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take Brenden rice so we don’t have to watch him go to San Fran and have to listen to the niners media hype cycle

so if we say “yes they did” I’m guessing you’re not gonna be like “okay I’ve reconsidered my position” huh

People are still evaluating QBs as if they are or are not “worth” a 1st round pick, when cost has become a huge consideration the broncos didn’t talk themselves into believing Bo nix was an elite prospect. They did come to the realization that a solid quarterback integrated into their offense, who is cost controlled is every bit as valuable as a defensive tackle they kinda like. In Payton’s case, he certainly believes he is qualified to maximize Nix an insider with a comment made by an nfl executive said it best: there is no longer a middle class for QBs. The idea that first round QBs should be transformative is an outsiders take, but cost comprises a huge part of value for teams and rookie contract QBs are highly valuable that isn’t to say teams are enslaved to the salary cap, they definitely aren’t and that’s been proven over and again, buts it’s these elements that make it so malleable. at least that’s a line of thinking prevalent in the league right now

by all accounts this is an interpretation issue on your end

hey exposit on the plethora of reasons why an additional year of contract control for an expensive position “doesn’t move the needle” you seemed to have forgotten when all those people told you to stop pouting like a little girl earlier

also the more I think about it the more the “but rbs aren’t valuable” argument is moot because the center obsessed people wouldve absolutely still complained had they taken a CB

your perspective is that the panthers haven’t been able to replace Ryan kalil because they haven’t added a long term player but it’s not important to have a long term player at center the capability of the center has fluctuated depending on whom they have chosen to line up, his relative health, the scheme fit. But at no point have they needed tenure there. They need to make the right decision in free agency. Do that correctly and it is it no value if there’s a new face there every season.

RB isn’t the least valued position. Center is. That’s what makes the point so hilarious. The further point is that you don’t need to draft centers high to “protect Bryce young,” I actually spoke to that point in my last post to you. your concern is BUILDING THOSE HOG MOLLIES with big time investments that you can be proud of, but it’s a waste of money, a waste of draft capital, a wasted opportunity to get players who can add to your win total. ELITE ALL PRO CENTERS aren’t adding to your win total versus the good center you bought in free agency at a much more reasonable price than what you would’ve paid at every other position RBs are valuable as drafted prospects in this spot BECAUSE they generally don’t get second contracts while still adding a player who can change the make up of your football team

there’s the issue, this isn’t the way the draft works. your approach is confined to “well I just wanna get a good player bro” but that’s not the way teams draft. you have to deploy assets relative to value. Quality center play can be bought for cheap at anytime. You can’t just go out and buy high end touchdown scorers or quarterback sackers without making a massive investment-except for the draft. Setting a pick on fire to take a center (and then probably having to overpay him in his second contract because of pedigree) may make fans feel good because they don’t have to worry about getting a BUST but you’re not building a sustained championship caliber roster that way.

lol no we couldn’t of

the rage people have that we didn’t set a pick on fire by taking a center is hilarious draft guys who can change the way teams have to play you, draft guys who can intimidate defenses nobody cares who you have lined up at center

I’m as anti trade down as anyone but the board so far is falling pretty well. We’ll see how it goes.

52?

5th this season and a 2nd next season

*……did we move back to justify taking sainristil…*

why does every pick have to be this stupid

this is moving the goal posts and sounds more like you’re leaning on your pointless evaluations that we don’t here care about hes a rookie and will be afforded the opportunity to develop like all rookies and the only mature take to that is a bit of patience

you move down one pick, slide up a bit later in the draft and still get the guy you like. Peter schrager has reported there was a big competition to move up into the late first. Panthers moved up to secure their target versus other teams, bills improve their draft position.

literally no one thinks the pick swap had anything to do with buffalo lol what are you talking about

That’s a huge surprise, I really thought he’d tumble a bit. Every analytical chart I’ve seen on him never painted a good portrait. Got talent though. Paris pretty well with Allen.

eh, there’s some truth to this but collecting the reports we’ve seen, it’s likely the bills swapped with us because New England was trying to move up-probably for Leggette, given our known interest in him and some of the comments from Belichick. by swapping with us buffalo sticks it to a division rival, still gets the guy they want, probably Mitchell, and gets a little bit of icing by moving up a bit into round 5.

as I mentioned earlier, you’re also ideally hoping that Young and Leggette and pick 39 all manifest into second contract players. Without the option on Leggette, all three of those guys would need those contracts in the same offseason, which is a huge ask.

exposit the reasons why it “doesn’t move the needle”

the crowd that makes absolutely everything related to Bryce young and implodes over it every time literally anything happens has made this place an anti intellectual black hole

I think I expect edgerrin cooper but also wouldn’t be surprised at a tight end, which will make people freak out, but sinnot is one of those guys every fanbase thinks they’ve discovered as a round 3 gem and is thus potentially going to go a lot higher than expected. Both of those guys got top 30 visits. They’ve done absolutely nothing to bolster tight end all offseason despite aggression elsewhere. corner has obviously gotten a lot of smoke as well.