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I'm not terribly confident I can tell what number the guy holding the trophy is wearing...

8 hours ago, CPcavedweller said:

Bryce threw some bad balls that would make that appear to be the case. He was often late on throws and Chark bailed him out several times. 

Chark bail him out? Bryce was having to throw precision passes while he was blanketed in coverage because Chark could not get open. And Bryce was trying to make something happen. Chark was making highlight reel catches because Bryce was putting it in a window that only he could get it. The only receiver that was bailing out Bryce was Theilan. He was the only receiver that was able to get open or would try to fight back to the ball

1 hour ago, rodeo said:

Russ did not have some immaculate deep ball on the Seahawks. In fact most of his deep passes were wobblers that his receivers made adjustments for in a way that Mingo could not even dream about.

Bryce threw some beautiful deep balls to Jameson Williams at Alabama. Now that he has a couple NFL quality receivers (hopefully), he should be fine running that scheme.

People said all this exact same poo about Tua after year 1. He can't throw deep, he has a weak arm, etc. Then they signed Tyreek Hill and suddenly he had a great deep ball. Amazing how that works.

I'm sincerely happy to see there are still level-headed individuals around here.

Just now, Jon Snow said:

That's it? I thought most of the teams in the league had it they way some talk on here. 

Seems like one team every other year or so lights up the scoreboard. It rarely leads to a championship. The Chiefs of a few years back may be the exception. The Dolphins may be about as close as it got last year, but even they fizzled out.

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm talking about on any team. I keep hearing that but have yet to see an example. The last high flying offense I've seen was the Rams "Greatest Show on Turf". Since then it's been just average for passing offenses across the league. 

2013 Broncos and 2007 Patriots are the two that come to mind for me. Both Super Bowl losers, oddly enough.

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Say what you want about Kyler and his commitment to his craft ie playing Call of Duty or whatever. But he clearly isn't afraid of putting in time and effort in the weight room as a #1 overall draft pick. That's kind of a necessity if you want to be the guy for a franchise. Well unless you're the Carolina Panthers apparently.

Who cares if your quarterback is jacked or not? Brady Quinn and The Golden Calf of Bristol failed miserably and they obviously hit the weights hard.

36 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, we don't even know Canales is really taking a hands on approach. All we really know what the Panther PR machine puts out for us to consume. 

Canales frankly shouldn't have time to really work with Bryce Young much.  He is a first year HC with an entire team to figure out. 

At this point in the season he should have plenty of time to work with Bryce. Come training camp? Much less.

But one thing that Canales should be doing as a first year head coach, is not trying to do too much. He hired assistants for a reason. Let them do their jobs.

Canales can bounce around and insert his insights when he feels appropriate, but everyone knows that he was hired in major part to his ability to mold quarterbacks and wide receivers. He would be doing a huge disservice to the team, and to the career he built to get here, if he didn't allot time to his areas of "expertise."

Lets leave the evaluation aspect to the regular season, yeah?

Some of you look at a 5 second clip and prognosticate an entire season and offseason based on it. This part of the year is about footwork, route concepts, ball placement, and timing. It's running through the playbook.

It's not reading defenses, adjusting protections, calling audibles, facing pressure, evaluating down and distance, installing situational packages, etc.

All you can take from the clip is that work is being done, it was a well-thrown ball (over the shoulder and in-stride, on the sideline) and that Canales is happy with what he is seeing and is clearly taking a direct and on-hand approach to coaching. Anything other than that is projection of your internal biases.

Honestly cannot wait for Bryce to go out and start cooking. It is going to be awesome.

I actually like Bucky Irving a lot. I wouldn't be upset if we took him.... In the 4th round. Maybe the 3rd with a trade back. 

18 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

its 59 spots, saying you flip picks is disingenuous and again the ability to maneuver the 33 pick if you wanted as XL would still be there and quite possibly even at 39 or wherever you trade to in between if that was the strategy.  Feels like the corral move, feels like the DJ move.  Panicking for no reason

Panicking? If the Bills wanted Legette, they wouldn't have traded. They gave us a call as a courtesy to ask if we wanted the 5th year option for Legette, and we struck a deal. This was a business decision. Pure and simple.

Bills knew they could get their guy either way. They asked us to compensate them for the 5th year option. Makes sense.

Here's my prediction for Rounds 2 and 3:

- We move back from 39 and pick up an extra 5th. We draft Mike Sainristil somewhere in the 40s

- We move up to the back end of the 2nd (costing the 5th we just picked up) and take either Payton Wilson, Edgerrin Cooper, or Ben Sinnott (Likely in that order), depending on who is available. 

I like JPJ, but it would hinge largely on the medical. Same for Payton Wilson.

But I think they really do like Sainristil. I'm not keen on taking a nickel in the 2nd round, but they emphasized needing "system" guys. If I had to guess, I think he is the target in round 2. But I hope they trade back a bit and acquire more draft capital before they take him.

Edit: Nevermind. Not worth it.

Yes to Wilson. Hell no to Shipley in the 3rd.

It's gonna be Payton Wilson. I'm pretty sure about that.

Panthers on the clock!

With all of these QBs going in round 1, pick 33 is going to be even more coveted because of who is going to be available. 

9 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Once again, if he learned anything from that, he will sit back and watch it play out.

18 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Tepper isn't the GM. And if he has learned anything in the past couple of years, he will sit his fat, rich ass in the background and let Morgan do his job.

Doubtful. I think we want more picks, if anything. But, if the wide receiver run happens earlier and more voraciously than predicted, I think we have to find a way to get in front of Kansas City and maybe even San Fran. 

1 hour ago, PanthersGTI said:

Someone with more draft knowledge with me can help puzzle this out :

Canales said that when he was in Seattle, everyone on the offensice staff + ST were excited about Tyler Lockett. He said they are looking for a guy like that and it sounds like they found him. Who could it be? Who could excite on ST as well? 

How about Malik Washington? Guy was a monster on offense and special teams last year.

1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

My biggest problem with him is hes all speed.  Hes slight of frame and isnt going to make contested catches and doesnt run great routes.  Hes either screens or deep bombs.  You run a 4.21 the first couple routes and then you slow down.  When he slows down hes useless so you have to make sure to keep him fresh.  I think hes awesome as a luxury pick, but we arent in the position to make a luxury pick.

I didn't see that when I watched him at all. He plays tough. He is not a finesse receiver. He mixes it up over the middle and will fight back to the ball. I think the issue with Worthy is that he needs to be more of a hands catcher. Lots of body catches. But that can be coached and trained. DJ Moore had similar issues coming out and he was able to get much better with it.

We badly need a draft to have more hits than misses. I'm hoping they have those players in mind and a few different plans in place to get them.