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  1. On 11/8/2022 at 7:47 AM, theinstrumental said:

    Guys, he is an exceptional pass rusher and he is 24 years old, let's stop complaining about the imperfections in his game. He's worth paying. (If you're not going to trade him, which they obviously should have done.)

    I think some people are missing the point here... it's not that he isn't talented, it's the fact that the Panthers were offered 2 first round picks and a second round pick. That's other teams OVER valuing Burns RIGHT NOW as if he's an all-world DE. He may very well become that, but he's not there YET and the Panthers NEED those first round picks! Heck, even the second round pick. Panthers should have taken the deal. Was a crazy good deal!!

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  2. On 11/7/2022 at 7:18 PM, mc52beast said:

    I don’t see where Burns has earned a payday like many think we will have to give him. He gets handled in the run game and often misses easy TFL’s. 
     

    Unlike guys like Peppers, Luke, TD and others who would put the D on their back and take over games I can’t remember talking much about Burns ever taking over games. Am I wrong?

    You're not wrong AT ALL! This is what I have said as well. Burns is not a game changer, someone who changes the momentum. At least not to this point. During Peppers rookie season the Panthers were pretty bad. Panthers had Rodney Pete as the starting QB and finished 1-16 the year before. Peppers had an IMMEDIATE impact, he had 12 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, 1 interception, and was awarded rookie of the year. You could tell from the get go that he was a true impact player. Was John Fox's first year and the Panthers improved to 7-9.

    Now I get it... Peppers was a generational talent. But, for a team to offer two firsts and a second rounder... that's almost saying Burns is the same thing. I'm sorry but I just don't see Burns impacting that much on the defensive side of the ball. I'm not saying he's bad... he gets in on a lot of plays. I just need to see WAY more disruptiveness with him. All that speed has a weight trade off. I think he needs to gain about 15-20 more pounds, then maybe we'll see that. the potential is there. Problem is... BIG dudes are fast too in the NFL.

    I think the Panthers should have taken the bait, but maybe Burns will become THAT player... I sure hope so. I like Brian Burns!!

  3. 5 hours ago, Killah_Ray said:

    If we're gonna argue about the refs, the Falcons have a legit complaint that it probably should've never went to OT with that pass interference missed call right before the end of the 4th...

    Ummm, go back and watch the Damiere Byrd play where he took it to the house. The left guard for Atlanta moved early. Then, on the same play watch the obvious hold on Brian Burns and the hold downfield on Keith Taylor by Number 5 by Atlanta. MULTIPLE no calls on that one play. That TD should not have even happened based on the false start alone. I can do this all day, but, you're right, it should have never went to OT and we all really know why. By the way, who was penalized more in this game?

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  4. 3 hours ago, Snake said:

    It's time to listen to reasonable offers and totally rebuild this team. 

    I wouldn't say that yet... if he plays like this and PJ continues to improve, this team might surprise us. We've just been a QB away from being a decent team. Despite the loss, PJ played his ass off... more than serviceable if you ask me. The defense allowed to much in the running game and needs to get the QB down a little more. Kicking game lost this game. The PJ to DJ connection could become a real good thing for this team... lets just give it a few more games before we burn it all down. This team seems to be playing with purpose now.

  5. 3 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

    I don’t have the game recorded but I swear in the first half a DT took his helmet off ON the field after making a play and no penalty. 

    I don't understand the rule... if the play is over after refs have blown the whistle or after a TD, what does it even matter? Risk of fights maybe?

  6. 8 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

    It was definitely a penalty.  People saying he took his helmet off off the field of play are right technically he was in the back of the endzone but then he instantly came back on the field without his helmet on.

    I get it TECHNICALLY... but the league needs to understand that this is the NFL with grown ass men. And, plays like this do not happen very often... how can Moore not be very emotional, who wouldn't be? I think the NFL should make some of these instances judgement calls. If you are up by 21 points and do that, yes, I understand the call. But, this was a game winning catch in the final seconds of the game, let those guys enjoy the moment.

    That being said, I do wish DJ had not jumped up on the wall... you ARE in Atlanta, not at home. Of course it's going to get the refs attention. I get it that the rules are the rules, but a call like that should not be able to affect the outcome of the game. Maybe penalize the call during the kickoff, not the XP. IDK, it's not a perfect world, whatever... just sucks how we lost today. One of most heartbreaking I can remember in a while. Panthers had 1st place IN THE BAG!

  7. 7 minutes ago, w280sax said:

    Terry McLaurin just caught a bomb down to the 1 at the end of their game and took his helmet off in the middle of the field to celebrate.  All good.

    Not sure why. There was a timeout called and his wasn't a td.  When is this a penalty in the rulebook?

    Well, I do put a small amount of blame on Moore... they have to keep their emotions in check, especially on the road. Go back to the sideline and celebrate. At the same time, give me a break refs... you saw that play, how could Moore NOT be emotional. Makes the kick a 48 yarder, should penalize during the kickoff not the extra point. It sucks because it makes you feel like this team is just snake bitten. Panthers should have won this damn game.

     

  8. 1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

    No, he might not be an all pro.  He might not be a pro bowler.  He might not be elite.  But he is a fuging gamer and a damn good football player.  

    He struggled early, but when it mattered he fuging stepped up and killed it.  Ultimately, we arent in that game at all without PJ.  I know some are going to hate him no matter what, but right now, he's the best we have, and again, I see him in the same mold as a guy like Case Keenum or Heinicke, maybe even a Jake Delhomme in regards to his underdog origins, but only with a hell of a lot more natural talent with his arm and legs.  He might not be the guy you want, but again, he is a hell of a football player.  And when he is on, it is fuging fun to watch.  

    Thank you for stepping up, PJ.  You have at least made us competitive and make a season that felt completely lost and hopeless fun to watch again.  Keep Pounding, baby!

    Just wish we had that clutch gene with our freaking kicker.

  9. I just watched the highlights... how the hell did we lose this game? Why do refs just HAVE to throw the damn flag during an obvious emotional TD? Can they NOT just let these guys play? Was the flag on Moore for jumping on the wall? WTF? 

    And why is the kicking game ALWAYS haunting this team? Panthers should NOT have lost this game!! GRRRRR!!!!

  10. On 10/28/2022 at 4:56 AM, UpstatePantherfan said:

    I will say that this upcoming game IS our season and will dictate how the rest of the season goes. I will say that the Bucs look like the worst team in the league right now or damn near close to it, so I’m not as impressed by our win against them as I initially was, and the Saints might be 2nd worst and we beat them with a mediocre QB that also had a broken back.

    Last week against the Bucs you could tell the Panthers were playing with a “fug it, nothing to lose, let’s have fun” type mentality. 
     

    This Sunday against the falcons will be a GIGANTIC test to see how they do when the stakes are high and are actually playing for something with the pressure turned to 10. How do they handle the success of beating out the Bucs? How do they handle the high pressure situation of winning to get 1st place? Also, how will we do now that the falcons have tape on both PJ and the kind of offense we run without CMC?! 

    This pretty much sums it up. Very well put bud!!

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