Dave Gettleman's Shorts

4 hours ago, Basbear said:

Old JJ from when the observer was a stepping stone to a much better Job.

This is the guy I am trying to figure out-

 

 

He makes comments about players and minutes after the same video is used again. 

Paging @Mr. Scot for the life line...

 

he's a scout 

https://www.panthers.com/team/ownership_business/caden-mccloughan

2 hours ago, chknwing said:

we signed Wolverine

adamantium? adam? adam thielen super bowl game winning catch ?

2 hours ago, Seltzer said:

I think Sanders can be a legit weapon for us, but like others are saying, there's still only 1 football to go around...

 

It's a good problem to have, but with the mouths to feed at WR and with hopefully running the ball a lot behind this Oline that is suited for that, a season of 500-600 yards and 5ish TDs would be great for Sanders... and for the team.

5 TD would break Ian Thomas career TDs

46 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Rewatched again - and noticed some fun stuff--

Then they claimed that we started engaging once Ez and JTT were picked in a row at 44-45, so LAR, AZ, HOU, CIN, & SEA were the teams we likely called before the deal at 51 w/Denver.   

Brandt goes "I texted John an offer" that's either John McKay, the Asst GM of LAR or John Schneider of SEA.  I think it was SEA, we had likely exhausted enough energy with LAR.  So my read is we said no to a trade at 50 that was in SEA's favor, and worked with DEN to get a really balanced package.  Strong work there not submitting to the Seahawks wishes.  

Then, once the focus got to the next pick - I found it super interesting.  We knew we wanted Princely - There were a few strongly identified targets by the sounds of it beginning in the 60s but Princely was the guy we really wanted.  The video was edited A LOT so that a lot of the calls and negotiations were shown before/during/after Nic's pick.

Targeting him was as soon as KC at 66 (from Sneed), or BUF's new spot at 72 as they showed us calling them and negotiating. 

Beane wanted 114+85 for 72 which is dead even on trade charts, but Dan didn't want to just give up 114 to move up.  He emphasized to "Stay patient" which was good.  Sounds like SF apparently wanted even more for 75. 

Our unnamed prospect tier was now down to 2 guys - Brandt asked about their odds at 85.  Those odds were now 41%.   You hear in the back "They've got 3 threes" -that was NE.   And, we are clearly, very tight with Wolff in NE.  He called us ahead of pick 77 to negotiate that one.  With their pick abundance, we were able to work out a more favorable deal. 

77 for 85 and 146 (5).  Not bad at all compared to giving up 85 and 114 (4) for 72 and getting the same guy.  That's how you don't overdraft.  

not staying "patient" and taking bad draft day trades is how we end up with DJ Johnson and Matt corral

1 hour ago, jb2288 said:

Damn wonder what made it take so long to get the surgery done 

most likely trying to see if the injury would get better with rest and rehab for a few months 

but looks like they weren't making any progress, thus, needing surgery

however, not sure why waited until the end of May to decide he needed surgery

1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

Dude, if the Dallas Mavericks somehow magically ending up with the top overall pick, isn’t one of the clearest signs of it being rigged that I’ve ever seen. I don’t know what is.

like nobody is actually believing this right?

Mavs had a 1.8% odds of winning the number 1 overall pick btw

In 2008, the Bulls had a 1.7% chance of winning the top pick which ended up being Chicago native, D-rose

43 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I sorta hope we go with Moehrig and Ransom--veteran and rookie.  I also think they are somewhat high on Richardson.  We re-signed Scott to an minimal, non-guaranteed contract for insurance. We have 3 UDFA safeties on the roster.  I think THEY THINK we are set. 

besides mike minter, safeties always been an after thought in this franchise

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think it has anything to do with Chinn. I mean, Chinn was a LB/safety tweener where Walker is am EDGE/LB tweener. Really different players and how we used Chinn was really kinda forced on us by our roster. He wasn't good in a deep safety role but he was the best option we had. Now I would argue that we should've still used Chinn where he was most effective but that's just me. I don't see how you're making a D better by misusing one of your better talents.

It does seem like the Raiders are finally starting to use him how he should be used if you're going to play him at safety.

we picked up two in box, run defense specialists at safety this offseason in both Ransom and Moerhig but Evero never bothered to play Chinn in that role

besides being closer to home at A&M, was there a reason Scourton left Purdue?

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I met Shaq at an OTA---if you recall, he was absent until the end due to Washington being on the quarter system. He was very nice--soft spoken--but I was thinking "Linebacker?" As an OLB in a 4-3, he was small.  I did not see 6'0"--I saw 5'10-5'11 tops and maybe 220.  When we converted to a 3-4, that moved him inside and, in my opinion, shortened his career.  He just does not have the frame for ILB duties.  If you watch enough film, you will see that Shaq often was late getting to the hole and tackled from the side a lot.  Morgan and Luke were in the hole square with the LOS and talking on blocks and RBs head on.  Had Shaq met pulling guards and fullbacks in the hole like that, he would not have lasted 4 years. He had a very frail frame. 

Shaq was supposed to be TD's successor as an 4-3 outside linebacker next to Luke

James Bradberry is available too

can he play nickel?

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Luke Kandra has draftable grades 

Luke K from Cincinnati, Ohio!??

1 minute ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

Ravens always make the most pure selections 

starks and Hamilton at safeties

going the bengals route, all offense and no defense

2 hours ago, Shocker said:

I guess I am not getting it…of course he will play LB.  OLB or ILB.  What else would he play?  Weird

its a joke in response to dan Morgan stating the obvious and not further clarifying his statement

16 minutes ago, PanthersGTI said:

Sounds like WR late. Which I am okay with, they seemed to have shown some ability to find talent late with Coker.

 

 

would like for them to pick up a field stretcher/speedster/KR/PR

34 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Yes

if the panthers draft Jalon Walker, he'll play linebacker in 3-4 defense

if there's a QB that another team wants to trade up for sitting at 8, take the deal especially if there is a future first involved.

"fug it, Julio down there somewhere"

7 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

if being only 6’2”+ is the worst thing about you, i think he’s going to have a bright future.

Charles johnson was only 6'2 and he had a productive career before getting injured against the patriots

you know what, Bryce on Peds doesn't sound like a bad idea

genetic freak with poor work ethic and production

these are the players you gamble a 2nd round pick on and not a top 10

1 hour ago, Lame Duck said:

Dude will be a nightmare in NFL… amazing heads.  Catching everything with hands.  None of that bullshit body catching.

"amazing heads" is all I needed to hear