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I think they would try to trade back, but if they don’t get a good enough offer, they will draft a QB

40 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I agree. But Canales doesn't see it that way it appears. Or he is forced to.

I think he agrees, and will make a point this week showcasing once again how terrible Bryce is. With Andy’s injury, that is what I would do

1 hour ago, Carolina Cajun said:

absolutely, but hes  running the reciever style TE, and he's improving.  I think his hands are improving, he needs to work on blocking, but for a rookie he's pretty darn good so far...better than weve seen from a rookie TE maybe ever.

Agree with this, very promising, I think he has a chance to be really good. He’s only 21.

25 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

I get the blocking issues it’s the cbs stopping these TEs in their stride one on one that infuriates me 

I didn’t watch the whole game, but I feel Sanders fights for every yard. On one catch he had three guys on him and he still moved forward. I don’t see him as soft at all.

The question is (it is not really a question tbh), do you want to develop the young WRs and TEs, or do you want to give it another go with Bryce? These are two mutually exclusive options.

Developing WRs and TEs is the no brainer answer. Bryce is who he is, no playtime will change that, he is not part of our future.

19 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think it's what fans, media and possibly Tepper thought he was because other qbs he was around had good seasons and assumed he was here to fix Bryce. Nevermind that he wasn't their qb coach during their turnaround. The only time he had a direct effect on an offense is in Tampa as an OC for 1 season. Somehow that translates in a qb whisperer. How, I do not know.

I agree, I never got the QB whisper thing. What I think he does is design a good system to help a capable QB (btw, Bryce is not a capable QB) do well. And that’s what we’ve seen with Andy so far. I like Canales so far and I’ll think he’ll be here for a long time. We just need to get a good young QB that he can work with. 

I’m open to it as long as we don’t trade up. There are some interesting QBs in this group that can become something. And things will change over the next 2-3 months as we get in to the playoffs etc. Daniels was not considered a top prospect at this time last year if I remember correctly. 

At some point you have to try to keep some good players. Diontae is worth keeping, Michael Jackson is worth keeping, Dalton on a two year contract is worth keeping. Our O is not bad, so let’s keep those pieces in place while we add to the defense, and we’re starting to get somewhere. I’m not saying to overpay, but around market value we should definitely do it.

Really encouraging so far, like what I’ve seen from Legette and Coker, Wallace is very active and is already making the defensive calls, I’m high on Sanders, he just needs more time. Brooks is tbd, but he has a lot of potential 

45 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Did anyone notice who the target was on Dalton's first INT?  Let a defender in trail position cut across his face as his QB was scrambling.  He didn't even have the instincts to try to play the defender role as he realized the ball was being picked off.

 

Ian Thomas, this quote from him makes it even worse:

love to see that Coker is getting more snaps than Mingo. I thought so yesterday and here are the numbers. We need to keep Andy in there to help develop the young guys.
 

1 hour ago, TarHeel69 said:

JaTavion Sanders had more receptions than Ian Thomas (I know...water is wet).

Legette is going to be solid in at least a Muhsin Muhammad kind of way.

Coker runs some very clean routes and should be featured more.  Kind of see him taking over the Thielen role next year.

I know it was another loss but it was nice seeing some rookies stepping up.

Add what you want to. 

Agree with you. Also loved that Sanders got every yard he could out of his catches. Hopefully the young guys will continue to grow, makes it fun to watch the games and will help us greatly next year.

Just now, bigdog_10_2002 said:

Bears and Falcons have both run hurry up. They have zero respect for Wallace being able to get guys into the right spots calling the plays. 

Yes, but what is Evero doing to help him? 

He got the HC role 1-2 years too early, but that is what you have to do when a team is as bad as ours. That said, I like him benching Young, not being afraid playing young guys, some really good playcalling (ups and downs are expected for a young coach). 

I think he can become a good one, he seems smart, he’s a strong communicator etc. he just needs some time to settle in and gain experience, as well as updating the roster to fit what he’s looking for.

Here’s my take. Initially Tepper trusted the wrong people which led to Rhule, Rhule led to Fitt. Terrible start. 

Not sure if it was Rhule or Fitt, kept Fitt which was another massive mistake, leading to Young and Reich. 

Now we have Dan (still up in the air, but I’m hopeful) and Canales (I think he’ll be here for a long time, I think we found the right guy).

Tepper wants to win, if you think otherwise you are plain wrong. He has just trusted and hired the wrong people. When will he get it right? Or has he finally done it? 

There are a lot of bad GMs and HCs out there. A lot of teams struggle with the same thing. It is baffling to watch all these moves across the league, and tbh,  a lot of times it feels like the casual fan would do a better job. Just look at the Giants, Jets, Browns etc. 49ers, Detroit etc. were terrible for a long time. 

I’m hopeful Canales is our guy, if not it will take us a while to get there. This year is all about showing progress and improvement. If we do that, this was a successful year for me.
 

He’s a solid LT. Just leave him where he is. 

7 hours ago, Montie_0123 said:

The team very well might have drafted another solid 1st round pick. Back to back solid games from the rookie in the time given.

I agree, very promising and exciting start for the young rookie 

2 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

This year Jewell. We can’t even cut him this offseason. 
 

Dan Morgan wanted Bryce Young. 
 

So he wanted to see this through as well. Like you said, it was clear as day last year that Bryce isn’t an NFL QB. What progress did we make this past offseason? We found 2 guards. That’s literally the ONLY thing Dan can hang his hat on for an entire offseason worth of work

I thought the Dionte trade was really good, the MJ pickup at corner looks really good to me. Not sure what else to ask from our CBs when we have 0 pressure on the QB. A’Shawn Robinson looks good, Clowney at $10M a year is not bad etc. But it sounds like we look at it very differently. DB getting injured was a rough one that really sunk the D imo

37 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

The Brooks pick is going to look really stupid today 

Zach Frazier has been awesome for the Steelers. Corbett has been hurt the last 2 seasons and Dan invested a crap load of money at the guard positions 

Brooks isn’t anything crazy special and now our IOL is most likely going to go to crap with Corbett out. Which could’ve easily been predicted. Corbett is a FA after this season anyways so center was always a massive need.

This roster is by far the least talented roster in the league. Yesterday confirmed that. Dan spent real money this past offseason to achieve this. 
 

Dan is a massive part of the problem here

Which FA signing is your biggest issue? 

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Passing up Payton Wilson for Tevin Wallace was a huge red flag for me.  I think Morgan is a better pro scout than college.

What about Wilson’s 13 tackles in 5 games stands out? Why is it a huge red flag for you?

36 minutes ago, CRA said:

If only we had a RB that was busting them for 5 yards a pop….it would have setup the play action and easier pass opportunities if a HC had prioritized that.  Oh wait….

I agree with Canales having a rough game, but it seems like the point of this thread was to bash Andy.

The Bears defense was ranked #2 against the pass, and ranked 3 on takeaways. This was always a very tough matchup for Dalton.

What happened to Legette, I missed most of the first half

I hope we don’t trade him, I hope we sign him to an extension 

58 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I got to imagine the pressure on Ewers has to be insane going into that game

Him coming back and playing at a high level with all that pressure will tell us a lot about him, and I think he will.