electro's horse

i did a deep dive into Canales coaching history and it was locked by the mods, fwiw

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

bryce has had elite coaching and private tutoring since at least 8th grade.  He has been with the absolute best teams since then as well, little to no adversity.  Fast forward to august of 2023 and thats how you get a 2 win season.  Why anyone thinks this is the off season it clicks for bryce is pure insanity, why anyone thinks that DC can finally unlock young is pure insanity.   Add in the pic that was posted earlier this week and he looks absolutely smaller then he did during the season and its going to be a long year

I will say that the second best QB performance in 2022 was Bryce against Tennessee. They were basically running suicide blitz against him the entire game, in knoxville, at night, with the refs on tennessee's side, and albama STILL should have won it. That game was the main reason I was hopeful when the Panthers drafted him. In retrospect, it was just Tennessee sending a bunch of no name defenders on blitzers.

The best game of the season, of course, was by the QB the panthers passed on to draft a midget. 

2 hours ago, Basbear said:

I still hold the claim no chance former players like Dan, mccown and even Reich met face-to-face with young and still thought " Hes the one..."

 

absolutely

put another way, remember how small armanti edwards looked on the field? He was at least 2 inches taller and probably 20 pounds heavier, Bryce's Chipotle fueled combine weigh in not withstanding.

16 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

his foot work is shtty cause he can't see over the line...only way to save him is move him around behind the line to find a passing lane....

yeah....

bryce has been with the best coaches possible his entire playing life. Well, until last year obviously.

He throws the way he throws for a reason.

If I was really bored I'd look up what people on here said about The Golden Calf of Bristol's throwing motion coming out. 

he does seem confident and convincing and like he has a plan, but we've already seen with Tepper that...

a.) he's susceptible to that and 

b.) it doesn't always translate

Rhule was basically a carnival barker with his fuging presentation. 

I need to get an interview as a consultant and pitch how a ground and pound, ball control offense is the way to go due to market inefficiencies and remind him how the steelers took advantage of this in the late nineties and early 2000s when everyone went to tampa 2 defenses. 

bet i could make at least 7 figures, and i'd rehost the huddle

like how he implies after a year of tape, they still have to figure out what routes and concepts bryce is comfortable with 

I imagine this is the case for a lot of the top prospects; they just don't come out and announce it like this. 

i hate him so goddamn much

6 minutes ago, strato said:

DJ Johnson needs to step to it on that potential. 

 

Just because someone was inappropriately drafted doesn't mean they have potential. 

1 hour ago, Adb6368 said:

Mingo, icky and Shaq. 

mingo and icky are obvious

i think Shaq has been solid his entire career but never lived up to his draft spot. He’s never been close to a pro bowl although he’s technically the leader of our defense. 

shaq is entering his eighth year; there's no potential anymore.

He is what he is: a fine linebacker who was overpaid once but has always been willing to restructure his contract to help the team. He'll retire with the Panthers some day. 

It sucks that the pick used to draft him could have been traded for Joe Thomas during the 2015 season. It's the biggest realistic Panthers what if and something I think about probably more than is healthy for me.

And don't mention Thomas Davis. He was a better player his first four years in the league, before he started blowing out all his CLs and before he went super Saiyan, than Shaq has ever been.

Good guy, good leader, not a world beating linebacker. 

https://x.com/wessteinberg/status/1769141302430486765?s=46&t=JBd6ZXmGQ3LmWL-ineTnAA 

Somehow end up with Justin fields 

3 hours ago, Shocker said:

No offense but I am in the opposite camp.  We need star players.  I am not onboard on trade up but we need best available at 33 and 39 IMO

i am very offended by this tbh

5 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Remember the Hornets? Get rid of good players, lie about the numbers, move the team.

Thats the thing though; the hornets always had good players, with the exception of like the George Zedic era or whatever. 
 

yeah it sucked when the LJ/Mourning team got blown up but that was due to, uh, private issues. Plus that team was just going to get slaughtered by the bulls in the second round every year  

two years before move the hornets a 2 game lead over the bucks and had a home game to go to the ECF. The hornets historically punched way over their weight. 
 

who is even the like PJ Brown on this panthers team? Or David Wesley?

current panthers are an entire team of Bobby Phils after his drag race. 

The panthers need young, cheap players that can contribute on a football team. They need the in numbers. 
 

Quantity is the most important factor for the panthers at this point. 

Trading CMC and NOT trading Burns were defensible moves at the time. 

panthers thought they were close to making the playoffs talent wise, and they were right. Whether that’s just a broken clock being right twice a day is not the main point. 

Wilks wanted to play a certain way and the panthers didn’t have the offensive staff to properly utilize cmc anyway. He was a huge injury risk with a giant contract, and the return the panthers got was generally considered appropriate by the talking heads. 

trading burns would have hurt the panthers in the short term, and Tepper most likely veto’d it because he didn’t want to admit it was a fire sale. Plus, if you’re Scott Fitterer why would you trade Burns for draft picks you’re probably never going to use? 

It doesn’t matter because the panthers completely fuged up the “rebuild” and are now in the worst spot in team history, but it almost works. 

All it takes is for Jaycee horn not to break his arm in a freak accident, DJ Moore to leave his helmet on, and the panthers probably sneak into the playoffs as one of the hotter teams in the league. And yeah who gives a poo about WC round losses, but that’s a goal that I think most panthers fans can’t even visualize right now. 

then we’d have kept Wilks, not traded everything, continued a ground and pound offensive, maybe extended burns, keep Moore, and continue to build a team for a future qb. 
 

dreams. Sigh. 

On 3/11/2024 at 7:11 PM, Basbear said:

Young AND DJ Johnson........

I still laugh that the panthers, who’d just drafted a QB and spent the world to do it, had a chance to draft the biggest, strongest, blockiest tight end that had ever come out of college. and they just went “nah draft this 27 year old linebacker no one has ever heard of.”

Can’t let a guy like this leave without a contract. 

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So basically their version of Frank Reich? 

I think Frank was always the main option going into 2023. It seemed to me the Ben Johnson interview was more for him to come join The Coaching Voltron 

42 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They are. Firing Ron to hire Quinn is pretty baffling.

 

Quinn was the scramble hire after Ben Johnson changed his mind at the last minute. 

2 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Quinn's defense was historically terrible when he was the HC in Atlanta though. Maybe he went back to his Legion of Boom roots in Seattle but if I recall they never ranked higher than like 20th on Defense when he was with the Falcons. 

2017: 8th in points, 9th in yards 

5 minutes ago, RJK said:

Enough tweeners and positionless players. It’s never worked in Carolina 

he was 2nd for defensive rookie of the year, and should have got it if we're being honest with ourselves. 

he had a position. Rhule just thought he was Earl Thomas or something. 

biggest misuse of talent in Panthers history

we had a Kam Chancellor and turned him into Haruki Nakamura.

Quinn knows what he's getting. Congrats to Commies fans and Chinn. Wish him nothing but the best and I hope he fuging shreds this garbage ass franchise every time we play them.

1 hour ago, frankw said:

I have to imagine Evero has been in the loop through all of this.

Ultimately this is probably good for him in the fact this will be a scenario where if he fields a decent defense through all this adversity he's pretty much all but guaranteed a head coaching job next year.

And if (when) the defense struggles because they’re starting AKPanthersFan at EDGE, his career is set back how many years?

lol I you thought this team was getting an actual elite player. 
 

guess we overpaid for some guards tho that’s nice.