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you get additional points on two point conversions if you’re a HOG MOLLY TEAM with a BLUE COLLAR QB is what he’s saying

Oh no I definitely meant their current 1st.

like the panthers saving grace is that basically every up and coming star QB drafted recently is in the afc, jury out on Fields and Lance. the panthers have had a chance to get out ahead of this and be the future of the conference for a while but they’re letting it slip through their fingers, Niners no doubt considered the power dynamics of the conference when they made the big play for Lance. Got to take a chance on being that team while the door is open. The panthers aren’t sold out to the idea. They’re sold out on being clever at the QB position. They’re sold out on not “rushing to judgment” to evaluate Rhule and staff. it’s a garbage dump crew of decision makers letting a platinum opportunity slip through their grasp.

Him almost certainly meriting a 1st might be the only thing that spares them then again I could see this staff actually doing it while Pickett or Howell or whatever go a few picks later to Atlanta and own the division for the next decade

that was the same guy who said it was most efficient to take a QB after the 1st round in another thread, I’d disregard

It is bonkers there are still people trying to resist the reality of this. not just here I mean, though that too i mean running the panthers

He was far and away the most qualified but wasn’t willing to be a yes man for a college coach

yeah so like rhule has been blathering on about this as his ideal offense since he got here most coaches who are stuck in this frame of mindset for offense and are determined to prove it’s still the way at least have the decency to offer up coachspeak publicly, “yeah well you always wanna cater your offense around your guys’ skill set and not get stuck into any one frame of mind.” rhule openly pines for a game manager QB and an offense catered around the run game.

so they don’t want those guys but they want the guy we can get so we give up the guy they want to get the guys they don’t want

wow buddy keep these hot takes outta here, you clearly just don’t see the value in showing every other franchise how smart you are

But how can I draft a QB if I don’t have every other position on the roster sorted out first?

QB Purgatory III: Return of the Free Agent Has Been

This is revealing

there’s also a bunch of other weird inconsistencies here that don’t make sense the giants intend to take a QB but wait until their second selection to do so? Why would they do that? Why put a franchise guy at risk? if teams love a QB enough to come up for them, why would the panthers pass on him? To “get back picks from the darnold trade”…? Picks don’t fix the panthers. Valuable picks fix the panthers. A second would be nice (not the player you projected though) but it is vastly less valuable than addressing the need at the QB position. You can buy quality center play for pennies on the dollar. Nothing about this maneuvering improves the panthers chances of winning games. you have the panthers give up the 6th pick in the draft and all they get out of it are the literal Darnold trade picks they haven’t made up for yet, they don’t even get multiple 1’s?? do you have any idea how much valuable 6 is than 11?

Oof the goal of the draft is not to make Sonny SofaSurfer’s offseason more interesting by having Lots Of Picks. chasing your own tail trying to overcompensate for the mistake the darnold trade was would only be doubling down on that mistake. The panthers can work with the offseason they have relative to their needs. Overreacting is only going to make the problem worse. also all those picks are bad

A positional coach is never more important than a coordinator and “beefing up the OL!!!” is far from the biggest crisis facing this team.

No argument here but I don’t expect Matt rhule to intentionally lay down and accept his fate just because I don’t like him, nor do I expect Dave tepper to long for a bad season just so he can rub it in Matt rhules face just because he doesn’t like him

What an awful opinion matt rhule is paid to win football games, everyone desires that Matt rhule wins football games. Matt rhule is expected to do what it takes to win football games. Nobody cares about money or cap space or any of these meaningless things. They care about winning. At no point in any sport at any time has a scenario like you just described happened.

If you don’t feel good about any QB you are almost always wrong and need to reevaluate your ability to scout talent

With Mr Scot its more a resentment of the way the game has changed. Winning a certain way is just as important to him as winning. Nobody here misses the way the game was more than me but I’m not out to prove it should or can still be done a certain way.

For starters, obviously yes, strong QB play turns teams into instant contenders. This is a proven reality many times over. Secondly, to willfully miss the reality that the draft doesn’t center around this year but the next 10 years is an indictment on your tiny perspective.

it’s kind of a hilarious comment given how often a QB turns a bad team into a good one

A couple years ago I looked up how long it had been since a team had taken a OT in the top 10 and had that guy be an anchor on a super bowl run and had to go back forever the chiefs won one with Eric fisher since then but nobody would confuse him with being important to their success-especially the chiefs. offensive line is a really practical free agency investment, whereas conversely, a lot of the offensive lines on the list above have been together on bad teams for a while and only became relevant organizations once they found a QB..Dallas, Tampa, etc.

What does this mean? do people who say stuff like this really not realize how small it makes their perspective look? there is a world and an offseason and offseasons beyond just what the panthers do with this one singular pick with this pick however, you have to abide by the mechanics and realities of the draft and how the league operates

Well in short the panthers didn’t draft a single other good player and nobody cared and it went on to become regarded as perhaps the best draft class in the history of the franchise because having an elite QB dwarfs everything else by comparison but also they probably should’ve gotten some more good players too, it was a great class