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46 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

DJ is a model citizen, fantastic receiver and nowhere near his potential. Even with bad QB play, bad scripting of plays and inept coaching, he still far outshines every receiver we have on the team -- combined.

You don't let him walk, or more specifically, you do what it takes to get him to stay. Yes, he is a first rate receiver, but we need him as much for his intangibles as anything else. There's a fair to middling chance we will have an entirely new coaching staff next season, hopefully someone that can actually coach. That guy, and us, deserves a reliable receiver and non-diva team leader. DJ fits that admirably. Pair him with the right QB on top of that and you can make a lot happen.

Is he going to cost us? Yes. And compared to other things we've committed to, he's the only surefire thing we've got going on the offensive side of the ball. 

I agree with everything you said.

I would also like to see him being used more like Debo Samuel. I don’t think this coaching staff does him any favors whatsoever. He’s also got speed and is very strong with contested catches, but they seem to never send him deep.

I’d resign him in a heartbeat.

10 hours ago, Basbear said:

https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock-nfl-mock-draft-simulator/draft.php?d=aqisov

drafttek

difficult

 

8: R1 P8 OT Evan Neal - Alabama

105: R4 P3 LB Henry To'o-To'o - Alabama

150: R5 P8 C Dohnovan West - Arizona State

152: R5 P10 QB Tanner Mordecai - SMU

194: R6 P15 OT Dawand Jones - Ohio State

246: R7 P27 TE Jahleel Billingsley - Alabama

Evan Neal would make for a successful draft imo. If we get a great LT, the rest is gravy.

I have a feeling he might be the 2nd or 3rd OT when the draft comes around. Makes no sense but it happens every year. Just a gut feel.

4 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

For the same reason Brady isn’t a left tackle on this team

I got really excited for a quick minute when Brown came in to play. Then Erving came back in the next series. What a letdown (glad Erving was ok, but keep Brown in for the love of god).

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

1. Potential franchise QB

2. Potential franchise LT

3. TRADE DOWN

I'd still field calls if #1 isn't an option.

I agree about the QB comment. I’m sure at least 1-2 QBs will “emerge” as franchise QBs. I wouldn’t be surprised if a healthy Strong is one of them.

It is obviously very early and it depends who is there. But I was curious to where everyone is at? At this time I’m more leaning towards staying put and get a stud LT instead of trading back and take a good one.

18 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That’s the thing, there is no telling. Howell and Rattler were suppose to top this class. Tua was looking similar to Young early in his college career. It’s a bit of a crap shoot. 

That’s my thinking. If Corral is there, can we afford to not take him? I’d love a LT, but he might be too good to pass up. 

13 hours ago, Jared Patterson said:

Draft a LT this year in a loaded class and then a QB in 2023:

1. Bryce Young

2. Cj Stroud 

3. Anthony Richardson 

4. Haynes King

5. Dj Uiagalelei

6. Grayson McCall 

7. Spencer Rattler

8. Tanner Mckee

9. Tyler Van Dyke 

10. Kj Jefferson

11. Jayden Daniels

12. Phil Jurkovec

Arguably the best class I have seen in a long, long time. 

So is any of the above names better than Corral? I don’t know so it is a genuine question. I’ve seen some of Rattler and Uigalelei and it wasn’t pretty. Rattler was benched.

I do love the idea of going for a stud LT and keep Cam for another year, but if Corral is there isn’t he at the level of anyone on that list? And I’m not looking at a side-by-side numbers comparison as most QBs on your list play in stacked teams.

I thought he played really well yesterday, DT usually takes a couple of years before they settle in. So the bust takes are premature.

I thought it looked like he was taking notes, so I took it as a good thing.

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You hear him talk about how John Miller might be healthy again soon as if having back in the starting lineup would be a big positive.

He does...not...get it

But don’t you worry, Michael Jordan is also coming back

13 minutes ago, BlitzMonster said:

I've read numerous OL guys say the transition from R to L (or vice versa) is actually much more difficult that it would initially appear.

If you've played on one side on the line for many years, when you get switched every instinct you have is completely wrong.  Those decisions you have to make in just fractions of a second take a little longer since you're translating what you're doing for your body.   Maybe if you've been playing for many years it's not so bad but much more difficult for rookies or other young players.

That's why playing Christensen at RG is incredibly stupid.  Rhule is using him like he's a 10 year pro, not a rookie still trying to learn the game (which he is).  Rhule is actually hurting Christensen's development by moving him to so many positions.  Just put him at one hecking spot and leave him there in his rookie year !!!  How hecking much of an idiot do you have to be not to understand that ??

That’s what I was thinking as well, I appreciate the insight. I also like the idea of his athleticism at LG and pair him with an athletic LT in the draft. I’d rather put a mauling guard next to Moton.

Looks like Brady is starting at RG, wouldn’t it make more sense to start him at LG (and I know, nothing about this makes sense). I was thinking at least keep him on the left side. For those of you who understand O-Line, wouldn’t it be easier for him to transition to LG, instead of RG, from LT, or does it not matter?

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I look at the possible future.

That’s what I try to do. Would be much easier if we were playing our young guys more, that’s the missing piece for me.

Verge, what’s your take on Strong if his knee checks out? 

5 minutes ago, BerryLoMein said:

Find enjoyment in other sports and things.

Agreed, I’ve been hiking with the family and fly fishing. Recording the games so I can fast forward.

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I'd like to get a look at the rookie OL.  Still wish they would throw Marshall and Shi out there more too and let him have some of Robby's work.  I don't care if Robby and Cam are friendly.  And CJ Henderson.   That's about it.   Throw the young guys all out there.  

And that is what I’m missing, the refusal to play the young guys. 

2 minutes ago, CashNewton22 said:

I sat through Jimmy Clausen years. I think I can “suffer” having to watch Brian burns, Hasson Reddick, Cam Newton, DJ Moore, Jeremy Chinn, Stephon Gilmore, Robby Andersen etc etc. What on earth has happened to Panther Nation my goodness y’all we gotta still support our team. Even if you hate Rhule I’m still gonna ride or die for my Panthers. 

Don’t get me wrong, still support the team. But success in the last five games will only prolong Rhule’s stay, and that is not a good thing.

I’ve gone from the point of supporting Rhule to realizing he’s a clown. At this point we need to lose out so he gets fired. And I can’t believe I’m saying that, it goes against everything in believe in in sports.

Normally I can take some late wins if they show progress for our young players, improvements in coaching etc. But in this case he needs to go.

I remember the Clausen season. Watched every game, enjoyed small improvements etc, but not sure what to watch for this year.

Hoping to see Cam play well and our young corners to continue to develop. But that is pretty much it. Normally I’d watch for our O-line rookies to improve, but since they are barley playing…

What are you hoping to see over the next few weeks?

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Rhule's goal is to seek out the worst possible place to put Brady.  Then insert him there. 

I know, new position every week. Just mind boggling. And what is up with his Daley fetish? Unbelievable.

31 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I would basically switch tier 1 and 2 but what do I know

Agree with you, I would also put Strong in tier 1 if his knee checks out. 

To add to this, the whole pre-season Brady was playing RT, not guard or center…

I was a big supporter of Rhule, but what a  

Great article in the observer today, here’s a short section:

”When watching film of each Panthers game, it becomes a struggle to recognize when a run call complemented the passing game. Simply put, the Panthers’ runs do not resemble their dropback game, which makes dissecting post-snaps plays easier for defenders. Brady’s designs did not put the Panthers in enough advantageous situations either. Instead, he repeatedly asked receivers to win their respective matchup rather than scheming them open. Deceitful tools like play-action throws were a limited part of his offense as well. For example, quarterback Cam Newton used play-action only nine times over the past two weeks.”

15 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

We ride with Cam and Darnold next year and look to the 2023 draft for our next franchise QB.  This draft sucks for QBs. 

Agree with this. Come draft time I’m sure I’ll talk myself in to a QB. But the smart thing is to pick a stud LT and build the line.

I really like the idea of bringing back Norwell. Outside if his play at LG (probably the weakest of all the weak spots), he sets the tone and attitude on the line, and that is something sorely missing today.