Martin

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Ugh……..   to everyone of them.    Red flags all around

Do you think their red flags were different from Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields and Mac Jones? I don’t see much of a difference to be honest. But I don’t watch much college ball so you might have seen more of them play than me. 
 

Three of them have multiple years of strong performance (Howell, Stong, Corall). Last year were a lot of one year wonders.

5 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Next year is a wash. We won't fix the QB position and the offensive line this off-season. 

The coaching staff have proven to be incompetent at game planning, calling games, and selecting personnel. We picked up a 5th year option on one of the worst QBs in the NFL without seeing him play a down for us. We have no day 2 picks. We are overpaying for a WR who I'm pretty sure has the most drops in the NFL. We owe the aforementioned QB 18 million next year.

What makes you think this staff will be competent in their FA and draft decisions come next year? We need to fix the entire oline and find a QB. The two hardest position groups to find decent players. 

We have been set back at least 2 years unless this organization performs a miracle in the off season. 

And Tepper seems more concerned with growing his empire than building a culture around this team. The future looks bleak if we stay on this course.

Edit: And yes, as Firefox mentioned... hyperbole. But the point stands. We shot ourselves in the foot this off-season 

Oh I agree with some of your points, however the excessive use of hyperbole on this site (not just you, from a lot of people) just takes away from your main points.

We are completely lost offensively. I’m very impressed with our D and the coaching on that side. Special Teams seem to have come around as well.

The comments about Tepper not caring that are rampant around here are also ridiculous. One minute he’s Dan Snyder, the next he is not involved enough. Not sure how you can say he doesn’t care. Based on what? Some bad decisions?

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

 

Lol, that was really funny!

33 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

We passed on Fields and mortgaged away our future. The decisions made this past off-season has set us back at least 2 years. 

Lol at “mortgaged away the future”. We took a risk and it failed. Next draft we are missing a 2 and 3 round pick. Is it good? No. But mortgaged the future? Some of you need help.

The O-line hasn’t been good, but the fact that the opposing defense has nothing to fear from Darnold makes their job impossible

1 minute ago, ncstatekwi said:

And we could've drafted MAC JONES.....EL OH EL

I still don’t want Mac, what in this game makes you think you wanted him in the first round? 
 

is he better than Darnold? Yes. Is he impressive? No

Just now, Martin said:

I know it is wrong to put a punter on this list, but what a weapon he would be with our defense.
 

 

 

Obviously not in round 1. I’m assuming most of you get that, but there’s always one person...

I know it is wrong to put a punter on this list, but what a weapon he would be with our defense.
 

Bill usually does a great job going after and limiting the strengths of each QB. But since PJ has no strengths at the QB position, what gives?

Strong has a potential knee issue from what I’ve read, but not sure. Haven’t seen him play, but read great things about him.

Not a one year wonder either:

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Ive watched like one half of a game from him (Clemson), what does he do well in your opinion?  For the little I watched it appears pitt has a senior team and play hard as hell.  However nothing really jumped off the page in regards to him.  Again that was like 2nd half of a blowout so I fully admit that. 

I haven’t seen him at all, just seen more of him draft wise recently. Seems to be having a great year. I won’t see him until bowl season 

Any opinions on Kenny Pickett? He’s really turned it on this year. Four year starter.

I agree, the fact that he didn’t nail 100% of his draft picks and free agent signings, and he didn’t find a franchise QB just laying around, and he didn’t fix the defense, offense and special teams in the 8 months he’s been here. What a failure, right?

I’m not sure this class is as bad as people think. Outside of Trevor last year, you had a bunch of close to one year starters with a lot of arm strength (excluding Mac) but a lot of question marks. 
 

This year we have a lot of multi year experienced starters that by January people will start to give the proper attention. If Strong checks out injury wise I’d put him behind only Trevor in last years draft, you also got Howell, Corral etc.

No way. He’s accused of +20 counts of sexual assault. What is wrong with you?

Unless this is all some weird conspiracy and he his totally innocent (spoiler alert, it is not), I wouldn’t go near him.

Just now, Newbie said:

I understand our first three opponents were weak teams but so were the Giants and the Vikings and Eagles aren’t world beaters. How could we look so good to open the season and get progressively worse starting on week 4? The offense has gone from mildly competent to an unmitigated disaster and it appears we’re blind without a cane at this point. Is what Brady’s doing so basic and predictable that teams just needed a couple of weeks of tape to figure us out? Our offense is so bad it’s killing our defense. We would be better off doing the exact opposite of whatever cockamamie game plan these jimmies draw up. Is there any hope or should I turn off the tv and start looking forward to the draft?

The Joe Brady / Sam Darnold combo happened. I was hopeful, but this is brutal.

I missed the game, went apple picking with the family and thought I recorded the game. Apparently I did not. Sounds like it was for the better...

I read Michael Jordan played LG. Did Daley get hurt or finally benched? Also, how did Jordan look? Ok ish?

57 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Y'all realize that when he's saying that Darnold isn't feeling and seeing the pass rush that he's meaning that in a positive light, right?

But that was about the only positive thing he said. Yeah, we obviously need to cut down on the turnovers but the guy literally took zero responsibility for any of the offensive struggles. Not a good look IMO.

I didn’t take it that way, but I’ve only read the quote and haven’t watched it. But I’m all in for a glass half full viewpoint, so I’m with you!

I thought the combo of Miller and Moton on the right side was good last year. I don’t think they saw this coming from Miller. They gambled a bit with the LG spot. My guess was they prioritized best available in the draft with a plan to really address the O-line in 2022.

Scheming around one guard is possible, but not around both. 

To sum up, the brutal performance from Miller has had a serious domino effect on the whole line and I really hope Brown gets a turn soon.

The biggest issue I see with Sam is the inability to connect on the deep ball. A lot of other stuff have been discussed in other threads.

Super hard with the interior pressure in the last game, totally get it, but the lack of that threat allows the opponent corners to sit on a lot of routes.

I’m still trying to stay optimistic about Sam, but until he connects on a couple of deep throws, the opposing defense will have a much easier time shutting down the short to intermediate stuff.

Did he always struggle with the deep ball? I know he has the arm for it.

23 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Yup, he's a stud.  He's only been playing LT for two seasons.  Traditionally he's been a G. He's given up a few sacks, but he talent is undeniable. I think he'll slip as a tackle unless someone drafts him as a G.  I hope so, because his arrow is only pointing up and with more coaching and more reps at LT, I think he's going to be a franchise LT.

I didn’t realize he was a potential LT, thought he was a stud guard. Interesting.

2 minutes ago, Martin said:

I’ve heard this “…they laid out the blueprint…” a bit. Who else has the combination of Dallas O-line, RBs etc?

Also, do you really think we will make no adjustments at all moving forward?

We’ve only played 4 games, a lot will change and if we meet Dallas again in the playoffs we will be ready.

I guess LA Rams is done for the year, everyone can just use the Cardinals blueprint, the Packers season is over, just use the Saints blueprint…

1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Yes, this is exactly what I mean. The Panthers beat two teams with a rookie QB and Jameis Winston who I wouldn’t consider a quality QB. The Cowboys beat the hell out of this defense with their run game, laying a blueprint for other teams. The only reason that Cowboys game didn’t appear to be a blowout is because Trevon Diggs left the game in the 4th quarter and Darnold threw the ball at whoever was covering guys in his spot, allowing the Panthers to claw back.

Bottom line is, this Panthers team is really banged up and not as good as the roster that hit the field Week 1. The Eagles are going to be a tough out for an undermanned Panthers team.

I’ve heard this “…they laid out the blueprint…” a bit. Who else has the combination of Dallas O-line, RBs etc?

Also, do you really think we will make no adjustments at all moving forward?

We’ve only played 4 games, a lot will change and if we meet Dallas again in the playoffs we will be ready.

Looking at guards and centers for the draft. One name that comes up a lot is Ikem. Any State fans with insights on him?

I feel pretty good about it. Eagles whole O-line is down so our D should feast.

I’m worried about Hargreaves vs. our o-line, but we should win fairly comfortably. I expect a big bounce back game even with our injuries.