Doc Holiday

2 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Good. GTFO.

People saying this have no idea, Evero may be the most respected name on Defense around the league not already a head coach right now. His body of work speaks for itself. He kept our crappy defense together with Smoke and Mirrors last season.

we were the 4th Ranked defense last year despite having a terrible offense which continually put them in bad positions(why we ranked so poorly in PPG). Baring Evero getting a HC job. We need to to keep him here if possible.

Hard pass, He’ll go down forever as one of the most puzzling contracts I’ve ever seen given out.

35 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Oh, you mean the thread where you kept asking people for evidence of poor decision-making, then you kept receiving evidence repeatedly and you rage-quit the thread? That one?

Keep up the projecting.

Rage quit? No, I just realized you were not worth the time. 

As far as evidence goes, you mean the vast majority of your evidence which happened with Fitterer at the wheel not Dan? Your entire argument against Dan is based on “guilt by association” which is dumb as hell. There isn’t an argument too that, it’s a dumb emotion based argument that’s it. 
 

Big ole “Yawn” from me on that one. Lmao

this is teh internets jabroni, not every idiot’s idea needs to be fought to death. It just got to the point where i realized nothing I said was gonna change your mind. 

7 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Save the insults for someone else. At the very least, get better at them.

Young's best-case scenario is a middling game manager (game managers, if you didn't know, don't put up Mahomes numbers) and when the run game is working well, Young doesn't need to do much to win. I prefer winning to sexy passing numbers in losses, but maybe you feel differently.

I could do better, those that know, know.

You’re just not worth the effort. a crybaby reactionary thread to the Johnson trade and then hounding every poster personally that disagreed with you said everything. You’re just childish, nothing more needs to be said.

Ps. How many yards does Johnson have with the Ravens again? 6 yards through two games?

7 minutes ago, travisura said:

Can't say I feel bad for them. Why?

lol! This is gold!

2 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Don't need 300 yards passing if you can run for 200.

Look, after your Dan Morgan thread I’m pretty sure you’re 12. Hailing 126 yards as anything other than abysmal is nothing shy of being ridiculous.

That’s the last and only time Bryce has looked like the first over all pick, that’s the last and only time he’s looked like “Him”. 

This doesn’t mean I’m rooting against Bryce, just this celebration of Bryce after what I’d call a below average performance at best by any NFL starting QB is absolutely ridiculous. 
 

He needs to show more and do better if he wants a spot on this team next year. 

15 hours ago, HPPantherzfan said:

I think he knows 126 yards isn’t beating the Chiefs 

Isn’t beating anyone decent. Much less the chiefs. People thumping their chests about Bryce after an abysmal 126 yards passing need a reality check.

126 yards is terrible, awful, garbage quit pretending it’s not. I’m glad we won, but there is no reason to get on the Bryce train unless he starts showing stuff like he did against Green Bay last year.

That was almost a year ago….

Just now, JawnyBlaze said:

Jfc Bryce. Just give Burns a free sack. There was no need to take that sack ffs

My thoughts exactly, he gave up on that play way too early, could have just thrown it away.

49 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

It's not even so much an indictment on Huddlers. Some other places online people are doing victory laps like Bryce just Led us to beating the Cheifs 70-0 in the super bowl

I’m on a few places, you saying this is the only place I’m seeing any of this. Yeah people are going to over react, but whatever? 
 

Don’t give everything so much attention, rarely is any of it worth it.

49 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

I'm already seeing a ton of people celebrating like we just won the super bowl and Bryce Young just won MVP.

Bryce had a decent game, against a team that owns the longest losing streak in the NFL. Great! He threw 1 TD, 1 INT , 171 yards (yes I KNOW the int was  not his fault  the Bryce stands are screaming this at the top of their lungs repeatedly) . I know XL and D.Moore had big down field drops. But those are part of the game.

I personally liked the fact that he seemed to trust the oline more and threw down field shots. Yes. 

But can we not act like he threw 500 yards and 6 TDs??? Can you just say it's somewhat encouraging but need to see more?

Lets see how he does against better competition. Let's see if he can do well against the Cheifs, Eagles, and Falcons before we crown him the king of Carolina.

I think he's had close to 20 games played now. I think he had decent games in the wins last year with the game winning drives. A great Packers game. This game he played decent. So that's 3 decent, one great. 4 positive games vs 16 bad or atrocious ones.

I feel like I just want to be the voice of reason here but people get so hot and emotional over 1 game. I see content creators who are known Bryce fans screaming for joy and known Bryce detractors moaning in sour mood. 

Let's just say he had decent game and see if he can do it again.

We literally got shut out twice after that Packers game last year.

I don’t think anyone actually thinks this, people are just enjoying the rare W. I still want Bryce gone asap.

12 minutes ago, Sugar Greenwood said:

Agreed.  A lot of Carolina Panthers “fans” have less patience than Tepper.

You don’t say? I’m pretty sure you could fine Fire Canalas posts after our first loss. People are so reactionary it’s funny to watch.

like I wonder how some function in real life, it’s that bad lol

15 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

He is a rookie HC. Have some grace. You are too reactive. 

Rookie head coach that took over a dumpster fire. He’s definitely learning on the job.

Hard pass

Just now, CRA said:

Dan Morgan was our assistant GM for YEARS and Fitterer's right hand man.   That's not guilt by association.   

As stated before, we don’t know what his stance was inside the office on certain key moves. Fitter and Tepper definitely signed off on them. But we have no idea on Morgan.

for and against, it’s pure speculation because none of us were in that room. That’s my point.

3 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

You attempted to make up justification for two stupid decisions. Call your cope whatever you like. It's still coping.

Immediately discrediting every claim made against Morgan based on "no clue with regards to the inner office operations" isn't quite the maturity flex you think it is. None of us are privy to the inner workings of this team, and the flailing decisions speak to the high possibility there are no inner workings.

And honestly, man, I wish we could justify all his moves, but some of them straight-up can't be. That trade was just bad, and you're not going to hell if you accept it as such.

So, what do you do with Burns and Johnson.

Let’s hear it buckaroo?

2 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

- co-signed the McCaffrey trade: That doesn't count!
- turned down the Rams: That doesn't count!
- co-signed the Young trade: That doesn't count, either!
- Young over Stroud: That doesn't count!
- fleeced by the Giants: That doesn't count!
- traded valuable picks for OL to pick an injured RB who's yet to play: That doesn't count!
- gave up the team's best WR for nothing: He had no leverage!

See? Nothing.

Lmao, someone just wants to be angry. Poor baby!! 
 

Already explained the Burns and Johnson trades. The rest is irrelevant to Morgan and trying to label guilt by association. See my last post for why that’s as stupid as it is.

cry babies showing up today lol

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I got nothing?  His results speak for itself.  And he was co pilot in building this disaster 

Lmao, so guilt by association? Maybe he was the voice inside the building that was against some of these disastrous moves, and that’s why he was promoted to GM?
 

Nobody here knows, you’re just blaming him for things you have no clue about with regards to the inner office operations of the Panthers. End of the day, the stuff you’re angry with Morgan the most over happened under Fitterer, not Morgan. And that’s my point. 

 

My point here, which you haven’t disputed is there hasn’t been anything you can directly point at Morgan and say this is all his fault. I’m not saying Morgan is a good GM btw, I’m just saying that you can understand the moves he’s making and why. All his moves last off season made sense to me, even the ones I didn’t like such as letting Luvu walk(caused by dead cap issues, and priorities on offense).

just being angry and shouting online is just being childish lmao

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

so he gets a complete pass on being fitts right hand man?    LOLOLOL man if you think that then there is no need to keep debating Morgan.    Even given a free pass he has stunk up the joint, then couple the past decisions and its dumbfounding that he was hired to start with

So you got nothing then? And are just being angry to be angry? Ok!

say I’m wrong with that last statement, but I just gave you your chance to actually explain yourself instead of an general angry reaction and this is what you give. A bunch of nothing.

Go scream on Facebook where someone may want to read your drivel.

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

I couldnt possibly imagine thinking that I have to defend this trainwreck of a GM with everything already know about him.

Seriously, it’s his first year at GM, what has he done wrong? 

Johnson trade and the Burns trades needed to happen and we just didn’t have any leverage. We got $61m in dead cap that he inherited. 
 

So let’s hear it?

3 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

The Panthers' beat writer called the Johnson trade return "a warm bottle of RC Cola." If you're quick to discount every bit of news that disagrees with your view, maybe your view is the problem.

Morgan deals himself a bad hand and he deserves every bit of criticism for it. Fitterer was the worst GM ever, but Morgan is a very similar brand of awful.

Certainly when it comes to trades since 2021, Morgan's body of work makes him at best, only one of the worst negotiators in the history of North American professional sports. That's simply pointing out the numerous shortcomings he's put on display. If I point at a guy who shot someone and say "he murdered a guy," I'm not hating on him -- I'm pointing out what he did.

If Morgan wants to not be labeled an incompetent clown who makes 31 other franchises better, simply stop being an incompetent clown who makes 31 other franchises better. Or, wait until Tepper makes him the fall guy after Evero.

Lmao, you just want to be angry and shout man.

I’ve explained it in simplest terms possible. Lashing out at me because I disagree with your short sighted hot takes only furthers my point about them being short sighted hot takes. 
 

Just wants to be angry but doesn’t understand what’s actually going on.

4 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Dan Morgan is an awful GM (and so was Scott Fitterer).

You can either just be a hater or actually try to understand what’s going on and why. Choice is yours.
 

Hot take news sources rarely give any meaningful insight as to what happens and why. It’s nothing more than lazy reporting.

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

now do Brian Burns

Good for us to trade him, but bad for us to not take the 2 first rounders when we could. Market changed and so did our leverage.

leverage is the key part here.

Not Dans fault we passed on the two first round picks. That was Scott Fitterer, and probably a lot of teppers meddling as well.

point being, you want to trade when you have the leverage.

So I know Dans gotten a lot of crap for the Johnson trade, but I think it’s best to keep things like this into perspective.

With a good old song by Kenny Rogers:

Moral of the story is sometimes you get dealt a hand that puts you in a no win situation, and you have to play the hand as best you can. You can’t get caught up on what lead to this point. It’s all in how you play it going forward.

facts: Johnson needed to be traded if we were gonna get anything for him.

holding onto him served absolutely no long term benefit, he wasn’t gonna resign here. 
 

Everyone in the NFL knew this and we had no leverage as a result. In short, we had a poo hand and everyone knew it. 

Calling Dan a bad GM based on this trade is just short sighted and reactionary. 

6 hours ago, Manna said:

I'd have a sigh of relief as well going from BY9 to MVP at QB. 

Anyone in his shoes would feel the same. Can’t blame him one bit, we are a mess right now