Martin

When he has the time to fully step in to his throws and conditions are ideal, he can probably make most standard short to intermediate throws. But he has never had a good deep ball, not even in College. He will struggle to go beyond intermediate throws and that gives the defense somewhat of an advantage as they don’t really need to account for it.

We will do everything we can to build on what he does well, but unfortunately that puts a ceiling to what we can achieve as a team.

Btw, I would love to be wrong as I’m all about us having success. Team success is number one, and if Bryce is not that guy we need to move on to someone else the following year.

On 1/29/2024 at 7:48 AM, mrcompletely11 said:

Weekly meetings.  Play suggestions.  Defense suggestions. Etc 

Essentially every owner in the NFL has weekly meetings with the GM and HC. It is so weird that people have an issue with that. 

The other points are legit if the owner imposes game day decisions (I do think this mostly is very exaggerated fan fiction) I don’t agree with it, but if I had Frank trying the same things every week with the same results, I probably would ask some questions about it and ask “have you thought about x y z”.

24 minutes ago, frankw said:

Just saying but maybe we should leave this term in 2023

Haha, fair point, I didn’t think about that

Dan is not a great speaker, but he has a lot of fire and conviction. He is very different from Fitt in that regard. I mentioned before, but he was openly saying we currently suck, we don’t have the right players etc. I really liked what I heard from him.

Good, strong press conference. They both came across as very passionate, clear on what they need to and want to do. Dan went on (in a good way) about how we need a different mind set, different players etc. He more or less said we suck and we are soft right now. It was very refreshing that he called that out.

20 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I did not watch much of it today or read any comments.  Interesting--what you say will drop him down boards. There are a lot of 4.4 guys who stall to 4.8 when running routes.  I mentioned this in relation to DBs when I played in college, but one comment by the DB coach stayed with me, even though I was a TE,  He said you may run a 4.4, but if it takes you .2 of a second slower than a 4.6 guy to process and play and get there, then I am going with the smart guy (the 4.6 with brains and faster reaction).  I can say that i have never spent more focus watching WRs separation than this year. 

Ladd Mcconkey (sp?) seem to be one of the best at creating separation, and he has good speed as well. I’m intrigued.

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

As an avid mock drafter, I can say that I often fall in love with players early in the process and that causes me to overlook other talents.  I am trying to stay objective about Legette, but it is difficult.

It would be worth it for all the “he’s legit” jokes we could use

13 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

I’m not buying Legette getting past round 2. He’s a monster and would bring us what DJ Moore did most seasons. His route running looks just fine below. 
 

https://twitter.com/mjhurleytdt/status/1752765044096446770?s=46&t=iUe8E7P_bH33jIZRf7fRSQ

 

 

I’m far from an expert, so I rely heavily on what Dane Brugler says

54 minutes ago, UNCrules2187 said:

It really does seem like the Commanders were all in on Johnson and got burned. Honestly feels like Tepper last year - think he was ready to hire Johnson and the interview was just a formality then had to pivot once he pulled out and we ended up with a mish mash coaching staff.  

Not sure Ben wants a HC role. Panthers last year and Washington this year were close to dream situations in many ways for an offensive coach.

54 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

LOTS of WR/OL talent in Mobile. My thoughts:

• WRs I like at varying spots in the draft:
  • McConkey, Roman Wilson, Corley, Rice, Thrash, & Cowing
• WRs I don't want in process blue:
  • Legette, Walker, Johnny Wilson
• I want Jackson Powers-Johnson at 33. He is a beast and might even go late 1st. He also took some reps at G and looked natural. 
• Wish we had a need for RT because Guyton is going to be a stud. Not sure if he can play LT, but I'm tired of trying to fit OL where they don't belong. 
• Love Darius Robinson, DL from Mizzou. He will be a luxury pick for us because he probably goes R2. Too many other needs, but he has shades of Maxx Crosby to him....just a violent, physical specimen.
• Quinyon Mitchell probably punched his ticket to the first round yesterday and today. He is locked and loaded and would look phenomenal opposite Horn. Same as Robinson, just not going to fit our need/place he will be selected.

I think whether we pick a WR at 33 or 65, we will have a day 1 starter that will contribute. I also want us to throw multiple darts at WR the way Green Bay did. They used multiple picks in two years and now have a deep, talented, young receiving unit. 

I’m with you on Jackson Powers-Johnson, as of today he could be my choice at 33 as well. I really like Ladd McConkey as well, he knows how to get open, and he has enough speed.

16 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I read an article on him--second round grade--but they said that he would go in the first round if Al Davis were still alive--going after the size/speed ratio players (ineffectively).  I am less impressed than before after watching day 1 of the SR bowl practices, but he is having a better day today.

I saw Brugler saying he is a bit overrated and belongs more in the third round due to sloppy route running etc.

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Given the environment around the team last season, it's not really difficult to believe.

We're basically also asking him to start over with a rookie head coach when guys he's got history with are way further along and in a much better position.

And I mean, he walks next year anyway. Unless we think there's some kind of magic coming this season or we're somehow going to draft an MVP level player with that compensatory third rounder, what's the point of saddlng a rookie coach with a disgruntled DC?

He just doesn’t strike me as the disgruntled type. He’s super professional and focused. But obviously I don’t know for sure.

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We're going to add to the already dysfunctional reputation and environment we have amongst coaches and league people just so we can get one year of service from a coach who doesn't want to be here and an extra third round pick?

Does this really sound like a good trade-off to everybody?

It's not like we're talking about this year being a Super Bowl run or something.

I just question that he doesn’t want to be here. He also seem very professional. I think it is all speculation from media as usual. It might have some substance, but I’m not convinced.

Love the energy, that alone makes him a 180 from Frank 

https://x.com/panthers/status/1752748973448688017?s=46&t=zdFLMqd3t9b2DcvnHsC-IA
 

5 minutes ago, frankw said:

Commanders put all their eggs in on someone who flaked out on teams last year. Should have known better.

Agree. What do they even do now? Hiring someone they’re lukewarm over? Or will they pull someone from the Superbowl trans? Not even sure who that would be. Pretty bare pickings. I’m really glad we moved quickly and decisively.

I did not see this coming for Washington, what an absolute letdown for them:

8 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

No it wouldn't. 

You lose you didn't play good enough than the other QB. Had Flowers not fumbled at the goal line that game may have been different.

 

Chiefs were shutout in the 2nd half so it's not like Mahomes had his greatest game either.

 

Well we can just agree to disagree on this one.

31 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Lamar is about to be a 2 time MVP without those weapons on the 49ers.

 

Lamar is not going to get credit until he wins a SB. It's why damn near the entire thread went crazy when he loss. People also want to root against Lamar as much as others don't want to admit it.

 

I don't agree with people on ESPN a lot, but Dan Orlovsky made a great point when he said people who look like Lamar, talk like Lamar, dress like Lamar aren't supposed to win a SB. Orlovsky played in the NFL if he's admitting this is the buzz around the NFL believe him!

 

Lamar failed. But so did the other great QBs. Manning couldn't beat Brady for years yet he's still considered as one the better QBs to ever play.

It is not the fact that he lost. It is how he lost. It was another playoff dud game from him. If he had played well and they still lost, the discussion would have been very different.

I like what I’m seeing in terms of a younger coaching staff. Will be a completely different feel and energy vs previous regime.

12 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm sure we would take a 1st round pick next year for him.

We’ll package him and Burns to Rams for two firsts?

Here is my favorite analytics cheat from Josh Norris for drafting o-linemen (look away Mr Scot, it’s analytics):
 

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

As with most things in this process, if it's a Canales decision, I'm on board with it. If it's a Tepper decision, I question it.

I'd really like to believe Tepper isn't stupid enough to keep another "boss's informant" around in the wake of last year's mess, but I've learned to never underestimate just how dumb Tepper can be in these matters.

For what it's worth though, I would agree with those who say that doesn't seem consistent with Jim Caldwell's character.

I think Caldwell is a perfect mentor and advisor for Canales, I’m happy he’s staying.

26 minutes ago, MtnJax said:

This. I don’t even think about 3-4 vs 4-3 any more. At best you just think of it as what base front do you run? 3 DL vs 4 DL. Everything else in the back 7-8 varies after that

Very fair. In my mind I was thinking of how you build the front 4 vs a front 3 with OLBs.  Very different type of players depending on what you do.

The big question is if Canales likes a 3-4? If not I don’t see Evero staying. Also, if it is likely a 1 year thing as his contract expires next year, who would take over and run said 3-4 if he leaves? They might also with great together for all I know, but since we are in a rebuild stage, do you continue with pieces for a defense that might not be here long?

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Just happy for a former HC that's all.

 

 

You should try and just say that instead of the usual nonsense