Untouchable

6 minutes ago, ncfan said:

“We’ve built ourselves up for the opportunity”

This is the important part of this quote.  Where they have failed to pull the trigger in the past I don't see that stopping them this year.  It's happening this offseason.

First round is all but guaranteed to be a QB now and I doubt we'll have our first round pick in 2024 either.

On 1/13/2023 at 1:52 PM, ncfan said:

Jarrett also was a composite 5* coming out of HS

https://247sports.com/Player/Rakim-Jarrett-46039172/high-school-190305/

 

Diggs best season in college he has 848 yards and 6 TDs 

Jarretts was 829 yards and 5 TDs

Diggs also had like 1900 all purpose yards that season. I personally don't see the same type of athlete/WR when watching them in college but what do I know.

Can't remember if I've mentioned him elsewhere but I'll throw out another name I like in the probably the 3rd or 4th round range and that's Houston's Tank Dell.  Slight and fast (not a burner) but so quick and great at getting separation with his route running. If he can add maybe 20 pounds and keep that quickness could be a great weapon in the slot

On 1/13/2023 at 12:24 PM, *FreeFua* said:

Route running is everything and Smith-Njigba will put guys in a blender while running a 5 yard out 

Moore, Smith-Njigba and Marshall give you 3 guys with different skill sets

Separation is top trait for a WR for me and speed and route running get you there. Despite Ginn's maddening drops I still loved him (somehow) because he always got so open. Addison and JSN have to be the top 2 in the class for me.

You know I'm high on Musgraves who started getting 1st round love. Can't argue with draft one bit but I think the DL upgrades are coming in free agency.

Some simulator looks like they way undervalued Kancey to me. Pulling those first 5 would be a solid draft though I personally want to see a TE with more receiving prowess to go along with what is already on the roster

17 hours ago, ncfan said:

Talking about Slot there is a guy who may be around rd4-5 who I’d love 

another Maryland prospect who his scouting report and every reminds me a lot of Diggs when he came out.

 

Diggs

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/stefon-diggs/32004449-4721-8895-fc23-d2bf4c921bd4

 

Rakim Jarrett

 

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Rakim-Jarrett-WR-Maryland

 

I like Jarrett but I don't know if he's Diggs.  Diggs was so underrated coming into the NFL because of some off-field concerns but he was dynamic and a top 10 prospect coming out of high school.  But Jarrett would be a great day 3 grab for the slot assuming his route running improves.  Shi probably has him beat in that department coming out.

Another one I'm starting to look into for the slot is Nathaniel Dell from Houston who just seems to know how to get seperation.  He's light though so how he weighs in this offseason will be important.

I wouldn't eliminate those top WRs simply because we don't know how the board will fall, but they will also be well covered in the run up to the draft.

Couple of names I'll add is UT's Jaylin Hyatt (possible day 1), Washington's Rome Odzune (possible day 2) and Princeton's Andrei Iosivas (possible day 3) as the Robby Anderson's "stretch the defense" type role which kind of went missing. Yes Moore can do it (he did in 2020) but he is also far more beneficial to move around.

We're also going to probably want to upgrade that slot type/ get open quickly over the middle type role Shi Smith is in. A TE or 2 is almost certainly going to be found to help here (as well as help up the seams) Josh Downs comes to mind first. Very good WR prospect all around to be honest that probably could go first round as the off season goes on.

On 11/30/2022 at 10:31 AM, CBird said:

Really like DT Jalen Carter. Imagine him and Brown in the middle.

Also really like RB Charbonnet, S JL Skinner

This is a good place to start. Jalen Carter is as dominant and as safe a prospect as there is in this draft and adding him beside Brown would be absolutely deadly to any opponents attempt at a pocket.

TCU WR Quentin Johnson is another one of the elite prospects in this draft.

I like both UCLA's Charbonnet and Ole Miss' Evans at RB.

 Oregon State TE Musgrave is underrated to me right now because of missing most of the season but it's an absolute stud.

I really like Pitt DL Tweener Calijah Kancy too if he's used in the right scheme/role because he knows how to get to the QB.

7 minutes ago, Prowler2k18 said:

I’m actually okay with keeping Piniero over Gonzalez. The latter has finished the last couple of seasons on IR which makes me question his durability going forward. We need consistency in our kicking game.

And the injuries just happened randomly in warmups.  Availability is an important factor.

He absolutely is.  With the nature of Gonzalez's injuries the last 2 seasons too, he might even have a leg up in a kicking competition.

20 hours ago, Stuart Smith said:

Dan Arnold was not a great run blocker, if he had been he might still be here.

Correct, but you would not bringing him (or a similar player) in as a cheap vet because of his run blocking.  It would be about adding a skill set that is missing from the TE room to bridge until hopefully a good draft pick gets up to speed.

Side note, Dan Arnold coming back open as a free agent again this off-season. Could see him coming back as a cheap vet with minimal guaranteed money to get use out of until the rookie takes over.

28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm super intrigued by Darnell Washington. His measurables are off the chart and he's shown tremendous flashes. UGA just has so many weapons he kind of gets lost in the mix. But in a way it almost helps him as a prospect because unlike most college TEs he's going to come into the draft ready to go as a blocker. Most of these college TEs these days are basically just jumbo slot WRs.

Blocking wise easily a 6th lineman and had the looks of someone who can end up as a dangerous red zone weapon. I don't know if he'll ever have that down field threat to him though so that cools me on him.

I'm gravitating to that receiving threat at TE because of what's currently on the roster though too.

15 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Right there was a solid 3rd round that suddenly went poof!

These QBs are smart.  Transfer and get that money in college now.

Minshew would make sense as a bridge or a vet QB if a HC/OC comes in from that Eagles pipeline (Reich, Steichan) because of his strong familiarity with the system.

He's TE3 to me right now because of his blocking and athletic profile compared to the others.  Arguably has the best route running and hands at TE in this draft though.  @LinvilleGorge mentioned the other two with ND's Mayer an easy TE1 and Oregon State's Musgrave at a distant TE2. 

Unlikely. Vet QB probably going to depend heavily on the play caller (coach or OC)

Still remains the best bad QB I've ever seen. He's just looking bad now.

19 hours ago, saX man said:

Clayton Tune and Jake Haener man..if they keep it going, it's going to be hard to keep ignoring them.  Haener has a pretty light frame but both are really showing out.  Gotta imagine they're more than a blip on radars at this point.  

Richardon looked pretty good at times, the potential is there, he could be climbing on team boards.

 

 

Fresno State has been a noticeably different team when Haener is playing versus when he was out injured this year.

Day 1 - Young and (maybe) Stroud

Day 2 - Richardson and Penix Jr

Day 3 - Ward and McCall

Pretty much all I'm down to right now.  I've talked myself out of the rest.

The media was fishing for some drama in 2011.  Cam's tape against LSU, Alabama and Oregon had him as a lock at 1 to any competent scout once Luck returned.

This is not a knock on your great work here but just a general comment with these reported trade compensation. It shouldn't be assumed that what was reported was the true compensation either. Could have been equivalent value instead. Or they were only reporting one side of the trade and we would have had to send some picks or players back as well.

1 and 2 are correct but that's easy money. Levis at 4 is certifiably crazy, but I'm sure that the idea.