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Just now, CRA said:

The load on we placed on Cam’s shoulders IMO was the biggest placed on any QB I have ever seen play in the NFL….

 

For the most part, I agree. But you've got to admit there are, were, QBs that flung the ball all over the yard, because that was all they had on O. I mean, look at Stafford for instance.

But all in all, no QB has  ever been asked to do what Cam was .

15 minutes ago, CRA said:

Only RB drafted in the first round in 2011 was Mark Ingram.  Has played every season.  A bruising runner.   In his career, he has tallied 367 first downs on the ground. 

That is why Cam will always be a unicorn.   Cam is at 400+.  No QB has ever presented the threat Cam did for opposing DCs.  

According to @jayboogieman "Cam was a good QB for the most part during his time here." We can't even get our own fans to appreciate what Cam brought to the table.

30 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

 

 

That was fun. THANKS

15 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

I give them their due when they earn it.

As for missing out, is losing fun? It's hard to be pumped up for a big play when the team loses the game.

It's football. Not life or death. Enjoy it, enjoy the big plays, enjoy the anticipation for the coming thing. Just enjoy the experience. After all. It's only entertainment.

If you get upset over every loss. After 26 years, you'd have an ulcer. Which could explain why so many folks seem, a tad....edgy.

If you find yourself upset over a loss, you may be taking it a tad too cereal. Life is tough enough. Losing a football game barely moves the needle.

I can enjoy the game for what it is. And walk away to get on with my life. Easy peasy.

Oh, and the Huddle is the bomb.

4 minutes ago, frankw said:

Look Cam was not the most prolific passer and most unbiased fans will agree. In his prime he could sling it no problem but what made him an intimidating force were his rushing abilities which were and still are in very rare company historically especially in the red zone. He has the most rushing touchdowns in league history and he is second all time in rushing yards. At his best the man was a human cheat code and he absolutely changed the position and the way teams look at dynamic ability now. Because Cam was not the slam dunk first overall pick in the minds of quite a few analysts and coaches ten years ago. If you ask any of these younger quarterbacks now who also have similar ability they will tell you the impact Newton had on how they wanted to play in college and the pros.

Yessir, Cam defiantly changed how coaches view the QB position. And he was ours. Nobody will ever be able to take that away from us!!!!!

1 hour ago, Madwolf said:

It's not about what the city wants, it's about what the billionaire wants. If he wants a new stadium he'll have no qualms about threatening to leave without a new one until the tax payer coughs the money over for the new digs.

lol So...not a fan huh? Of Tepper in specific? Or Billionaires in general?

2 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

A few good years between and one being mostly good, one mostly above average, and one average is about the same thing because all that matters is 7 winning seasons with zero back to back winning seasons out of all their years here.

Cam did not revolutionize the way teams view QBs. Warren Moon, Steve Young, Steve McNair, and John Elway all played similar styles years before Cam. So does Ben R in Pittsburgh.

Not a ton of yards in through the air, not a ton of TDs, and a pedestrian completion percentage from all three. Not too good. But once again, the only thing that matters is 7 winning seasons out of those 18 years. That's not pretty good either. Have a good night.

Ok, I'm done. You are never going to give ANY Panther QB their due. You probably feel the same way about all other players as well.

It really is too bad you can't see what you are missing. Cuz it is some amazing stuff.

But hey, you can hang your hat on our overall record.

Just an FYI, but PFF has almost 400 employees at the moment. That is all.

2 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

No.  Stop.

In the immortal words of Richard Dreyfuss. "I'm having a really good day", soooooooo ok.

2 hours ago, SBBlue said:

Yeah I'm kind of glad that fad is over.

What about Frozen 2?

4 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Cam was a good QB for the most part during his time here. Jake was above average to fairly good for a while, Steve was average to maybe above average, and all the others were meh at best. That's not downplaying them either. It's giving an honest assessment that you don't agree with.

 

I gave you Cam, Jake, and Steve, and you pood all over them. You said, "There are some ok to a few good years in their stats, but not a lot."

Now, you say this, "Cam was a good QB for the most part during his time here. Jake was above average to fairly good for a while, Steve was average to maybe above average,"

1. Cam revolutionized the way teams view the QB position.

2. Jake was good until Tommy Jone showed up

3. Buerlein was really good until Seifert showed up.

Between the 3 of them, that is basically 18 of our 26 years. I would say we have done pretty goodly for ourselves for the most part. 

1 hour ago, jayboogieman said:

Yep. The Panthers have had a little success, but for the most part the team and QBs haven't. I wish more people would realize that it's ok to admit while still being a fan instead of being a homer all the time.

Yeah, because you are right, and the rest of us are wrong.

Let's just call this like it is. Because the Panthers have never had sustained success, it is the QBs fault. Right?

I mean, it can't be bad coaching, or iffy GMs. It has to be the QBs. lol I guess outside of a few players, all our talent is bottom shelf.

And I would much rather have "Homer Glasses" than downplay every player we have ever had. Optimism > Pessimism (Realism). 

Lastly, picking 3 HOFers to make your point seems fair to me.

3 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

I’ve watched it a million times.  Every. Freakin’. Time.

I don't want to derail the thread. But, since we're on this. I have 2 other guilty pleasures. Cars, and the Wife. lol

22 minutes ago, 1usctrojan said:

 

One of my guilty pleasures.

19 minutes ago, Snake said:

Jackson hasn't really shown her can even be a good #2 yet and after that its even more questions. We are early in a complete rebuild of that unit.

I get it. You are in the, we have very little talent crowd. I'm in the, we have more talent than we have had in quite some time crowd.  

I am optimistic for what this D can accomplish this year. Whereas, you, not so much.

16 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I still believe you're underselling him.  Saying he was just enough to win a game is a big understatement.  He was the most clutch qb we have had in the franchise by far.  Yes Cam was a lot more talented but Jake was who you wanted when the game was on the line.  Even in the super bowl look how he responded when the patriots started moving the ball.  There is a reason his leadership and intangibles are still talked about around the franchise.

It's the Huddle. There is always going to be someone around to tell you how wrong you are. Tune them out, and enjoy the rest.

Just stick to your guns. And never give up, never surrender. lol

By the by. Jake was one of the best, until Tommy Jone showed up and ruined everything.

YEA, no dome. Now THAT'S some hard hitting football news. It may not be black helmet skrong But it is right up there.

9 minutes ago, Snake said:

I would say we have one quality starter and he's a rookie. 

 Ok then. I believe you are underestimating. But have at it

11 hours ago, Snake said:

Honestly I think we need another draft and FA to really have a shot. I mean in a perfect world everything works out and we make it but we are still pretty thin at OL and CB. Even after we spent two draft picks at CB. Darnald I feel will have his growing pains. I mean even Tom Brady had growing pains learning a new system. It won't be plug in play like Teddy was. Darnald will be in a entire different system.

As to CB. We have 3 quality starters. and 2 more that were here last year. I wouldn't call that thin.

As for the line. We added 5 guys that may push for significant playing time. There is a reasonable chance our line is improved over last year.

As to Sam. He is smart and talented. Brady appears to be a competent coach. Maybe, just maybe Sam, as a 3yr vet, gets it. 

So, for me, there is some optimism to be gleaned from this.

4 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

One winning season with Steve, three with Jake, and three with Cam. Despite individual records, that is more bad than good since QB is such a huge part of the NFL.

You said bad QB play. Now you are adding qualifiers. I think the bad, has clouded your memory of the good.

Jake gad 5 good years before Tommy Jone took him.

Steve had 5 good years.

Cam had 6 before the wheels started falling off.

That is still 16 years of good QB play.

Just now, jayboogieman said:

All that because you said there was a lengthy list of failed QBs with potential. That list proves there is not a lengthy list or a lot of potential. The QB situation here has always been more bad than good.

Now see, I don;t think that is totally true, Sure we have had our share of stinkers. But we've had 3 solid starters that take up the vast majority of or starts. Jake-7yrs, Cam-10yrs, Buerlein-5yrs.

So it is not all doom and gloom

8 minutes ago, frankw said:

All this because I used the word potential? We have a history of failed quarterbacks that isn't a contentious statement. Since the team was awarded a franchise only two stand out. Delhomme and Newton. That's a lot of failure in between for a franchise that has only been around since '95.

What about Buerlein? He had a fairly successful run while he was here. But yeah, we have had our fair share of clunkers around here.

Jake = 7 years

Cam - 10 years

Buerlein - 5 years

That is 22 years, give or take. I would say that we did pretty well for the most part. But those lean years in between were real stinkers I tell ya what.

15 minutes ago, saX man said:

This is where I think Tremble surprises.  I just have a good feeling about the dude.  I don't believe Rhule picked a TE in the 3rd to just be this adaptable blocker.

I've seen video from OTAs where he looked smooth, with soft hands, I would say he has a shot at catching some balls this year.

Now this thread has potential

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Odd since you post in a perpetual rage at everything. 

You really are a marvel of complete lack of self awareness. Or is this some ironic troll? If so, bravo. 

I love it. You just can't help yourself. You keep coming back time after time. Do you truly believe you affect me? lol

You do notice that I don't quote you? But here we are. You continue to return to me like a cat I fed once. lol @ u

4 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Lets just say my fanhood is much more of a healthy hobby now compared to my literal die-hard days.

Oh yeah. I'm more into the entertainment aspect anymore. Too much going on to waste energy getting all kerfuffled over sports, or a sports board.

Although, there are days every now and then, when Ill get a bit frisky.