ownership have been there not the least, eating Ketchup on a $70 cut of steak. Why us?

39 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

I mean it wasn’t some comedic sitcom moment, but it’s not a good look when they’re both leaving the booth right after the QB you just traded the farm for throws a terrible game ending interception.

Yeah, where are they going? It's not like they have traffic to beat like us poor slubs.

Penix Jr.

A large faction of you didn't want Wilks to get the job, because he couldn't find a way to cover Mike Evans with a depleted secondary to the point that they had to sign coffee shop baristas

The fact that he still even had them in contention for the division that late in the season with that roster was amazing, but nooooo, we need an offensive minded coach

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We don't have the right kind of linemen to run a zone scheme, especially on the left, but we're trying to do it anyway.

I wonder why this hasn't been brought up more. We drafted/signed a bunch of road graders and want them to be dancing bears in a zone scheme. I guarantee with Ickey bearing down run play after run play, these linebacker sized DEs wouldn't just run around him on passing downs. I can guarantee cause we saw it last year. 

Why don't you think they are running close to the same scheme? I mean it worked with PJ at QB and he's almost exact same height as Bryce. I just don't get it. 

He shouldn't have even applied. He wasn't ready to coach again and I feel was the scape goat for Tepper having to actually hire a coach that wouldn't be a pushover. I'll say it again and again. No coach worth his weight would've let Nicole Tepper even talk to his QB prospects until introduction day after the draft, much less have her fielding calls in the war room. 

32 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The one thing I've noticed is that nobody seems to want to blame Josh Allen for anything.

I'm not so sure that's the right approach.

It is not! He has had over 90 turnovers personally in his first six years. When they threw up that stat last night I couldn't believe it. This kid is a bad decision maker and has all the sloppy mechanic issues as well. And firing Dorsey was a scape goat move! They were breaking it down in game how he had wide open options with those route combinations and was just making bad decisions. On top of that they are promoting the guy that was supposed to be working on the finite parts of his game, which look like year one. 

9 hours ago, Newbie said:

TMJ was never close to a breakout. He’s sucked the entire time he’s been here. 

I don't know what to tell people that want to overgeneralize. He was open some, he caught some passes, and blocked well for the run game after Wilks took over last year. I agree, he looks lost again this year. 

On 10/24/2023 at 9:39 PM, onmyown said:

Still don’t understand Tepper do you? Some of you just don’t get it.

I’d love Harbaugh. Yes he’s short lived and annoying as hell. But he knows how to win.

Problem is, he’s the type that will tell Tepper his ideas are stupid. As is probably the case for a lot of coaches who interview here and come to find out ‘aren’t a good fit’, yet have success elsewhere. Tepper is the problem.

Know why Tepper’s constantly parades this idea he loves to hire people that disagree with him and provide constructive criticism? Because he’s trying to convince himself.

Reality is, he cannot stand being disagreed with let alone shown otherwise. It’s why he hasn’t hired help. And he certainly would never allow someone to cross his wife who is a big part of decision making.

His history of bitterness, grudges, and past hires of yes men prove this point.

Keep dreaming. Tepper will win his way or not at all. He wants all the credit or no one to have it.

Could you imagine Jim Harbaugh allowing Nicole Tepper to even talk to the QB he is going to draft until he was in the building for introductions? Secondly, could you imagine Harbaugh allowing her to answer phones during the draft or have any input in the draft period? That would be day one, keep these people out of my way and let me do football stuff! Our team has been turned in to a playground for neurotic nepotism and Gump fantasies. This may get a whole lot worse!

13 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Wasn’t he a minority owner in Pittsburgh? One of the most stable franchises in League history? Did he not have conversations with any of the Rooneys about how they have been so successful? 
 

I think we have an owner who thinks he knows it all and will literally have to destroy this franchise before he learns anything.

Here's your answer below. As a minority owner, he spent most of his time trying to convince them to blow everything up starting with Tomlin who is recently one of the most consistent winning, franchise leaders in the game! 

15 hours ago, frankw said:

Himself.

The man tried to oust Mike Tomlin.

He's an egomaniac.

17 hours ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

Nicole tepper

Yeeeeeahhhhh!  

TMJ as well as our offensive line looked prime to break out and be the least of our worries. Now with this revolutionary offense created specifically for Bryce, everybody looks like they have never played football. I mean seriously, McAdoo had us looking like we had a decent offense that needed a few pieces. Now it is complete trash. 

Should have went with Bieniemy three years ago, but nooo I want the guy that eats and dresses like me that once was a short order cook like me too 

On 11/4/2023 at 6:48 PM, countryboi said:

Im ok with this, people obsess trading known assets for imaginary players, at some point you need to develop and pay your players and stop acting like a farm system for the 49ers.

Exactly, if we become the Pittsburgh Pirates of the NFL, I really am done watching this league. I have started to notice that there are a few teams who have built well through draft and are getting huge assets from teams with one or two decent players for peanuts. How can the Commodes really act like they are trying to win giving away their two young pass rushers for a 2nd and a 3rd? That would be like us trading Peppers for a 3rd and Rucker for a 2nd in 05 to New England. 

I firmly believe we could've kept all of our picks, players including the Darnold picks and if we sucked, would still be in a position this upcoming draft to pick our franchise QB. But Mr. Trade picks just to trade seemingly started giving away players for a rebuild and then this summer, boom the narrative that we could be a playoff team. Faaaaaace Palm!