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Top 20 starters? What division would he be the 3rd best QB in? Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, Daniel Jones, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence, Drake Maye, DeShaun Watson, and Gardner Minshew are the bottom of the league starters for their divisions to start 2024. Young is better than Minshew. Young is easily 30 at best. There will be rookie QBs better than Young in 2025. Young is trying to edge out back up QBs in 2025 like Cooper Rush, Jameis Winston, and Andy Dalton. Can you give me a key area of a QBs game that he has at least established consistency - nevermind improvement relative to the league? TO% over a few games is all I see, and that will have to be greater over the course of 10+ games to matter.
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Don't point out his 3rd down splits, 1st down passing production, redzone efficiency, passer rating, opening drives and clutch 4th down drives. I'm learning about these new stat categories of 'moral victory drives', 'dealing touches', and 'improvement rating'. Can you help me find these categories and where Bryce ranks? I feel we're in for at least 2 more 3 to 5 win seasons of this stan riding at the QB position. Apparently everyone is holding an "improving" Young back, and apparently the common factor of Young isn't holding everyone else back.
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Panthers vs Eagles official thread
CPantherKing replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Thielen ran an amazing route to be open on 4th down. Young throws it late, short and behind on a drag route. Ekwonu with an illegal block. Then we also have XL with a huge drop. All 1st round offensive picks cost the Panthers in the clutch. The old undrafted free agent is the only clutch player of the bunch. Disappointing to say the least. How many 5 win or less seasons do you need until you realize Young & Ekwonu are huge 1st round disappointments? Canales' offense is getting receivers open. Need a QB, RB, and LT who can consistently win in the clutch. Add WR to the list when Thielen is gone. -
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Eagles game plan has been to run clock, pressure Young to make mistakes, and pass on Evero's soft 34 umbrella with come back routes/Hurts runs. Eagles have full control of this game. Challenging Young to win consistently -
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Ugly offense in the clutch. Young will get another chance, but who has hope he'll show signs of being a franchise QB and not a game managing place holder? -
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I think you mean getting a ball tipped at line and air mailing an INT for a huge mistake. That's 11% of his completions. Hurts has the better passer efficiency in this game so far. Where is this "dealing" metric? -
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Seeing Young followed by Hurts, you can see what a championship game QB v a pick up game QB looks like. As long as Young is having fun and smiling, too many Panthers fans are going to celebrate and settle. -
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They're suppose to -
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Was a TD, but the call stands without conclusive camera angle -
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Young still cant look off a safety? He just keeps reverting to a college QB Flash with zero consistency on pro QB fundamentals and responsibilities. -
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You'd do the same if you were aware of Young's inability to get 1st downs, horrible 3rd down efficiency, and bottom of the league passer rating. Flash will never make a franchise QB. Consistency, clutch & control are the priority for an NFL QB. Young's key stats can't be debated. -
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Drafting projects in the 1st 3 rounds will never be acceptable to me. Flashbacks to the Biakabatuka project -
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Hospital floater. Didn't look off safety. This isn't college -
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Young can't beat the DL on naked bootlegs -
You're correct. He shows flashes. Maybe 1 play every 4 to 5 drives. If you were a coaching staff facing a QB who only passes for a TD on 15% of their drives, completes less than 60% of his passes, and has a redzone TD% of less than 25% while getting to the redzone 30% of their drives, what's your game plan?