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2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Nolen feels like a big reach but his potential is ridiculous.

I dont see how he is any more of a potential pick than Jalon Walker 

We have reached the draft fatigue stage. I saw similar pieces on Tet. These analysts always find a few polarizing players and either hype them up or tear them down.

15 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

yeah maybe that wrist injury he had was the problem (side note: did he ever get the surgery?). 

He did not. 

1 hour ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I guess that's one way to stay out of jail? He probably wouldn't have had to serve any time too.

He wasn't even facing much time; the maximum for negligent homicide is five years. It's possible he might have received no jail time. That said, we don’t know what he was dealing with or feeling, and it seems weird to speculate.

I mean I would go because when would I ever get to do this again?

3 hours ago, Basbear said:

Carter to 3, would cause the trade calls to light up. I don't see giants and Carter a match. They already have too much invested at edge. 

 

The gamblers called this days ago. 

 

It still feels like ward, Carter, and hunter will be the first 3 picks. 

if Sanders makes it past 3 its going to get weird..

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

 

especially when you have a group of "individuals" threatening to kill you and your response is " Im Michael Jeffrey Jordan, you cannot kill me!! ". Mob....errrraA tax collectors- " I guess that's true, so what about your family?? "

He also had insane debts at casinos, he had to sell Jumpman stock to pay off a couple of them. Lots of bad investments that were gambles as well....

debt like bruno mars?

The kid is a good run defender already, his pass rush needs work but he has the tools and a few games where you saw what could be in the NFL. if we drafted him he would be one of the best players on the d-line tomorrow but that's a low low bar. 

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

This is something I have been repeatedly trying to warn Panther fans of. This is gonna be a pretty bad team next season.

The W's and L's are going to matter less(to a point) than if we start to look like the bones of a functional roster emerge. 

There is no quick fix coming. This is going to take time and a healthy dose of competent roster building to turn around.

No one is looking for super bowls we just want more wins than last season. if you won 5 games with worse defense in NFL history, you should win 6-7 with a bad defense and sometimes you get luckily. 

this feels realistic  

17 hours ago, Basbear said:

He is and was, but he'd be worth two billion instead of just one....

Im honest in saying the public doesn't know or realize the amount of cash he has lost gambling. There's a nasty rumor that brings it to some understanding. Along with if you believe he just woke up and was like " I think I can hit that single A curve ball " rather than make 30 million per. It's almost like he was forced....

 

Nike saved his financial career with the Jumpman brand, which I have a question- Does the youth care about Jumpman in 2025? 

its really no telling the stories of his poker and golf games are legendary. the behind the scenes stuff has to be much much worse

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

Jordan would have been worth over 2 billion if not for his gambling. 

Im pretty sure he is a billionaire now but he wasn't when he first bought the bobcats/hornets and mostly bought their debt and some skittles

41 minutes ago, scpanther22 said:

Really wish their was more awareness around how very rich people make money...its almost never "hard work and fortitude" its taking advantage of people and institutions 

its almost impossible to be a billionaire without leaving a trail of bodies in your wake. capitalism demands a few winners and a ton of losers

42 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I don't think anyone that was realistic thought that he could afford the team. Just imagine if he had swung it, the Panthers would be looking for a new owner right now.

what a wild time that would have been, we complain about Tepper but that would have been crazy

Owning a sports team is now a billionaire’s toy now. The days of Michael Jordan or a Jeanie Buss owning teams are long gone.
 

I remember when people thought Diddy could afford to buy the Panthers, he would have had to sell everything he owned just to cover the $750 million needed to own only 30% of the team.

I remember how upset everyone was that we didnt take Simmons, I think im good on him but he does give me a bit of pause on Walker

its no way they are worse, they moved from being the worse defense in the history of the NFL to being like 20th. 

I think it’s important to understand that scouting players is extremely difficult, and even the best scouts miss as much as they succeed. These scouts are looking for traits and using that, along with interviews, pro days, and combines, to try to paint a picture of a player who could be successful in the NFL. However, that doesn’t guarantee success it’s not an exact science 

Yeah, Steve thought Mingo was going to be a player, and he turned out to be a bum. That’s just how it goes

13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The Bengals are currently in negotiations with Hendrickson.  If they do, over 50% of their cap will go to 4 players.

How is this a sustainable business model? The only way it works is if the Bengals hit on every single draft pick and they’ve already shown us they can’t do that.

13 hours ago, jfra78 said:

"Schultz via NFL News] Bengals WRs Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins exclusively tell me they’ve agreed to contract extensions with the team. 4-years, $161M with $112M guaranteed for Chase — making him the highest-paid non-QB in NFL history. 4-years, $115M with the first two years guaranteed for Tee."

That's crazy

Tee left so much money on the table, it’s crazy. Chase and Burrow didn’t leave any crumbs, so why did he?

Horn may not be the best corner in the league, but he is the best corner we have. If you are even close to being one of the best, teams are going to pay you like you are. The 49ers have a similar situation with Purdy. The Panthers were never going to get Horn for a bargain, that's not how the NFL works. If we hadn't paid him, I guarantee another team would have offered Horn $25 million or more, just like the Giants had no problem paying Burns $30 million.

It is what it is

The strategy does not change, no matter how many free agents you bring in. you draft the best player available no matter where that takes you.

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

in a historically good rb draft we are signing vets for this?  Doesnt compute

They already said they wanted to assemble a complete team so they could draft the best player available. Maybe that’s a running back, maybe it’s not.

It was time, this draft is deep with running backs. He was older, expensive and a disappointment 

It just doesn’t make sense.

16 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

I still think our entire scouting department is one of our bigger issues. Until we consistently nail a couple of drafts, the GM is getting bad advice from somewhere. Whether it's Hurney, Gettleman, Fitterer, or Morgan...I'm tired of hoping to come out of drafts with 2 guys. 

Most teams fail at the draft, it’s largely a crapshoot. For every team that drafts as well as the Rams last year, there are 29 others struggling to find even one rosterable players. A successful draft rate over five years is around 30%, meaning that hitting on just two out of seven picks would make you one of the most best GMs in the league. 

I think fans set their expectations too high for results that are pretty unlikely.

draft the best player no matter where that takes you. if its tyler warren its tyler warren