DaveThePanther2008

5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

No.

What has Dak done with a better team around him?

He's choked.

I know Bryce hasn't proven anything, but let's set our sights a bit higher.

More of a conversation. 

I still have hopes that BY shows with some weapons and a legitimate offense line he's going to be better.

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Dak isn't that good. The Cowboys have had a very good OL and good weapons his entire career. He's largely a product of that. I honestly think he's probably a slightly above average starting QB in a good offensive situation. He's the type of QB that paying him like a legit franchise QB just ties a cap noose around your organization's neck.

Definitely see your point. 

However, he made Geno Smith 22 and Baker Mayfield 23 Pro Bowl QBs. I would venture to say Prescott is a better QB than both of those guys.

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

a) we dont know as of now the qb situation for 2025, something always seems to happen during the season

b)If DC cannot fix a number one overall pick doesnt that go against the narrative that he is some qb whisperer?

A) I said IF.

B) The past two seasons Canales has shown he knows what he's doing. Because Young couldn't grasp his training doesn't mean he's not a QB whisperer. 

1 minute ago, trucpfan said:

This is a very interesting thought Dak is a very good QB who hits all areas of the field accurately. If he would take a very respectable deal leaving us a little money to add more playmakers I'd be more then happy with a top 15 QB running the show here. It'd be a treat to have a QB who throws deep accurate and hits out routes consistently, our only gripe would be his clutch gene but that's more of a playoff thing and we're just trying to not get a top 5 draft pick next two years lol.

Agreed. 

If he would take a very respectable deal leaving us a little money to add more playmakers I'd be more then happy with a top 15 QB running the show here.

To me this is the biggest drawback.  Part of the issue with DP is he wants top dollar.  

On 5/18/2024 at 9:54 AM, Ricky Prickles said:

Not only does he give off a great vibe but he looks good in a tight shirt and has some lovely hair. A+ all the way around girlfriend!

Come on, man. You know you miss the potbellied Matt Fhule. 

If in 2024 Brice Young doesn't show improvement and there aren't any surefire franchise QBs in the 2025 draft. 

Dak is done in Dallas after 2024. Would you consider Dak?

For me I've never been a huge Prescott fan but with Canales's ability to bring a QB along it's an interesting thought.

What this doesn't show is whether BY was up to his ass in defenders crawling all over him.

Before we pass judgment for 2024 how about we wait and see if a stud O-line makes a difference. 

16 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Olsen was a damn warrior. 

Go be a warrior kid. 

At least he didn't say he wanted to be like Ian Thomas.

This is just the beginning.  Pro Football Hall of Fame is next.

He was a defensive coordinator worst nightmare.  My favorite thing about 89 is he didn't back down to anyone.  MJ is the GOAT but I cannot think of anyone that took smack talking to a level of MJ other than Agent 89.

I will never forget Fred Smoot talking how he was going to shut Smitty down. After that game Smoot was never the same. Plus I was estatic to have seen that game live.

Can't wait to see him against NFL talent.

ME NEITHER 

20 hours ago, jayflip said:

I feel like all y'all Bryce haters are severely underestimating how bad of a hire Frank was. CJ in last years offense would look atrocious and BY in the Texans offense would have lit the world on fire. 
 

have some faith. Or not. Seems like a whole bunch of ya enjoy being miserable. 

Agreed 

That said, 2024 there should be no more excuses.  BY will have several new targets, an improved O-line and a more competent coaching staff this year. He just needs to play better.

If he's continues to make mistakes or just can't get the job done than we need to move on in 2025.

He'll make a reasonable improvement ~ 24 TD 3000 yards and well be competing for division

I think something close to this is the only thing that keeps us from drafting a QB in 2025. Anything less we're wasting years.

On 4/28/2024 at 4:03 PM, mountainpantherfan2 said:

Xavien Howard, JC Jackson, Cameron Sutton and Patrick Peterson are all also still available. I would prefer Gilmore but there are still other option is the asking price is too high. 

Once it gets closer to training camp their asking price is going to come down significantly.  Once you skip a year of playing at their age they will soon be forgotten. 

19 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Fan base is excited.  A black left-handed QB named Michael. 

Never happened before--I don't think.

Just now, NAS said:

I agree, bunch of guys who won't have an issue with maximum effort and toughness, they'll maximize their potential and punch above their weight.

Something this team sorely needs. I don't want them to get along. I want them to battle tooth and nail.

I'm really excited about OTAs and mini-camps. 

14 minutes ago, NAS said:

 

I just believe these picks have more to do with the mental makeup and physical traits. Both of the LBs give me a Frankie Luvu feeling.

I know everyone is getting tried of the "Dawg" comments but every one of them give me that feeling. 

Hopefully we'll see that in camp. I expect a couple of fights.

13 hours ago, Sniffrey said:

I like a good underdog story myself. The UDFA we got who I thought had a legitimate shot to make the team, Taylor Upshaw changed his mind. With the path to making the team being beat out DJ Johnson I think he had a real shot.

I maybe did jump in a little strong on Coker. I just spent untold hours on this year's WR class reviewing tape and listing strengths and weaknesses. I don't think Coker has is. That's my opinion and I shared it. There was a response, so I gave my opinion on what was said. It's a dialogue. A discussion. We could have continued.  

What's not cool is getting called out by some douche nozzle with 3 posts in a row just because the opinion doesn't mesh with the group think and isn't the opinion of the douche nozzle in question.  We have a Nostradamus, a real football diety, someone who defies the great Steve Smith, who isn't talking intelligent football, and is just a troll. 

This isn't discussing football intelligently? 

Anyway, I won't ruin you Christmas. I don't plan to ever return to this site again after I hit submit. But before I go, maybe you'd like to pull for Andrew Raym, the Center from Oklahoma. He's a plus road grading run blocker, but isn't a great pass protector. He gets too upright and gets susceptible to a bull rush. He's got potential with some good coaching. Just my two cents. Have a nice Christmas. Peace!

Thanks for the warning. Goodbye Troll.

17 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

So Legette is so bad than an UDFA is starting over him?

I never said that.

With this core of WRs we have several different combinations.  This was just one of them.

26 minutes ago, falconlynx said:

Crazy the rest of y’all can’t see this. Well said. 

Here's the clip. I don't see the issue everyone seems to be worried about. He's been working this position for several years and now he'll prove it.

https://youtu.be/tuul7aBtbGA?si=k-gyD4adheHnnMXu

I can't believe there wasn't a serious conversation between Morgan, Canales and Corbett, Christensen and Mays.  IMO, Corbett convinced them he can play the position as well as Christensen and Mays. We have OTAs and mini-camps to evaluate and address the position if they aren't doing well.

I was hoping for a C too in the draft, but am completely satisfied with the draft. Rounds 1-4 filled many needs. You can be upset that we didn't address the center position but you gotta love we got offensive talent for BY. 

Raym seems to fit the attitude Morgan is looking for. Has some issues and will probably make the PS. His deficencies are coachable. Who knows maybe he becomes Norwell 2.0.

Imagine. Johnson on one side Coker the other, Theilen in the slot and Sanders at TE. You can double team the all. Johnson and Coker running precise routes.

All of the are dangerous because they are sure handed.

Could be a fun year.

18 hours ago, NAS said:

Agent 89 approved 

https://x.com/overtimepanther/status/1784392389236244804?s=46

 

 

Has Smitty said anything since we signed him?

The wins will be a factor but I believe it will be more about how he progresses. If he's pulling a Darnold and making the same mistakes over and over again the wins won't mean that much.

They say he's a smart QB. He'll have weapons this season so we'll see if he uses them.

1 minute ago, WhoKnows said:

But 39 was due to trading him. I’m saying you can’t just count the 2025 2nd in the grade without also counting losing Burns. I think grading the draft with the guys we actually took this year is fair. People were complaining that our grades ignore the 2025 second and ignoring how we got 39.

If you're going to bring up the Burns trade you have to include the players we were able to sign with the money we saved by trading Burns.  We got three positions of need with the money we saved by trading him. 

Actually pretty shocked we go decent grades for these picks because there were other high profile names still on the board and would have thought we'd get lambasted for our picks.