Ivan The Awesome

She's skewing a lot. Yes Burns is good. He's not 30M dollar good though.

Lions need to call and offer Williamson a 1st and a mid round pick for him.

The only way i see this working is if they go back to the run and get a SOLID Center. otherwise nah bud, this ain't working. Ickey was miles better as a run first LT and only some Passing downs, and not a full 3 pass downs.

Also the idea of moving Ickey to LG and thinking that will magically fix him is just asinine. In College he played LT and limited LG snaps. Zavala was next to him most of his career.  Moving him to LG will not magically fix the issues, that narrative needs to die.

Honestly Wilks called a better game than Shannahan. Kyle abandoned the run, for who knows what reason and the offense with the turn overs was just not helping. Also the special teams giving mahomes that short yardage TD...I mean Wilks adjusted but it was too much in the end. Too many bad turn overs that they couldn't stop the bleeding. But that ending was just bleh..

HOnestly I don't blame Wilks, there were some questionable calls on him, like rushing/blitzing when the 4 man rush was actually working and no spy on Mahomes really did them in.

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

They don’t have a choice.   You got to pick it up and pray.   

Nah, there's always a choice. You don't leave it to chance like that. Hoping and praying doesn't get this team to where it needs to be.

Don't put to much stock into guys getting open on 1 on 1 drills. Those drills are designed to literally help the WR get open. I'd put more relevance on it if they did that at actual games and not these practices. Game speed/ability will always show up there. Not saying that guys that had a good week aren't good, just saying that it's not the be all end all.

1 hour ago, PghPanther said:

You don't know that.......nobody knows that........................we would only know that if he was 6'4" or taller and what results that would have brought last year.

I do know that. I watched the games and he has less batted balls in the NFL than most QB's. Like wtf are you correlating height into his game play? There is no correlation there and there isn't a significant stat that links back to his height being detrimental to his production. Nothing. Only stat would clearly be batted balls and in that stat he's not the QB with most batted balls. So again, Height isn't the problem for Bryce.  Durability isn't either since the man got sacked 62 times and only missed 1 game compared to bigger taller QB's that missed MULTIPLE games. So this dumbass narrative needs to stop.

18 minutes ago, PghPanther said:

Let's "develop" height................like to see that one. 

That was not a problem last year, even as much as the huddle loves to point it out.

22 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

Sign Evans and Higgins.  Keep Thielen and Mingo. Draft a rookie or two. 

This basically.

IN reality, if we get one of either Evan or Higgins, that alone helps, then draft a rookie in the 2nd round.

22 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

Sign Evans and Higgins.  Keep Thielen and Mingo. Draft a rookie or two. 

This basically.

IN reality, if we get one of either Evan or Higgins, that alone helps, then draft a rookie in the 2nd round.

Instead of saying "Fix" maybe use another word that is more fitting for Bryce..."Develop" Because that's what needs to happen.

Most of his "fixing" will be done by giving him a better line and maybe weapons that actually create separation and aren't in their mid 30's.

4 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Who are they supposed to report to, Roger Goodell?  Jfc wait til the season starts at least before judging the new guys

Have you seen the track record of Tepper. I don't blame anyone that is rolling their eyes at this and is not happy about it.

We don't know what is said in those meetings but so far these events have not lead into anything good.

Believe me I HOPE to god Tepper learns and keeps it simple and doesn't meddle.

I like this hire more than ol concussion boy.

He will get free agents in here. Which is badly needed. I like Canales hiring more than Morgan (GM wise, loved the player)

I'm glad they dodged this bullet.

53 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

This argument is as dumb as not wanting to CJ Stroud because he played at Ohio State

The truest dumb thing here is your assessment, the deflecting, and poorly used example.

Can someone remind me what happened the last time this team got a retread HC from the AFC south?

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll be here to take out the trash when it happens.

If you can't see the difference in these two situations that's on you. Pointing out a player's lack of ability has never been off limits here. But mocking a player for injuries sustained on the field is just being a straight up trashy person and I got the garbage truck warmed up.

Meanwhile, feel free to go find where I've called Bryce Young or any other player a midget.

 

That is the most double standard bs poo I come to expect from your ass.

"The two bought homes in the same neighborhood, went on scouting trips together and were key decision-makers for an organization that went an NFL-worst 14-37 over the last three seasons.

That kind of ugly record usually earns everyone a pink slip, not a promotion."

That is a damming quote.

Expect all the CTE poo from me when this blows up. You mf's do that poo to Bryce all the time. So keep the same energy.

Absolute trash organization.

15 hours ago, Mage said:

I mean Dan Morgan worked under Brandon Beane in Buffalo for the same amount of years.  Why are we putting all the Fitt blame on him but none of the Beane credit?

Nobody really knows how much influence Morgan may or may not have had.  And I'm not saying that to say it would be a great hire or people shouldn't be frustrated.  Just think it wouldn't be right to act like Morgan would be a guaranteed disaster.  It is hard to tell.

YOu can't pull the "We don't know" card and act like he didn't do the wrongs. You just can't. You either did help with the presvious disaster or you didn't. Only way you can even say he didn't is if he wasn't here. This is a stupid way of doing things. It's like Einsteins quote about insanity.

Your logic could work the same with Beane and Morgan in Buffalo. "How do you know he did anything." You see? It's idiotic to think that way and absolve morgan of any wrong or right.

34 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Brandon Beane also worked under a GM that made some stupid decisions. Unless you have first hand knowledge of what were Morgan’s thoughts and decisions behind the scenes vs. Tepper/Fitterer/whoever, then what is the point fretting over it?

I've seen this thrown around like it's logical. The point you fail to see is that in Beane's tenure here, regardless of what people think of him, Hurney was a good evaluator of talent. Hurney knew talent. His 1st round pick rate was one of the best in the league. He had a good teacher. Dan had Fitt boy...so no I do not want anyone from this previous regime.

Don't be surprised if they move up to the late 1st round to get that 5 year deal.

That's Tepper's boy. He's going to give him all the opportunities he can muster.

6 hours ago, TN05 said:

1) Bryce Young (1st, F) - Even if he pans out, the cost was not worth the sacrifice.

Um.. if he pans out that immediately absolves the sacrifice...You can't have it both ways.