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Training facilities and stadium upgrades are cool ....BUT... I'm just hoping we can address getting some grass back in the building. Asap!!

(And not exclusively for the soccer team)

5 hours ago, WarPanthers89 said:

No one is mentioning the Horn connection and how that battle in summer camp should really help Legettes development. Horn will be able to call out any opportunities fairly quick. Iron sharpens iron 

This.... 

+ I'm almost certain Gilmore will be here. 

If he needs to learn how to be more physical off the line then keep Jaycee on em. 

Yea I think we told Devante Adams that too 

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Burton is interesting.  Seems to have a lot of talent, but is a bit of a headcase.  We do have Young who knew him from High School in Cali and of course played with him in college.  I wonder how he feels about drafting Burton?  

He might slip all the way to the fifth-UDFA. I think there's zero chance he lands here but the dude is talented regardless

We need a reliable pass catching TE... Tremble "could" be that with further development. We also need a RB with power...for short distance and goaline situations. 

We could get by with that we have if we had to but we could also certainly upgrade. I'm guessing the FO feels the same. 

3 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

I think it will come down to Legette or Coleman, as has been stated by many people. I think it comes down to who is available. There are some sources that believe Legette could sneak into the 1st round. If he doesn't, I think he is the pick. Coleman is likely next on the board. They are looking for a true X receiver. 

I've seen Leggette everywhere from the teens to 68(3rd round). It actually seems like the closer the draft gets the more he slides.

On 4/14/2024 at 11:48 PM, raleigh-panther said:

Let’s see what this year brings on the ‘deep’ category 

Chark dropped  his  share 

young missed his share 

at some point, it’s going to become very very clear where the issue is

Idunno... its a weird ass situation.

All training camp ..Bryce to Chark is the new thing.  

The season debut of that duo: A lil underwhelming.  

Dalton comes in: Chark TD

Next week Bryce: repeat the underwhelming...

......it continues 

THEN: Vs Green Bay (Iirc) This is probably what the people saw in training camp. 

Next week: Back to normal

Idunno how to classify it. Seemed like the whole offense was working with different playbooks. 

Add a C to the the two Guards we'll see. In college he could spin it. Not 70 yards Josh Allen spin but 40 if he could step into it and plant ... in the NFL, his deep ball got wildly inaccurate. I just dunno how much of that was due to horrible footwork. 

He needs a speedy/shifty WR for the short and intermediate. For the deep ball, he needs somebody that can track the ball and adjust. Somebody who can climb the ladder and catch the occasional prayer ball. Which is y I think his pops wants Leggette. And the reason Keon is still on our board imo. 

Side note: Besides body type, Legette and Mingo are not the same. Far too many people are already writing him off though. Give'em time.  

On 4/12/2024 at 4:50 PM, Jackie Lee said:

I dunno if it would be a good idea to start a rookie C game 1 with Bryce being Bryce and Canales trying to call plays and head coach at the same time. Sounds like a clusterfugg. Not that Corbett actually has much experience at C either though

I don't know how serious our C needs are with Corbett in the mix BUT it seems a lil wild that they've put all those resources into the line but didn't address the most important position on it.  

I think we're using the Payton/Brees era formula. Elite Guard play over Elite tackle play. Brees wasn't a mobile Qb but he could navigate the pocket insanely well. He could also read defenses quickly and had a annoying ass quick release. That said, I despise the guy but Bryce has to be able to step up. It's that fact thats leading me to think that C is actually a priority and Corbett is a smoke screen/backup to LG. 

I don't think they're spending any more $$ on that line. So it's either 1 of 3 choices... Corbett is some unknown pro Bowler at C or he's atleast average at the position. 3rd option would be the worst case, which places the question mark in the middle. 

They released Boze to slide Corbett over? Nah, our next Center is coming from Oregon, Duke or Georgia imo.

Hell I don't even think we've selected a Center in the last decade iirc. 

Picking 2 

Damn good start imo

20 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

We need another JStew.

Trey Bensen ...all day

30 Mil...... 

Damn!. 

How much $$ do we have tied up across that entire line? 

I will say Him and Hunt next to each other is VERY stout. If only I had as much confidence in Corbett at Center, we'd have brickwall infront of Bryce.

Idunno how much cap space we have left but I figured they we're waiting to see if Gilmore will sign back for a couple years before they went moving money again. 

I also think we have our eyes on a tackle in the draft. I wish it were center but hopefully Corbett is more Ryan Kalil than Tyler Larsen/Greg Van Roten. 

Bo Nix ...QB 

John Rhys Plumlee ...QB

JD Bertrand.... Linebacker

Mark Perry ...Safety

Andre Carter ...Edge

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

In my view, there are not many ILBs in this draft. 

We know that we need an impact player at WR---after that, I am not sure what our biggest need is--TE?  C? LB?  CB? 

After adding 3 Edge players in free agency, I do not see us adding another.  Not really sure about DL.  Does the new kickoff rule impact anything?  This is very difficult

Depends ... but I do think Dan has a target for this dude already laid out. NO DOUBT in my mind he's in love with the prospect of either Wilson and Cooper. If I had to put money on it...if either one of them are on the board, they'll be a Panther. 

As for needs it depends on how they view those exact positions. I think center is a glaring need but they seem to have Corbett locked in to the position. With a GM in his first draft and Canales as HC "everything" is on the table.

Hell the Wildcard is the fact we brought in Bo Nix for a top 30 visit.

His talent screams 1st

Medical screams 3rd

If he's still there at 39....ofcourse

At 33....he'll have competition vs our other prioritized needs.

10 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I'll just keep saying it... Legette ≠ Mingo

Mingo never had a year like Legette had last year. 

I think what was seen from Mingo his last year in college is probably a good indicator of his ceiling in the pros. 

i feel the same is true for Legette his last year.

I know that's not usually a reliable indicator, but what Legette was able to do once the opportunity for him finally presented itself and the number of ways he was used and has been used really shows what he is capable of and it's a lot more than Mingo. 

I'm not giving up on Mingo, but i don't believe he will ever have the success that Legette will have wherever he goes.

I agree. They may be similar in build but Leggette has a sneaky speed 2 em and he can high point much better. Rarely does he caught from behind. AND he can track the ball at an above average level. He's 6'1 but plays like he's 6'5. 

I like Keon too but I think Leggette is our target. Leggette and ILB. 

 I think helping Bryce would be to grab a guy and/or a TE that could go up and get it regularly. If Bryce's deep ball accuracy is in question than having a big threat that just happens to have the speed and can attack the ball if it's thrown anywhere in his area becomes extremely important.  

I'm not giving up on Mingo either. Hell when he was drafted I remember a few people saying he'd need time to refine his craft at the next level. I honestly think they might have asked him to do too much too soon and it overwhelmed him as a rookie. 

Well then if that's an indicator of WR success.... then maybe we should give Mingo more time to develop as they brought him in last year

I mean .... it's not like we're talking about prime Kelce here. 

Hurst was a huge disappointment pre Injury imo. Great guy...but just wasn't working out. 

After his first TD he just faded away. I think they were moreso trying to save him from the risk and possible embarrassment of being a 3rd backup behind Tremble and Sullivan. 

Side note: Dan Arnold was a guy we should have never let walk. That said, Wiley, Bell or Stover on Day Three could be the answer. 

2 hours ago, Lame Duck said:

And this… 

 

We need a smooth route runner.
 

Damn Mingo !?!... 

Nah, I'm not giving up on him yet. I remember my patience for Derrick Brown when everyone was ready to move on. And from everything I've seen/heard about him... Mingo's work ethic should keep him far from complacent. 

That chart is wild though. Suprised to see Brian Thomas Jr at that spot. Gotta do more research on Franklin. 

And Leggette is a different breed. We need that redzone threat. 

2 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

I have no earthly clue why people want to keep drafting the same type of wr repeatedly and expect a different result on the field. 

How about drafting a dude with legitimate speed and separation with legitimate college production instead of protecting big lumbering dudes to be the next dk Metcalf??

This is why my favorite wr are Troy Franklin and Xavier Worthy

On the bigger side I wouldn't mind Keon. Or even Sanders at TE.

But at 33 it'll have to be between Ladd, AD, Worthy, and Franklin. I'd still add Leggette. Man ran a 4.3 but he's not as shifty...

Or wait until later...

Corley... don't sleep. 

Malik Washington 

Pearsall... Polk 

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My concerns are that Leggette seems like a carbon copy of Mingo on paper and Wilson's laundry list of injury history. He's a helluva LB but availability can be just as vital as playing ability as we see with Horn.

I can see the comparisons but Leggette has better hands and more breakaway speed. 

Wilson is a risk/reward player. When healthy he's everywhere. 

I'd agree ... throw in Vann Prann at 65 ... 3 impact starters in theory.

Cooper is more Luvu (motor, blitz ability)

Wilson is more Kuechly (tackling machine, instincts)

Immediate impact players. And Wilson is not getting out the top 40 unless his medical is worse than expected. 

Cooper with his closing speed could be a nightmare in our scheme lined up with Clowney, Wonnum and Shaq. We could manufacture more pressure.  

And pairing Wilson and Jewell would be actually insane from the instincts standpoint. No more 30 yard run gashes. 

This draft is so deep we "could" walk out with 3 starting caliber players before our first pick in the fourth imo. 

And I'll say this, if we drafted Wilson or Cooper and ended up signing Gilmore...Our defense "should" be improved from last year. Cooper is the Day 1 playmaker while Wilson is the diagnose, play recognize and attack player. Both are plug and play ...for this team. 

He HAS to stop hopping around. Jumping on his toes. Idunno if he was just scared and overwhelmed or its because of his height. But after taking a close look at the All-22 ...his footwork is insanely bad at times. 

Canales has his hands full. 

I just don't think you go from Heisman winner to inaccurate mid to long Jag. He can't be a bad as some point him out to be.  His rhythm is off with the routes. And he needs to stop staring down his receivers...(**apparently some of Reich's plays only had 1 option to throw to***) I do think he's fixable, but to trade away a proven NFL #1 WR, the '25 first pick of the draft, etc... you'd think we were getting a much more nfl ready prospect. 

All that said, I'm praying he turns out salvageable and Canales, a better line, and quicker receivers will unlock something I saw a couple of times last season. 

Also makes me think, we're also getting a TE, RB, and WR between final cuts and the draft. They're going to give Bryce every possible avenue to win. That also takes away any excuse. If he looks the same or worse we move on. 

And they said he beat Dalton in camp? 

Ima give him the benefit of the doubt. That Green Bay game showed me he does have something to work with despite his size. Now I gotta go back to the Alabama footage. Iirc, looks like 2 totally different players. 

Just said in another thread, there is a reason we met with Trey Benson.