CPantherKing

You act like it takes forever to review 32 plays for a single player. Took 10 minutes. I could say Ickey struggled against Hendrickson causing several problems for PJ and ending drives in the first half, and had his success in garbage time against back-ups, but people would just push that aside and think he was one of the better OTs in the NFL with his pass blocking. So, I just put his plays out there. They can argue with the plays and Hendrickson's success against Ickey. Ickey can be an all pro guard. He is not even in the top 20 of LTs in the NFL.

1st pass play. Hendrickson comes around Ickey to make the stop from behind the screen pass. 1st down if Ickey stays with his block. Result is a punt. 2nd pass play. Roll out. Ickey doesn't have to pass block from LT position. 3rd pass play. Ickey is beat bad by Hendrickson and PJ has to twist and turn to get away from the sack. He escapes the pocket and throws an incomplete pass with the timing route messed up due to Ickey. Result punt. 4th pass play. Ickey get beat bad to his inside on a stunt letting Hendrickson get leverage on BC and in the face of PJ. Slow to pick up the stunt on the DT. Result is no passing lane for PJ and a quick check down under pressure to Blackshear. 5th pass play. Swing pass. No pass blocking necessary. 6th pass play. Double team with BC on one defender. No pass rush. 7th pass play. 1st good block with a pass set. 8th pass play: WR screen. Ickey makes the wrong read and goes after the wrong defender. Ickeys defender has a free run at PJ and PJ rushes the screen pass. Incomplete. 9th pass play: Hendrickson stunts inside beating Ickey bad. Hendrickson blows up the pocket and pressures PJ to step up in the pocket and scramble for a 6 yard gain. 10th pass play: Hendrickson whips around the outside of Ickey. Ickey lunges for air. Hendrickson levels PJ, but PJ gets the ball away to throw it out of bounds and not take the sack. Result is another punt on back to back horrible plays by Ickey. 11th pass play: Ickey with a good kick step and protects PJs blind side for a completed 3 yard pass. 12th pass play: Ickey with a good set and block on the pass with a straight 4 man rush. --- End of PJ --- 3 good - 3 neutral - 6 bad 13th pass play: Ickey has no rusher. Blocks down on BCs defender. 14th pass play: Ickey gets put on skates and bull rushed into Mayfield's lap. Mayfield get the pass off before Mayfield has to dodge Ickey. 15th pass play: Ickey with a good block on a quick out. 16th pass play: Ickey is put on skates being bull rushed into Mayfield. BC saves Ickey on a quick check down by Mayfield. 17th pass play: Ickey stops Hendrickson for the 1st time with a good punch. 18th pass play: Ickey pass sets well and stones his Hendrickson giving Mayfield the time to throw the first TD of the game. 7-35 3Q 19th pass play: Ickey with a good punch on the DT from the inside. Hendrickson dropped into coverage. 20th pass play: Ickey is tricked by Hendrickson to set wide. Hendrickson beats Ickey inside and levels Mayfield. Mayfield throws the ball up and it falls incomplete. Results in a punt. --- backups come in to play for the Bengals going into the 4th quarter --- 3 good - 2 neutral - 3 bad 21st pass play: Ickey with a good set and stops his pass rusher. 22nd pass play: Ickey with a good kick step and stops his pass rusher. 23rd pass play: Ickey with a good set and stops the backup pass rusher. 24th pass play: Ickey picks up the stunt. 25th pass play: Defender drops into coverage. Ickey blocks down on DT. 26th pass play: Ickey locks up his defender on a screen pass. 27th pass play: Good pass set. Stops pass rusher. 28th pass play: Good pass set. Pass rusher does not try to rush. 29th pass play: Good kick step. Pass rusher is hesitant to make a move. 30th pass play: Slow pass set. Poor pass rush. No pressure from rusher. 31st pass play: Ickey sets too wide and gets beat inside. BC bails him out with his defender in Mayfield's face during the pass. 32nd pass play: OL fires off the line near the GL. No pass set. Quick pass. --- end of game --- 9 good - 2 neutral - 1 bad When it matters; 6 good - 5 neutral - 9 bad. Hendrickson had his way with Ickey. Add in garbage time v back-ups; 15 good - 7 neutral - 10 bad. Ickey pads his play against 3rd team DE. You are welcome. Ickey struggled when it mattered and cost the Panthers a few drives. Opinion unchanged. He is an all pro guard and sucks against NFL speed rushers at OT.

Nick Foles 2017; Joe Flacco 2012; Brad Johnson 2002; Then Dilfer in 2000.

Mayfield gets to play easy pitch and catch football

Burns does not look like a true NFL leader on that sideline

Please tell me we are not going to have fans who back Fitt for 3 seasons while blaming Rhule for the problems on the roster for those 3 seasons.

Can we agree Fitt doesn't know how to build a roster?

Horn demonstrating his inability to stop the run. Not at all worth a top 10 draft pick.

Yeah. He is sick of playing football.

Where is Delhomme when you need him to come in for the 2nd half after being blown out in the 1st half?

Brown tired and needs a long rest

Why is Hartsfield still on the field? Is everyone else worse than him?

If Mayfield can't succeed against this Bengals umbrella defense with a huge lead, then he will never start again in the NFL.

Will the Bengals even try to bring pressure on Mayfield or just let him take the underneath passes and eat up clock for them?

Mayfield still playing like he has CMC on the field

Bengals giving up the underneath. Now is the time to see if a Panthers WR is a playmaker. Not going to get easier than this ever in the NFL.

Sorry Mayfield. Foreman is not CMC. Stone hands.

Can we agree YGM should not be starting in the NFL?

Trading CMC has ensured that the Panthers will not get a good offensive minded HC candidate. Only hope to get Leftwich is to keep Wilks as DC and give him the personnel to run an NFL defense and not this college speed defensive roster.

Fitt was bad under Rhule and proving he is much worse without Rhule.

Great? I could find a few QBs on the street right now better than Mayfield, Darnold, and Walker. Needless to say the receivers are much worse than the QBs. A good QB would struggle with these receivers and want them replaced with DJ Moore as a #2 or #3 WR.

PJ has never had anything to lose. He is below average. This shows you just how bad the WRs and TEs are on this team. They can't step up to get open, fight for their QB, and make plays to change a game.

DJ ran a lazy route and did not fight for the ball. Just watched it. Not even like DJ expected to get the ball. We need a WR who can play big and bail out his QB while carrying the offense when it struggles. DJ hasn't been the answer for 5 seasons and he won't be the answer going into the downside of his career.

This is proving DJ Moore is not much of a factor for an offense no matter who is at QB. DJ is at best a good #2 who needs playmakers around him to look good.

PJ is a below average QB. Stop acting like he should be an NFL franchise QB. The bigger story is PJ is trying to carry the skill positions with RBs who can't break open plays even with a good OL. Moore, Marshall, Tremble, Thomas are not doing anything to take care of PJ. If PJ is bad, the receivers are much worse.