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Everything posted by WOW!!
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In the 2nd or 3rd round with a different coaching staff.. I can accept a Strong or Wills..
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Thank you I'm glad it doesn't matter to you who we pick..
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Sorry my guy .. It shouldn't take 5 years.. And reality is most top 15 picks don't..
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Jmo I think you can do both.. You can pick 2 Olinemen in this draft and sign a vet and have a real competition in TC.. I think we need Starters and quality depth.. Just my opinion..
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I think we're past the either or situation.. For the Oline it's time for a this and that attitude for fixing it.
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You can do both.. Actually doing both might be the best option any way .. We don't just need 1 Oline position.. Attack the problem in the draft and FA.
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And Ppl need to get past this Sam isn't going to be here thing. If Rhule is here Sam is going to and needs to be here.. If you hire a new Coach Sam will probably still be here.. Them picking up that 5th year option made that a fact.. No matter what you hope for.. Sam is going into TC as the presumptive starter the only question is who's the coach and who's his competition.. But if Rhule is here he has already brought Sam back and has already talk himself in Starting Sam next season.. Which is the best situation for us long term if Rhule gets another season.. Either he fixes his mess with the QB he wanted or hes fired next season and the next coach isn't handicapped with Rhule QB decision..
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So this opinion is based on "hey this might not be the year to find a franchise QB" .. "But every year there is atleast one"?? How is this a strong draft strategy?? Example.. You have six pots in front of you 5 have poison snakes in them.. Now you don't have to play the game at all.. You can go buy another pot entirely that fits another need.. What would you rather do?? Play the game find the pot with no snakes or just go get another pot that fits just as important need??
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Kyler Murray... Was a 1 year starter Pickett is a 4 year starter.. Opportunity equal production difference. Kyler is younger and way more talented then Pickett is now.. Plus the big difference.. Kyler fell into the perfect situation.. His college coach had the 1st pick in the draft.. Add context before Googling names..
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He has to.. If I'm Tepper.. You can't afford to pay another 20 million to play somewhere else while letting this coach make another QB position.. If he keeps his job he has to make it work with Sam or Cam.. But it is completely stupid to let him use another Assets on another QB decision..
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Are you following me to different thread to agree to disagree?? At this point its stops being a coincidence..lmao So now you're trying to make a point that BPA isn't always the higher rated player.. Okay... And Ppl take QB who aren't the higher rated player.. Okay this is true.. But Context... Aren't thoes Players are usually rated higher the Pickett are better athletes with a better draft profile in better QB draft classes..
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Herbert is bigger stronger faster. With a elite arm.. Don't let youtube fool you. Please.
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/kenny-pickett-1.html So ppl can see this and quantify what you said is progression.. From his freshman season.. 12 -6 Td to ints 13-9 13-9 Then the big season.. And Unlike other QB you named he was the starting QB most of those seasons.. Definition of 1 year wonder.. 4 years of playing time and opportunity only 1 year of elite to good play.. The question was I guess highly rated QB who rated higher then other position but weren't number 1 overall picks.. But if you want to talk about.. All these guys were better prospect then Pickett.. All are rated higher as prospect then Pickett.. All had better College production then Pickett all are safer prospects then Pickett.. Pickett at this point is the tallest midget.. He might be the best prospect in a bad QB draft.. And that isn't even Consensus.. That should be a scary pick..
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-allen-7.html 2 years of production.. And look at the numbers .. 1st good year was 28-15with 7 rushing td. His down year after that was less games played 16 -6 and 5 rushing tds.. Now compare that to Picketts 1st 4 season.. Is it the same situation..
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Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Deshaun Watson, Justin Herbert.. Weren't top overall picks in Good QB draft that were rated higher then other prospects in other position..
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Mac jones Sophomore season where he started half the season was 14tds and 2 ints .. Then he blew up next year .. That a path of progression you can see.. Not the same as Pickett.. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/mac-jones-1.html
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Wrong ... Tervour lawrance, Andrew Luck, Peyton manning and many others were thought as can't miss prospect.. Better then other prospects at other position.. Yes it happens...
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1. Cam .. Was productive at Blinn.. And a national championship.. 2. Josh Allen .. Younger way more physical talent and 2 years of production.. He had a good year and a down year when he lost his surrounding cast.. Not the same situation https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/josh-allen-7.html 3. Kyler Murray- Younger way more talented only got 1 year to start.. And special situation was he got drafted by his college coach.. The most comparable situation is Burrows.. And again his situation isn't 1 the works out for the most part.. So the question is again .. Is Pickett really a prospect worth taking a risk strategy on that rarely works out..
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I'm doing the same thing.. And most scout has this as a down QB draft.. Most scouts say the same thing about all the QB in this draft.. "I wouldn't draft him high but "desperate QB teams will probably pick him" .. This statement is a red flag . Read between the lines.. Look at the prospect and compare him to others.. Compare the class.. He isn't a good prospect unless you're desperate..
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Name me a few??
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Good point.. Every position has bust picks. But the question is .. What is the best way to avoid making a bust pick?? Pick the lesser prospect with less production in college and less talent at his position.. Or Pick the higher rated prospect (by all scouts) with years of college production and a day 1 starter .
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Here come the excuses.. If you have to talk yourself into a prospect and come up with reason why he isn't a "no questions" 1st round talent.. Why make him a top 5- 15 pick?? Clausen, had great mechanics.. Let that sit on your soul when using that as a point..
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Name me another few QB's other then Burrows.. Where that was a winning strategy then I'll shut up.. Don't worry I'll wait.. But facts are Will Grier was a better Prospect coming out and had more years of college production and he was barely a 3rd round pick..
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Absolutely NO!! If we can't get a trade down let's Atleast get a day 1 start talent at a position of need. Before we go a day without a pick..
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Yes let's name the 1 example where that worked out. By the same reasoning let's draft a 6th round QB and hope we get Tom Brady... Reality check.. Will Grier had a better college career then Pickett..