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it isn’t. Edge rushers and even press-man corners are more valuable than left tackles in the current NFL where the ball is coming out faster than ever before and QBs are asked to contribute with their mobility, not as a last resort, but as a necessary and ideal trait. Competent tackles are far easier to find than the players who check all those boxes. Sign a decent veteran OT, every single season, a rotating door of decent players, and your ceiling is the same. There’s no such thing as a “franchise” left tackle, no impetus to get “our guy” at that spot, no additional value to doing so. It’s an illusion driven by a dated approach to football from back when building a super bowl team meant lining up your top 5 running back behind an elite LT and dArInG ThEM tO StOp It. but that isn’t the way things are now.
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you can’t “make smart moves” if you’re trying to equate the value of a quarterback to a ancillary position like tackle there will be another half dozen “all world tackles” in the next draft, and the one after that, and the one after that. opportunities to take the 1st QB off the board are rare
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kinda had the same thought one way or another this makes it seem like they have their mind made up on Ridder I don’t believe they hate him, and if they did why let everyone know? move down, make sure nobody knows about your interest in him, and take him there. Sell the interest in the top 3 QBs to attract a buyer. of course that’s stupid, you never settle for a lesser QB prospect in the name of picking up some draft picks, especially just to recoup ones you’ve lost. You’re chasing your own tail.
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Chris Simms top QB is Matt Corral and why you should listen
Growl replied to Zod's topic in Carolina Panthers
the only kind of QB that some posters here would want is the kind of QB who goes number 1 overall, not 6 and not wherever the panthers will be picking next season that guy goes 1 and you aren’t going to trade up for him. As recently as yesterday somebody said “wait until next year and then put a package together to move up.” people here may undervalue the position but nfl teams don’t. You arent “putting a package together” to get the kind of player that people here are so irrationally obsessed with waiting for. either this guy elevates his game and is locked in out of the panthers reach or he regresses to the mean and these people won’t want him anyways (I.e. Willis, Howell, Ridder) -
The Pick Should Be Charles Cross or Evan Neal, Period!!!
Growl replied to Matthias's topic in Carolina Panthers
Wow sounds like you’ve really put the research into understanding this issue -
you never settle for a lesser graded talent at that position you do it for OT because a “good” OT is winning you just as many games as a “great” and the extra 1st or 2nd is worth it you never settle for a lesser QB
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A “franchise” left tackle lol
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He can challenge every area of the field with his arm and stretch a defense horizontally with his legs. Guys like that are going to make plays. wouldn’t be surprised if he went to a better organization like Pittsburgh and the posters here fondled themselves while the panthers are dominating TOP on their way to the 12th pick in the draft next season
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lol they better not get jumped for another QB
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the panthers massive and transparent representation at these pro days almost seems smokescreeny, unless they’re just absolutely convinced they have the de facto #1 pick for a QB
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sounds like a perfect fit!
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I can’t think of any faster way to lock the team in nfl purgatory than this right here id honestly just disengage entirely
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forces the panthers to have to find their guy now if they want to be that “that team” in the South post brees (and Brady)
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I mean yeah probably
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hasn’t missed any games in a couple seasons, has been pretty steady throughout his career
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they’re drafting a QB
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Kenny Pickett > Malik Willis (at least for us)
Growl replied to janderson20vt's topic in Carolina Panthers
lol I don’t know how you think evaluations are made, but scouts don’t report to their director with a simple ROCKET ARM: Y or N? scribbled into their notes teams make evaluations on the basis of what a guy can accomplish, and accomplish within a given system (theirs) in terms of arm strength, the question is asked whether or not the prospect in question has demonstrated the ability to effectively and routinely accomplish certain throws, in a certain manner, to certains areas of the field, under certain circumstances if he can, the box is checked Scouting isn’t a bunch of guys sitting around a table mangrunting out the drafttek clichés that form the crux of your entire worldview -
None of these moves matter without our franchise QB
Growl replied to Kraybrothers's topic in Carolina Panthers
Wow grammar badly -
Kenny Pickett > Malik Willis (at least for us)
Growl replied to janderson20vt's topic in Carolina Panthers
Pickett works his way through his reads almost to a fault Jones either knew it was there or put it in the dirt immediately. He probably gave up on plays sooner than he should’ve at times, but then again, that’s the smart thing to do when you’re playing with devonta smith and there’s like a 75% chance of a long touchdown on the next play -
Kenny Pickett > Malik Willis (at least for us)
Growl replied to janderson20vt's topic in Carolina Panthers
oh sorry, I should clarify, I was talking about things that matter. when a quarterback can drive the 5 across his body, when he can hit the 8 falling away, when he can challenge corners on the fade i wasn’t referring to generic terms like “rocket arm” that little brained people (like you) picked up in their Walter football scouting reports i was referring to his ability to check the necessary boxes of things he’ll actually be asked to do as an nfl player please put me back on ignore so I don’t ever have to risk catching one of your word vomit opinions again, or more ideally, go to the team Reddit and talk to people more of your… intellectual caliber…there -
Kenny Pickett > Malik Willis (at least for us)
Growl replied to janderson20vt's topic in Carolina Panthers
I have, almost certainly with a keener eye than you Jones was a high tier processor with exceptional anticipation, probably as good as you’ll ever see coming out, held back by a general lack of raw athletic traits, and the reality that he played with outstanding collegiate talent Pickett is an archetypal build and traits guy who has demonstrated the ability to make every throw but still gets caught holding onto the ball too long, for various reasons, but elevated the team around him, and made unc fans hate him because he beat their amateur program they’re fundamentally different evaluations at their core -
Kenny Pickett > Malik Willis (at least for us)
Growl replied to janderson20vt's topic in Carolina Panthers
I guess if you’re looking at their skin color, sure