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Martin

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  1. 6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

    He would have been the 6th best wr last year, maybe 5th and we just took him at 8 overall.   We are in a bizarro world

    What’s bizarre is to use a draft from another year to say someone was under or over drafted. The question is where he was rated in this years draft. Maybe he would have been the top pick in 1987, so he’s a total steal this year hurp durp 

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  2. 15 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

    I wasn't saying anything about competing with division rivals.   I was saying Falcons had a clear need and clearly addressed it and still got good value with their picks.  They didn't reach and they also didn't pick a player that makes no sense for them.  We reached by a few picks and picked another big wr with no quickness on a team with the slowest offense in the NFL.  We picked a guy with a #2 ceiling at pick 8 with no #1.

    I think you might be the only one I’ve seen saying Falcons getting good value for their pick. Trading next years one for James Pierce was wild.

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  3. 39 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

    Malaki Starks might be BPA at #8

    It might be a bit high, but would love to have him. Would give us fantastic safety starters, something Evero needs in his defense 

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  4. 1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

    Not if Graham falls to them. DT is their main target and he's the best in this class right now. If he's gone and they can trade down it could be for Nolan or Emmanwori.

    I just saw two mock drafts on NFL (DJ and someone else) + Josh Norris all have Panthers taking Graham 🤞

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  5. 3 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

    The players who will be available to us with those picks are irrelevant because it's still not a good trade.  And for at sam that has a recent history of making bad draft pick based trades, all this trade would do is make teams continue to low ball us in trade offers because it's clear we get pushed around.

    And it being that type of draft is also exactly why it's a terrible trade, because it's a bit of a crapshoot draft, so every pick you move down, makes you more likely to make a wrong pick than a right one.  Even over drafting a player is a smarter move, because it means we are still taking someone we REALLY believe in, which in a draft like this is more important than value, because it gives you a better chance of hitting on the pick.

    All of that is also before you even dig in further and see that this is proposing a trade with the Falcons.

    If we're allowing a divisional opponent to move up from 15 to 8 to take someone they clearly badly want, you need to make them bleed for it.  I made my comments before realizing it, and still stick by that trade package if it was a non NFCS team, now knowing it's the Falcons, if we're going from 8 to 15, I want next year's 1st and 2nd as well as this year's 2nd, anything less and they can go kick rocks.

    I complete disagree. Who is available is extremely relevant. If you have a couple of players you would be happy with and you can still get them if you trade back, you should do that in a heartbeat. Being afraid that people will lowball you next year is an odd stance. Then you just say no next year, problem solved. In this particular draft you can get a very good player at 46. But to each their own.

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  6. 21 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

    You want to trade down from 8 to 15 and only get 46 in return?

    HELLLLLLLLL NO

    If we're trading down that far, we better be getting a 1st next year, a 2nd this year, and possibly even more.

    If we aren’t sold on anyone at 8, this would be a good trade imo. We would get a really good player at 46. This is an unusual draft with a lot of really good players from 10-50. 

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  7. His arm length and wingspan negates any concerns about his height. He is around 250 lbs, pretty much the same as Watt and other elite 3-4 rushers, so that is also not a major concern. Honestly, I don’t really see why he isn’t ranked higher overall. I’m a big fan.

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  8. 13 hours ago, Verge said:

    I also posted my edges! Mykel was number two. 

    I think looking at Georgia's sack numbers or win rates or whatever doesn't really tell the whole story. Their entire defense is loaded and different guys had different assignments. Is Mykel the most refined pass rusher in the world? Not really, no. Is he built like Myles Garrett and is he ridiculously effective in run defense.

    I see people talking about low floor and that really isn't the reality here. No matter where you look at it, Mykel is effective as a defender. He is going to walk in and be a top tier run wrecker, and assuming he gets healthy it's not hard to envision him becoming a 10+ sack guy at the next level. There are games where he is just tossing around SEC lineman which doesn't happen very often. 

    I appreciate your (and everyone else’s) input. I’m all for stopping the run first, so I’m good with way that point. I’m concerned with his pass rush, but he’s also only 20…

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