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7 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah this always confuses me too.  I keep reading Brees was WAY taller.  Brees was 6 foot and 1/4, Russ was 5 foot 10 and 5/8, Kyler was the exact same height.  The funny thing is Caleb might not be 6 foot.  USC has him listed as 6 foot and 1 inch, but I keep reading it's more like 6 foot even or possible a little smaller.  

The whole narrative has to be adjusted to make us look worse (which I mean it isn't necessary we screwed up plenty as a team).  Young was the same height as a recent top pick, most people had Young as QB1, the Texans wanted Young and inquired about trading up to 1 for him. It's turning into Young was the shortest ever and we reached like crazy for him because Tepper made us.  

If young played like he was 6’4” no one would care about his size. He plays like he’s 5’2” is the problem. 

7 hours ago, CRA said:

Yeah, statistically, Bryce is still an anomaly at the position.   Murray is another. 

since 1970, only 30 of the 522 QBs drafted have been 6 ft or shorter.  Most of that 30 number isn't 5'10 guys.  

and Kyler and most other short kings are heavier and better built.  Bryce is small amongst the small.  It's really crazy when you think about drafting him #1 and giving up a bunch of stuff on top of it. 

Kyler also has elite athleticism and a bigger arm. 

11 hours ago, Jaxel said:

5'2"... I mean is the guy an elementary student. You don't have to insult some one to male a point, especially when everyone understands the guy is shorter than 90% of QBs. Lame sauce this one.

  So taller than 10% of NFL QBs? List those QBs please. lol

15 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

A part of me wants to see him get a top 5 DE contract just to see this board have a meltdown.

 

Realistically I think we should seriously trade him for a possible upgrade at WR. Can we get Metcalf for Burns?

We would have to include a second or something.

I wonder how much Tepper ends up paying this guy.

One thing is for sure, I would never use a high pick on a QB that didn't throw at the combine.    

boom!

36 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

This is kind of interesting.  ESPN has a redraft for this past draft..

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/insider/story/_/id/39423332/redrafting-first-two-rounds-63-picks-2023-nfl-class

it has us taking Stroud at 1, AR to the Texans, and Young goes at 11 to the Titans.

The bears would be pissed if that's how the draft went. We wouldn't be shipping #1 to them for sure. Maybe not even a top 10 pick.

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Mahomes is currently in the Super Bowl. 

Cam did it too.

12 hours ago, GhostOfDocAnderson said:

That's gonna be tough because Bryce doesn't have the ball placement skills to enable YAC. One step at a time. Bryce needs to first focus on throwing on time, then he needs to focus on throwing catchable balls. Everything else is a luxury at this point.

He already does...ask any DB in the league.

2 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Horn isn’t going anywhere 

Not without some help anyway.

1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

   So at this point, the front office and the staff have to do what is best for the team going forward.  If that means we move to a power running attack, so be it.   

Wouldn't we need a QB that can play under center for that?

Diggs would probably rather retire than come here. What elite wr would want to come here and catch screen passes? Thielen level guys are what we are lookin at.

When the kicker is one of the top 5 of dawgs on your team...you might have the problem.

21 minutes ago, CRA said:

Which makes the DJ trade even worse.  A million reasons it’s bad.  But it’s the one spot we have been the worst at finding talent at.   DL? We can find that. 

QB & LT have been just as bad.

1 hour ago, Paa Langfart said:

 

 

Bryce will never be able to do this

https://youtu.be/kSVC7_8OmV0?t=13

or this, he could only make that throw in his dreams

48 minutes ago, KBRed said:

Can I just say…a lot of people are posting these 32nd in the league stats, but not disclosing that our offense was atrocious. The defense was on the field probably 30% more than most teams. Making that number up, but it seems plausible. 

A bad offense can make the D stats appear better sometimes though. Other teams offenses played very conservatively against us because they knew if the scored 10 or more that they would probably win.  

Just now, jamos14 said:

Then why not try to find some of the positives in his game instead of consistently tearing him down or anybody else that supports him?

Because I see someone that doesn't look like they physically belong in the NFL. I have a hard time sugarcoating that. Nothing against him at all personally though.

10 minutes ago, countryboi said:

You would complain about that too

I will admit I prefer big arm QBs, but if Young comes out lookin like a badass and wins, I will give him all due credit. I desperately want to be wrong about him.

1 minute ago, jamos14 said:

Show me one pass that was intercepted because he floated it?  Only one throw was even close that I can remember and it was a pick 6 on flat that he threw too late.

 lol

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

  Because there are certain plays where Bryce Young flat out can't get the ball to where it needs to be in time because of his arm.  It would technically get to the spot though.

and get intercepted

2 minutes ago, countryboi said:

The problem with football fans is that there is no middle ground, you are either Josh Allen or Brock Purdy in terms of arm strength. While Bryce is never going to prime Cam but he can make all the throws. you can see it with those opposite hash outs routes, you don't even throw that unless you can sling it because those are interceptions.

The most important thing this off season is fixing the middle of the line so Bryce as a place to step in to

I would love it if Young had Purdy's arm strength. 

13 hours ago, t96 said:

Tepper can pretend he’ll give them a leash but if we don’t make the playoffs by 2025 I think they’re gone after 2. If not sooner.

Any coach that can take a team to the playoffs with Young as the starter deserves the coach of the century award.

His arm strength is so amazing that we have to put Dalton in for hail marys. lol