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2 hours ago, @bonafidebanter said:
The Cowboys OL is not that good outside of Tyron Smith and Zach Martin. The center Biadasz and the left guard Connor Williams are terrible. Their RT Steele is a second year undrafted free agent that has been playing better than they thought, but he's still an UDFA and I think he can be fooled by Phil Snow and his schemes.
Will say that the reason I expect this defense to feast is precisely because of their center. His ineptitude will make it difficult for the Cowboys to diagnose Phil Snow's scheme. And unfortunately for the Cowboys, that will be their big weak link that will be capitalized on.
If you want to compete with Snow's defense, you want to be sure you have a smart guy under center. I do not believe their center is capable of keeping up with our scheme whatsoever and might have his head on a swivel. Their offensive line will be having trouble all day.
Ultimately though, it will come down to whether the Panthers can stop the Cowboys from passing. Very likely Dak will be getting the ball out real quick and if our defensive backside can't capitalize it without Horn, that will be the only concerning point. The Chargers gave an interesting blueprint and kept it close to the Cowboys - let them run all over you, but as long as you hold down their attack through the air, you can keep it close. Luckily for the Panthers, they are very stout in general and I am not too concerned about whether Snow can scheme against the Cowboys.
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5 hours ago, Snake said:
We would have wiped the floor with Houston if the flag happy refs would have called a fair game. That's my only concern for Dallas. They love giving them flags too.
Yep, that Houston game was atrocious with the reffing. Perhaps one of the most incomptent displays I've seen in a long while.
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This was an interesting thing I came across. Even with consideration for the strength of the Panthers opponents, Football Outsider's DVOA considers them #1 in the NFL through three games:
If I told you that I was applying opponent adjustments early without showing you the table of the top teams in DVOA, you probably would guess that Carolina would be one of the teams to take a big hit. Surprisingly, the Panthers stay almost exactly the same. Sure, the Panthers have played the Jets, and the Jets have been very bad. They've also played the Texans, but the Texans haven't been horrendous in the early going. They currently rank 19th in DVOA. The Panthers also dismantled a Saints team that played phenomenal in its other two games, and now ranks eighth in DVOA. So there isn't much opponent adjustment for Carolina, and the Panthers stay in the No. 1 spot (40.1%).
Ironically, if it weren't for opponent adjustments, they'd be 5th place as of this week.
Certainly encouraging to see, especially considering quality of opponents were a part of this.
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1 hour ago, glenwo2 said:
I think mav's point was that Sam can make all the throws and not be checkdown Charlie or rather Checkdown Teddy like some here said earlier.
Ah sorry original reply didn't mean to implicate Mav who I replied to, but the quotes of those who think Sam Darnold is just checkdown charlie, so agreeing with his point.
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18 hours ago, mav1234 said:
Where are the posters saying Darnold can only hit check downs to CMC?
Where are the posters questioning his leadership?
Come on out, guys. Tell me why Darnold isnt going to work out because he's the same he was in NY under Gase.
It's pretty easy to see who doesn't actually watch the game based on the people who post this.
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6 hours ago, outlaw4 said:
That said, what Darnold did in the second half is going to get him more respect, not just from the fans and media but more importantly, opposing defenses. Obviously, we shouldn't put everything on him but tonight, we all but had to and without CMC, he delivered.
This.
Whether it continues remains to be seen. But he has proven to handle the pressure under adversity, and I hope it continues.
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2 minutes ago, Fox007 said:
I heard Mark Sanchez talk about holding onto the ball with both hands instead of one and I did notice Sam in the pocket still has one hand on the ball. He does have to stop that shyte there. Sanchez was talking about himself btw not Darnold but something I was looking for this game.
Very true. Hoping this long week brings about a ton of lessons and training with ball security for Sam Darnold.
He's shown he can be tough as seen with his evasion of Cam Jordan's near sack against him last week, but he needs to grip on the ball better with both hands.
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22 minutes ago, Shocker said:
Seriously, we already have a Davis type in Rolls Royce. He is a solid all around back
Yep. Loved Royce Freeman's college tape when I evaluated him and compared him similarly to Jonathan Stewart. He has a lot of potential and I hope this team finds that and brings it out.
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Not a blessing, but it is a potential bright spot.
Losing the best safety valve of this offense is never ideal. 100 times out of 10 you'd rather have CMC healthy and Sam Darnold slowly getting acclimated to stepping up.
Nevertheless, it does jump the schedule for Darnold to start making plays for himself. His work tonight showed he does have what it takes. However, being able to build upon it and do it consistently is the question.
Ideally, he gets a few more weeks to get his groove in, but circumstances have brought him to the frontlines. Hopefully he shows he has what it takes.
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The shipwreck of injuries that came due to the onslaught of the injury bug was not kind at all to the Panthers. Losing Christian McCaffrey while only up by one point at the half was a soulcrusher that almost killed off all hope.
Nevertheless, Sam Darnold stayed firm.
Coming into this game, the Panthers were lucky to face two depleted teams - one bottom of the league's barrel, and the other riddled with their own covid and injury woes. Carolina took them by storm as they should.
However, the question remained: could the Panthers comeback when faced with adversity of their own, and more importantly is Sam Darnold right for the job?
Well, this crippled ship took sail once more the next half and Sam Darnold was more than impressive.
With the Texans manhandling our soft o-line, Darnold stood firm and poised. Throwing for 300+ yards and accounting for two touchdowns, he did not let the wreckage around him bring him down. Rather, he took charge and was effective in the most perilous of conditions, from the stormy rains of tight coverage and big time throws, to facing off against the crashing waves of that defensive front.
He looked like a true leader and franchise QB. Despite the odds pointing against the Panthers, he did not falter and took up the challenge. He managed the offense efficiently and made big plays to will the Panthers to a win.
This game right here is proof that Sam Darnold may be the greatest QB the Panthers have had since 2018, and answered whether they could handle adversity. He took charge and was effective.
For the price of a second round pick, this captain of this cripped team is well worth it. Hoping to see further improvement and more the same in weeks to follow, when the waves get more rough against much tougher teams and more tests are to be overcome.
Give it up for Darnold; he has shown he has what it takes.
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Just now, Shocker said:
Good to see Saca posting again…and yeah next man up like Smitty said. Perfect opportunity to show something for these guys
Got a little more leeway in my schedule to keep up with the Panthers a bit more this year. Maybe not enough time for the posts I used to make, but hopefully I get a bit more active in here.
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3 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:
I’m all in on Howard.
Sheesh didn't even notice. Been one hell of a night.
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100% for it. Without Horn the secondary's a liability again.
The question is whether he'd even want to go to Carolina.
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The injury bug tonight was not kind to the Panthers. Claiming the hamstring of McCaffrey and the foot of Horn, they have lost some significant pieces to the team.
Going forward, without the threat of McCaffrey, it is likely Hubbard who'll face the bulk of the snaps with a few spells by Royce Freeman. With Hubbard's first half being thrown in the dirt and a revitalized second, it will be interesting to see which tale of two halves is Hubbard's true form. Additionally, will be interesting to see how Joe Brady adjusts.
Now, defensively, with Jaycee Horn looking to miss some significant time, it appears our secondary has opened up to some nasty holes. AJ Bouye rested, most likely to ensure he gets back to conditioning speed and open up better chemistry with the team. Will he be the stopholder this team needs to help man the CB spot with Horn out?
Perhaps Richard Sherman see the Panthers secondary as a boat in SOS and helps plug it up?
Hoping to see good answers going forward. It's a long week until our next test against the Cowboys.
What's y'alls thoughts on our next guys up? Think they'll be able to carry this crippled ship forward, or will the Panthers shipwreck and fall to the bottom of the ocean?
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Lol y'all Sam's no Cam Newton. He wouldn't have been able to - nor should be expected to - block that.
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Erickson with the big play and Tremble with the TD.
Not what I expected to turn the momentum.
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at least this defense is fun
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An interesting inactive tonight it appears.
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6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:
“He now has the personnel to be as creative as he wants”
Again, like I’ve said this is a big reason why Jaycee was such a good pick. The lack of talent in our secondary last year really limited Snow in what he could call.
Very good point.
Having a talented secondary helps our defense so much. Just the coverage we were able to do against the Saints allowed for our front to feast and the whole defense to crank out their fury.
Jaycee shutting down his part of the field is critical to their success.
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One of the best reads I've seen on the Panthers defense and just how formidable it already it (shoutout @ellis for posting on twitter). Phil Snow is an absolute mastermind with the players we have on defense and it shows.
https://matchquarters.substack.com/p/the-multiplicity-of-the-panthers
The article goes in-depth concerning just how many versatile packages Phil Snow ran with this group.
QuoteAs stated, though Carolina bases from a 4-3, they don’t live it. The multiplicity allows the Panthers to match up their athletes against those of the offense. In their first two games, the Panthers have used several alignments to match their opponent.
Despite their 4-3 base, they never truly stick with it. The article highlights many different looks the Panthers have employed - a testament to the formidibility and talent of the players, as well as the ingenuity of Phil Snow.
Personnel packages the article highlights from the first two games include:
* 3-4
* 5-1
* 4-3
* 4-2-5 (Big Nickel)
* 4 Down Dime
I highly recommend reading the article and just how effective the Panthers are in these various formations. It's an incredible sight to behold.
Another interesting nugget is seeing the parallels Snow is making with this group and how his approach and success in college is showcasing a similar path in Carolina:
QuoteSnow has been handed the keys to a highly athletic group. For most of Snow’s career, it has been the second or third year when his defenses begin to jump. The trend is no different in Charlotte. His ability to adapt to his surroundings and personnel have made him one of the top college DCs, and now it appears he is one of the best in the NFL. What is strikingly clear in the first two weeks of the ‘21 season is that Snow will use his athletic personnel in multiple ways.
The adaptability of Snow was no more clear than his final year at Baylor. Within the first two years, Rhule and Snow knew they had a problem. The Big 12 was eating them up on defense, and a change needed to be made. The experiment in Ames with the 3-3-3 was now taking over the Big 12. Snow decided to try his hand at the system, and it paid dividends.
Moving to the NFL, many asked if the 3-3-5 would follow. It did, but by no means is it the Panthers’ base. Instead, Snow has learned from experiences at the college game how to develop a hybrid defense, and the ‘21 season appears to be a culmination of his adaptability as a coach. He now has the personnel to be as creative as he wants.
Just incredible seeing that Snow's approach is methodical and effective. He has a clear vision that bore fruit in Baylor, and now it appears that same approach is about to take the NFL by storm.
Ultimately, the article concludes that the versatility and possibilities of these defense make it one that's a huge headache for any offense to keep up with and likely one that few will have an answer to for a long while:
QuoteThe Panthers’ ability to be multiple and get their hybrids into situations to win their matchups is what has stood out in this young year. The additions and development of several players on defense have opened Snow’s playbook and creativity. Opposing offenses will have to deal with a defense that can match most packages that they throw at it. Only time will tell if the Panthers will remain at the top of the NFL standings in defense, but if history has proven anything, Phil Snow has a knack for turning around defenses and putting top groups together.
We are seeing in Carolina a culmination of Phil Snow’s experience at the college level and being flexible when needed. In addition, his ability to create a defense that highlights his players' strengths is something all coaches can study. As the 2021 season gets rolling, the Panthers have already made noise and barring injury, and it looks like they are here to stay for the time being.
This is a defense to get excited for. Phil Snow built a juggernaut of versatility that will be exciting to see.
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25 minutes ago, @bonafidebanter said:
I was JUST thinking this watching the high lights on NFL Network. There are 7 teams that are 2-0. I'm calling the NFL Network Power Rankings will have the Panthers at 10. That's how it seems historically with these rankings. Hope I'm wrong tho.
NBC Sports already has the Panthers at 16, the lowest 2-0 team by far, and only two above the Saints:
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/2021-nfl-power-rankings-where-49ers-sit-after-week-2-win
>16. Carolina Panthers (2-0): Sam Darnold passed for 300 yards for the first time since Week 12 of the 2019 season. What a difference going from Adam Gase to Joe Brady makes.
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4 hours ago, t96 said:
damn Saca where you been bro
Busy with life. But checking back in periodically while I can.
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Panthers vs Cowboys: Three Keys to the Game
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The Panthers face off against America's darlings at their home stadium this coming Sunday. With the Panthers boasting a 3-0 record and the Cowboys a 2-1 and their only loss being against the former Superbowl Champs, this is a game that comes with both fanbases being quite confident in their respective teams.
This by no means will be an easy game for the good guys. While they have come across a resounding win against the Saints who have turned over and been prolific against the Packers and Patriots, they also took advantage of relatively poorer teams in the Jets and Texans. Even with the Saints win, there are questions as to whether their injuries and coaching woes played the biggest role in those loses. Additionally, the Panthers are entering without their top RB in Christian McCaffrey and shut down rookie sensation in Jaycee Horn.
Nevertheless, the Panthers have certainly dominated each of the opponents that they went up against. With the defense rushing their way to top of the league in historic fashion, plus having never trailed any of their opponents, they are showing they can dominate when they should. That hopefully continues this Sunday.
Overall, it will be a tough game, and the Panthers need to continue their dominance against the best team they'll be facing so far. In order to win, here's three things the Panthers need to consider to win this Sunday:
1. Big Explosive Plays - Involve Robby Anderson
One of the main items I want to see happen is Sam Darnold getting the ball down deep. The Cowboys defense has allowed a league high of 27 explosive plays so far this season. With the Cowboy's weakness being defending the big plays, the Panthers need to capitalize.
Enter Robby Anderson.
So far this season, he hasn't shown much on the highlight reels. Despite one fascinating huge play against the Jets, he has largely been silent in his play. I believe this largely has to do with the offensive line, being one of the worst in the league at win percentage. Matt Rhule recently said that he wants to get Robby more involved, and I expect to see that happen.
Checking out the film against the Texans, Robby was open quite a bit. Sam Darnold unfortunately did not progress through his reads to have these kinds of openings in his sights, but if he's given time in the pocket and the green light to prioritize explosive plays, well I certainly expect to see Anderson being a big target. He can and has taken the cleats off of defensive backs and should be a big factor against the Cowboys middling pass defense.
While the Panthers offensive line has limited how many deep plays the Panthers can do, with the Cowboys defense not being as good as the Saints and Texans respectively, I expect to see our WRs more involved. Hell, especially with Christian McCaffrey being out they need to show that they aren't just reliant on him to generate good offense and let the other talented WRs feast.
Robby Anderson should especially see more targets. It is clear as day that he will. Sam Darnold needs to capitalize on the explosive opportunities that come up and use it to the Panthers advantage. With the Cowboys allowing each QB they've faced so far to 300+ passing yards, here's to Sam Darnold continuing that streak.
2. Panthers Defense - Stop the Pass
On the flip side, the Cowboys also have an arsenal of pass catchers and a great QB at the helm. They have generated their fair share of big plays through the air, and given the Panthers crippled secondary this will be their biggest test yet. On the bright side, the Cowboys do not have the most stout offensive line. Their center is a turnstile and largely incompetent at the position. Our pass rush should have a field day against them, with Phil Snow dialing up confusion and destruction that'll keep their oline turning heads.
However, if our secondary cannot keep up with the Cowboys pass catchers, all that effort by the front seven will be for naught.
Dak Prescott gets the ball out at an average of 2.7 seconds. He can and will get the ball out quick and I expect to see a lot of these slice and dice plays.
For those of you worrying about the Cowboys rushing threat, hell, that is negligible. Against the Chargers, they had their guys go for 180+ rushing yards, yet the game was still pretty close. Their defense schemed against the pass threat of Dallas and that worked a decent bit better than worrying about the rush despite their loss.
Just look at the Buccaneers as well for that: they stopped the Cowboys running game, but they barely squeaked by and the Cowboys had plenty of offensive power through Dak's arm. The only reason the Bucs really won was through a massive talent gap disparity and things going their way, plus Tom Brady.
Nevertheless, it is clear that the Cowboys rushing attack isn't the thing to most fear about their offense.
Of course, even then, I expect our front seven to shut down any run game they try and muster. Hell, I hope that is what Dallas focuses on trying to establish, but I doubt that is their plan going into this game. Against the Bucs, they hardly had any success on the ground, but were able to keep it real close thanks to their ability to pass.
As such, it is imperative that they shut down that facet of the game down the best they can. Dak is a lot better than the other QBs we have faced at blitz recognition and getting the ball out fast. I expect that to be their primary offensive attack to answer for this unpredictable pass rush.
The silver lining is, Dak still isn't perfect. Despite more obvious blitz and formations from the Eagles, Dak still suffered through multiple sacks that honestly were self inflicted from holding onto the ball too long. If the Panthers can keep Dak to that and cover well enough to give enough time for the pass rush to feast, Dak will have a hard time getting any offense going.
With that being said, I am optimistic the Panthers will indeed live up to the challenge. The fact of the matter is, Phil Snow is a genius. He is no slouch and I am sure he has a defensive gameplan ready to give Dak nightmares. Hell, Burns said it himself - the defense isn't scared, and they are ready. I am confident Snow's ready for whatever they try and throw at him and I expect the Panthers to take advantage.
3. Win the turnover battle
Another big key. The Panthers have to execute well and win the turnover battle. The Cowboys defense tops the NFL in turnover differential, with +5 and boasting a total of 8 turnovers, only ahead of the Saints by 1. Part of the reason the Cowboys have been prolific is thanks to a defense that keys in on creating turnovers.
Offensively, the Panthers need to keep their mistakes to a minimum. In the past few games, Sam Darnold has had a few scares with ball security that could've ended up much worse. While they have been decent enough so far, they need to continue playing mistake-free football against this team that loves capitalizing on them. The offensive line should also get better to avoid these scenarios from happening, but I have low hope on that front.
As long as Joe Brady keeps to what's working and helps scheme around the offensive line, as well as keeping things simple for Darnold, hopefully we won't be turning the ball over as much. Additionally, hopefully our defense can capitalize on some mistakes Dak could make and start racking up turnovers.
Either way, it is crucial the Panthers execute well on this front and don't let Dallas run away with these turnovers, which have been a big part of the reason Dallas is successful right now.
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Overall, this is a winnable game. The Panthers have the superior front seven, and most importantly coaching. They need to attack Dallas' weaknesses with great force, while ensuring they are not making the same. Simple stuff to say, but harder to prove on the field.
Ultimately, this is the Panthers first big challenge of the year. To prove they are contenders with a big chance at the playoffs rather than pretenders, a win here would help do that.