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I could see Sean Chandler at safety being cut, he's a liability in coverage and is behind Chinn, Woods, Burris, Hartsfield, and also Franklin who has sub package LB'er ability. Rolling with just two TE's and an H-Back is not something I see them doing, Sullivan offers more than a depth safety at best in Chandler. Just my .02

This was the thought I had, jet sweeps, reverses, hands out of the backfield with some carries, he's 6'1 230, almost the same size as Foreman but with a receiver skillet. Get him the ball in space in the short to intermediate with an opportunity to break a tackle or make a guy miss. Dj Robbie TMJ Shi Laviska Higgins That right there is a nice WR room, all young with + talent and inexpensive. Zylstra been solid but what's the potential...it's limited.

This has probably been said, but I'm not reading all 6 pages lol.... Those other QBs were ''at least'' getting 2nd team reps, ''if not'' also some 1st string reps due to the fact there was only ONE player ahead of them on the depth chart. In the never ending wisdom of Rhule, we decided to SPLIT the 3rd team reps of our 3rd round, traded up for rookie with Rhule's boy from Temple PJ, and wasted his development time even further. THEN we played him behind the freaking 4th string OL backed up in the RZ trying to pass in a meaningless game with under 2 mins left in the pre-season. Just an idiotic decision because they want to try to help PJ catch on somewhere post cuts, and now with Darnold out, he likely sticks, and we see Darnold hit short term IR to start the year. Can't make this poo up.

Jordan Gross and Travelle Wharton...Wharton was the backup LT.

A few notes on the following as denoted in red: I think we are a little to inexperienced at TE, I like Ian and he looked good in his role back in 2018 when filling in for Olsen, a lot is on him right now to shoulder the load. Tommy in year two I expect to improve, but we need a vet for that room, and I'm not against adding a guy like Ebron for depth / experience. I don't think Andre Roberts makes it 'solely' as the returner, Shi Smith has looked good in that role, and seems to have carved himself a place in the offense -- six receivers is enough, can't see a spot for a seventh. I think the writing is on the wall for Brown as he red-shirted last year, and seems to be behind UDFA's like Michael Jordan -- I could see him in favor of Daley a former 6th rounder him self in a slight cap savings move, but it is unlikely as Daley has experience at T / G. _________________________________________________________________________ I set our defense up as a more of a hybrid since we do not run a traditional 4-3, we have a lot of odd fronts, so with that in mind you will see 'Edge' and 'NT / 3T' instead of DE / DT. Luvu is the first one that fits this mold as he plays the 'SLB' or 'Sam' in a 4-3 front, but is also an 'Edge' defender in a 3-4 or other Odd front. So when considering ''Off Ball LB'er'' depth he flexes to that group as needed. Jaycee Horn spent A LOT of time as a 'nickel' defender in the firs three games, and I think most people tend to forget that, with the resurgence seemingly of Henderson, I think we will see more of this. Myles Hartfield also spends a good portion of his time as a 'nickel' DB so I'd anticipate him in this roll as well aside from Safety depth. Burris as a former starter over fringe roster guys like (Chandler / Robinson) seems a better fit, and represents less drop off if he needs to fill in. Sam makes the roster as he can also play sub package LB'er, is one of our best guys on ST's, and has Safety experience as well. ___________________________________________________________________________ Personally I would still like to see more proven players added to the interior DL and Edge position, but I feel very good about our secondary, and honesty our LB'er depth as generally we play 2 at a time in the off-ball position. Receiver, and running back depth is also of quality, and on paper the starting OL looks to be average to above average pending Ickey and BC's growth on the left side. QB for the first time IMO since Cam, has a guy there with ''It'' and not just a ''guy''. I wasn't a Baker homer, and honestly had doubts with him as the #1 overall pick. However you can't knock his resume' it stands up to most starters, and he's clearly an upgrade over the last two full time starters (Teddy / Sam). He took a team that was 1-31 in the two years before him, and helped lead a 7-8-1 season as a rookie, and in his 3rd year got to 11-5 with a playoff win....we haven't had a playoff win since what...2015 as we lost to New Orleans in 2016, didn't make the playoffs in 2017, Cam's arm in 2018, and in 2019 Cam's foot injury. I will pull for Baker, but 7-9 wins is as optimistic as I'll be until we show more on the actual field.

''IF'' we were to do this I wouldn't hate it as another hitter / box defender to help round things out.

It was his brother based on the video, I think people are just tying him to his brother's actions. I dunno the man but what his brother did is some bs.

WR: DJ / Robbie / TMJ / Higgins / Smith / Zylstra I know Roberts was brought in as a KR / PR specialist, but he doesn't offer as much as Smith in the receiving game, and Shi has looked good as a return man. Secondary: Corner - DJ / Horn / Henderson / Taylor / STO / Barnes Safety - Chinn / Woods / Burris / Hartsfield (also plays Nickel) / Franklin (ST's, SS, LB) With the addition of Woods it pushes Burris to depth, and with that no room for Chandler, who was TERRIBLE in coverage. Hartsfield / Franklin stick as they play multiple roles.

Tecklenburg, Barnes, Chandler, Frankllin, Kirkwood, Thompson and Walker. Based on this list: Barnes makes it as a gunner / 5th or 6th corner Chandler over Robinson due to ''Patriots Week'' as the addition of Woods moves Burris to depth and pushes Robinson out. Franklin is ST, LB, and SS depth so he makes it as the 4th / 5th safety depending on how they split DB / S. Kirkwood is cut, and if PS eligible will go there. Thompson is cut. With Corral out of the mix I think we finally see PJ cut with Sam as the backup for a cool 18.8M. IF somehow we find a way to eat salary / move Sam for a lowball pick PJ sticks around.

It wasn't Rhule

You're missing TMJ

WR 1 Money -- 20M Robbie -- 11M He's right where he's supposed to be, we don't have ANYTHING on this roster that steps into a number two role at the moment: TMJ is the only one with that potential, Higgins / Smith are WR 3/4 guys atm. I like Smith's potential, but there is a lot ahead of him, he may not reach it here, but he is solid depth. I see WR fairly early next draft, off-ball LB'er as well.

This sums it up well, Morgan >> Beason >> Davis >> Kuechly -- heck of a last 10+ years'ish Shaq - 100+ tackles in 22' Wilson - 100+ tackles in 22' Luvu - Had one of the better TFL totals on our team in limited snaps Wooten - Former pro-bowler iirc with LAR, picked off Cam in the season opener vs LA back in 2019 ______________________________________________ With Woods, Chinn will ''likely'' see more time in the box, not as a LB'er but as a true box safety to take advantage of his run support, and cover ability on TE's. Then we added Brandon Smith, an athletic profile freak with the prototype size to match, Barno who will spend more time on the edge also increases the overall athleticism of the defense. We may not have that ''one'' guy like we are accustomed to, but the depth / position group talent is in relatively good shape.

You're not gonna give up all that for an offball LBer that wants MARKET RESETTING money. Y'all really be on some poo, wanting to trade Robbie and Sam bahahahaha ok yea who's taking on 18.8M.... It's also why Jimmy is out there, team that trades has to pay almost 23M for ONE season. Teams know they have to release him as he only has 3M in guarantees. People should consider a little more thought when projecting trades.

Nobody is just gonna eat 18M. Not without exhausting resources to move him to a team that has an injury down the road. Everyone knows this is Baker's job.

Vet min for depth, I wouldn't hate it. We could use another big body, and there are only so many cheap options with experience left.

We are not deep enough to talk about releasing a starting receiver. The man had a down year, y'all forgot 2020's production quick AF. He was over 1k.

Ickely / Brown / Bozeman / Corbet/ Moton Let Brady be the swing tackle, Ickey, and Brown on the same side is road grade city.

No way in hell Baker don't start Week 1.

Give me Deonte Brown at LG, and let him and Ickey road grade, throw Tremble over there as well...Outside zone with CMC, and Hubbard with their ability to cut back inside as needed with Freeman to supplement the power game. Brady should be the immediate back up at tackle, the Erving. Daley and Elflein interior depth. Best we can do right now.

You mean healthy, people tend to forget he basically pulled a Cam in 2018 and played well below 100% health. Literally playing QB with ONE arm.

He did, I want to say it was 60 MPH -- https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2018/03/08/josh-allen-baker-mayfield-top-qb-velocity-during-combine-throwing-session/ Dan Shonka Article -- https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-2018-NFL-Combine/10241/dh/ Dan Shonka from Ourlads published the velocity numbers for all the quarterbacks throwing at the combine. Throws to both the left and the right are listed. Allen and Mayfield were the only QBs to hit 60 MPH. It’s not a surprise to see Allen at the top with 62 MPH. His arm strength is his greatest attribute. Mayfield throwing so hard will stun many critics who label his arm weak or inadequate.

It's really sad how MANY shows / media members have this take and push this narrative, it's usually where I tune out anything they have to say as well. People act like we still have Joe Brady, or Matt Rhules roommate as the OC and the offense hasn't changed COMPLETELY. Now if someone had the take that Darnold has a ''headstart'' with the NEW OFFENSE under McAdoo I could at least respect that. But acting like Darnold KNOWS the new offense in comparison to Mayfield is a lazy / uneducated take, and it sucks because no one in the media / ESPN / NFLN etc. even care enough to do that much work. It's just been broad sweeping ''GENERAL'' takes, and any casual fan would also become misinformed. The other thing that is crazy and I've even seen this from Browns fans, they act like he didn't helpw turn that organization around on the field -- they were 1-31 before drafting baker. He went 29/30 in his starts. I'm not a Baker fan, or apologist but it's common sense to see he had a huge impact on that team. People act like OBJ / Landry were some kind of set the world on fire duo, OBJ was coming off an injury, and Landry is a volume receiver underneath primarily. Most people can't even name the other WR's they had (Perryman, Higgins, Peoples-Jones, and Callaway) none are marquee. OBJ / Landry are more names than anything to me, not saying they aren't good, but Moore at this point has proven to be better than OBJ, and I'd take Robbie over Landry when he's the 2019 / 2020 version (1900+ receiving those two years). People also give the defense a ton of praise, but they were ranked off the top of my head in the 20s the year they went to the playoffs. Baker is a clear upgrade to Sam, that simple.

THE Dan Arnold, omg what were we thinking! Perryman is where they screwed up.