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It's like anything else. The leadership and staff needs to have a clear vision and communicate their expectations. Then the players have to buy in, hold themselves and each other accountable, and follow through. 

2 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Didn’t Smitty and Lucas fight before the 05 season?  Maybe fighting shows they care vs the last 7 years. I like it too. 

Didn't Smitty buy him Dunkin donuts as an apology? Like sorry I cracked your eyesocket, have a bagel. What a douche.

Brindamour better regroup and figure out a new strategy. Canes were out muscled and out hustled all game. 

We can't keep up with them. They play faster.

39 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Probably not, they would just say he is moving in a positive direction and the big leap is next year.

Supporting Bryce is based on continued growth, which he has shown. If he regresses to the state he was in last year in the first two games? Then it is time to move on.

The issue is that he HAS shown growth and the haters are trying to assess him as the player prior to his ascension. And they seem to almost be rooting for his failure. It's sad.

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

I'm a bryce hater, if he put up those numbers i would never say a bad thing about him again.  Now, if he puts up 2900 17 and 9 will you want to move on from him?

Honestly, if he can't crack 3000 yards over 17 games, then yes.

Some of you Bryce haters can call yourself realists all you want to but even if he did put up those stats or better next year, you would all just say "well let's see if he can do it again, because a lot of quarterbacks have had one good season" or "not that he's good so much as he has so much talent around him". You wouldn't give him the credit he's due and it's exhausting

24 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I think it was better than last year's.  I still wouldn't call it great.   I would say pff loved it and we took high pff guys because Eric Eager's fingerprints were all over this draft.   I think that's a good thing.

He was seated right next to Morgan, looked to be in the thick of things when picks were being made, and I even saw him dialing the number for at least one guy we were drafting. If this draft works out, we may have a new process of selecting players. Analytics like Eager's may change how scouting is done (or what is asked of scouts) in the future. Data processes the player, scouts may analyze the person.

4 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

Shoulda made them forfeit next year’s first oh wait they already did

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

Marcus Blumberg, Mel Kiper, and Nate Davis can all suck a dick

Something tells me Kiper would willing gag on a certain Cleveland Browns rookie 5th rounder. 

17 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I actually put my phone on airplane mode around the 5th pick.

While I know my friends, if we took T-Mac, they'd have let me have the moment and would have kept quiet.  But if they saw we took someone else on Twitter before it was shown, I don't think they'd have been able to hold back from sending some half cryptic text.

In the end, I was right, if they did see it beforehand, nobody texted me, but I'm still glad I did it as it gave me a moment that I'll kinda never forget.  And I say kinda, because while I won't forget Thursday night, in a way, I kinda blacked out for the next hour, at one point I looked up and saw they were on like the 12th or 13th pick at that point, I had zero idea what had gone on, my head was still spinning.

I actually completely understand this, sadly lol. I had the same reaction when we drafted Luke. I did so much research on him and wanted no one else in the 1st round. He was the guy. When Goodell read his name on the card, I lost it. I called my uncle (another diehard Panthers fan) and got lost in celebrating until I looked up and 10 picks had gone by.

2 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I think that’s very fair and I sincerely hope it does. I can’t believe I have turned in to a BY defender. 

I'll be honest, I thought I was going to have to jump ship after the first two games of last season. Which sucked because I don't usually get MASSIVE and UNSHAKEABLE conviction about a lot of guys in the draft, but Bryce was one that I did. The only other pick I wanted more than Bryce was Luke. 

3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Objectively, what sort of stats does Bryce need to put up in passing yards/TDs/TOs for the ones that are still on the fence to come around? 

Yes, it’s a very loaded question. 

I'm not on the fence at all, but I think INDIVIDUAL stats that SHOULD silence the critics would be something like:

60+ completion %

3500 yards passing

25 TDs 10 Ints

150-200 yards rushing and 3 TDs

When Cam was quarterback and needed help after his first two years and we rarely brought him any: Can we get the man some receivers and some tackles?! He would kill it if he had help!

When Bryce is quarterback, needs help, and we continually try to bring in help for him instead of drafting a replacement after year 2: Are we coddling him? 

Huddle gonna huddle.

One of the things that makes TMac an interesting big receiver prospect, is how low he can dip his hips in and out of breaks. This may not seem like a meaningful trait to most, but this is something that, physically, a lot of big guys cannot do well. This limits their flexibility, their ability to beat man to man, and the ability to make themselves skinny/small in run after the catch in traffic. 

This has been an asset to him, particularly on 3rd down and in the red zone. Both places this offense struggled receiver-wise. 

If you rewatch any videos of him, watch him on 3rd and in red zone. He seems to always get open and he never drops a ball. Other situations? Sure, he can use some development to create separation, but here? He's a weapon already.

Smitty has little man syndrome, even in his evaluations. It seems like every receiver over 6'2 he has to belittle or take down a notch. He is a classic example of not being able to take emotion out of evaluation. He builds up the little, tough guys because he relates to them. But he looks at the fluid, effortless big guys as being overrated or not hard working. He's usually wrong about a lot of his assessments because he can't get outside of his own head.

This season, Bryce is going to validate the trade and selection we made for him. This team is truly building something.

21 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

Jacolby George is a dude. He is just a tough SOB with great hands, special agility, and great body control. He should have been drafted. 

Preseason, Scourton was being looked at as a potential top 10-15 pick. His role at A&M really muted his abilities. We might have gotten a real steal here.

With these and the signing of Hunter Renfrow, we are sitting at like 97 players. Look for some movement of guys on the roster over the next 48 hours. Cuts, trades, etc.

Etienne is our true receiving threat out of the backfield. That was actually something that Miles Sanders brought to the table that we hadn't replaced until now.

23 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

We drafted an adverb.

As an English teacher, I appreciate this post

Scourton is a dawg. He is a selfless, team-first player. He does whatever it takes to help the defense be successful. 

23 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

And yet, his challenges come against the run. Technique or recognition maybe?