Dragoon11

We've had what you could call 2 decent QB's the entire franchise history. Generational QB's do not grow on trees. You draft, and most of the time it's a crapshoot whether they work out or not. Unfortunately, a lot of times you just get lucky, or not. The two other QB's have only played two games as well, let's see what they look like 10 weeks from now, Young as well... before we label him as a bust. Saying the other two have shown potential is saying nothing. Young has shown potential too... it's all subjective.

Prevent defense is only prevent to the red zone. Then the field is small and you have to earn your money. Panthers were still very much in it at that point. I think there was like four and a half minutes left but the defense could not sustain. He looked the part on that drive.

And I think that is what Young is doing. I think he IS a very cerebral QB that you can tell is trying to absorb it all and it is a bit overwhelming. OF COURSE it is! But, I have a feeling that this kid is not sitting on his laurels. I'll guarantee you he is working, watching film, and consuming as much knowledge as he can. Stroud and AR might be doing better for now. But, NFL defenses WILL adjust and find their weaknesses... they watch film too. I would rather Young make mistakes right now because he is processing at the pace he needs, then suddenly, you just see it happen. It kind of happened with Lawrence last year. People need to just chill... all players develop and grow differently. We cannot expect a rookie QB with an all new coaching staff to be an all pro his rookie season, it's just nonsense what is being said. It's not a good look for our fanbase.

Bullcrap!!! I don't see ONE freaking player on that offense that can take a 5 yard slant and turn it into a 75 yard TD. Shenault did it ONE time last year. How old is Theilen now? And he has always just been a 3rd down possession/red zone guy, not a home run hitter. He showed what he is tonight. And like you said, Hayden Hurst has been MODERATE. Chark had 1 season where he looked like he may be THAT guy and since has done nothing. Who else do we have that NFL defenses just fear? NO ONE!! Sanders... potential, but NO CMC, TMJ? lol. We need to give Young time. Time to gel with his receiving corps and time for players to hopefully emerge.

Really? I've seen plenty of zip in his throws. More than enough to be a great QB in this league. The kid is processing and learning at a level that works for him. He's adjusting to the speed of NFL players, which EVERY rookie QB has problems with. Going from college to the NFL is a difficult transition. He has to learn a way more complicated playbook, learn to gel and bond with new teammates and coaches, has to build chemistry with his skilled offensive players (in which we're not seeing ANY that want that next level), has to learn to adjust at the line of scrimmage (understanding NFL defensive schemes) in a way you do not in college, and so much more... Damn, you all act like this stuff should be easy. Every part of our team right now is brand new and for EVERYONE on the team. How about we give it a season (you know, the way people did when we didn't live in an instant gratification world, full of ADD people and keyboard expert analysts) before we completely write this kid off as a bust. Jeez.. SERIOUS, we're two freaking games in. I bet you that this kid gets better as the season progresses. And, by the end of the season everyone will be singing a different tune. If not, I'll say I'm wrong and we'll see what next season brings. Trevor Lawrence looked like trash for a while... he looks pretty good now. How is that possible? Don't you think we should be rooting for this guy instead of writing him off after two weeks in an NFL uniform? What kind of fan base is this? Did everyone think this would be a playoff year? SMH!

The coaching staff is playing too carefully. They need to open the playbook and see what the kid can do. It seems like they are giving him training wheels and trying to develop him too conservatively a little at a time.

Yeah, we'll see how that pans out over 17. lol

Because Cam was in a league of his own. AR nowhere near what Cam was.

Yeah, before Carolina got a team I was a Cowboys fan. Look at Dallas in the 90's when they built their dynasty. Troy Aikman started his first season and they went 1-15 I think. Aikman played his first NFL preseason game on August 26, 1989 against the Denver Broncos. His NFL debut started with a 28–0 loss to the New Orleans Saints. The following week, Aikman threw his first touchdown pass, a 65-yard completion to Michael Irvin, but the Atlanta Falcons intercepted two passes and won. In a game against the Phoenix Cardinals, he threw for 379 yards to set an NFL rookie record. Aikman finished 1989 with a 0–11 record as a starter, completing 155 of 293 passes for 1,749 yards, 9 touchdowns, and 18 interceptions. Pretty rough first year as a rookie, right? But, we know what happened each year after. I know we live in a world of instant gratification, but sometimes we need to be realistic. So, everyone just take a collective sigh and lets see how the season plays out. Hopefully we will start seeing optimistic improvements as the season progresses.

No it's not, not even close. Who does he throw to? What receiver on this team has ANY talent?

Wow... no pride on the defensive side. And Burns wants Watt money. That's freaking hilarious!

Yep... offense can't do crap. Finally defense loses intensity and all crumbles. Oh the growing pains!!

Little bitch? Jeez dude... when did you last win a heisman and play in the NFL?

God we need receivers. Bryce put one right on the money but no help

Would also help if we had play making WR's. Someone needs to stand out. Panthers need a new Smitty!! Point blank!

#79 getting walked all over tonight

Nonetheless he's the best route runner on the team. Who's better?

He's the only receiver that knows how to run routes and get separation. Or receiving core has ZERO dogs!

Done the tackler

Just shut the run game down and force our rookie QB to beat you with his arm... easy recipe to beat the Panthers.

We are a team of softies. Underachievers! Show me someone that wants to stand out! It does not appear to be on this team and it's been their issue since 2015.

Yeah, I'm not giving up on Young. I did see a few good things from him today. The biggest issue is PLAYMAKERS at WR. We have not had a true playmaker since Smitty. Guys need to start emerging. I'm hoping Mingo becomes that dog! That's what Bryce, this team needs.

Yep, Reich out coached. The Pitts catch confirmed it!

There are legit arguments to both sides of this, but also other variables we are missing here. What kind of leadership and presence does Burns bring to the locker room? Is he respected, team Captain material? Does he make players around him better? I think we know the answer to that. Burns works very hard, is a true professional and student of the game. He also tends to STAY on the field (don't want to jinx, so I just say that). I don't see this guy being selfish and slacking after he gets paid in that kind of way. His stats have gotten better every season. He is growing the way you hope a player grows. Remember, Burns was a bit undersized when he entered the league, and the expectations were that he grows into the game... well he is meeting that expectation and then some. I see Brian Burns as a guy that aspires to be (at the end of his career) one of the best DE's in the game and in Panthers history. The rest of how he is measured will speak for itself. None of us have a crystal ball, we just have to judge a person by the content of his character, and YES, by his performance. I do not see a downside to paying this guy. Does not mean he has to get TJ Watt money, just find a middle ground... no reason a reasonable deal cannot be made here.

Remind me of who their starting QB is in week 1? Oh, well... would be a safe bet that would be their plan no matter what our roster looks like.