Doc Holiday

4 hours ago, Billy Love said:

Not taking two 1st round picks from Rams for Burns confirms we are indeed, dumbasses.

So I’m split on the Burns trade, he defiantly ain’t worth what he’s asking but we literally do not have a single reliable pass rusher on this team other than him. Yeah 2 first for him sound nice. But I’m still not sure I’d want to trade him for that right now. 

58 minutes ago, CRA said:

That’s a bit of a red flag.  That’s not balls.  That’s delusion or insanity.  If true.  

I can’t imagine who put that idea into his head. Being that delusional is a huge red flag and will only get worse with money. I can still see a team drafting him, and then telling him he has to abide by the contract with the NFLPA. You can’t be a player and part owner anyway. This is just mind numbingly stupid

14 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

Am I crazy thinking he’d still do a better job than Tepper?

Yes

2 hours ago, pantherj said:

The GM has to have the authority to build the roster as he sees fit. Then if he fails to obtain the right players to win, you can fire him with good cause.

Our undoing really is a tale of QBs.

We didn't trade up for Justin Herbert and we easily could have done so, and that cost us a decade of success.

We brought in Teddy Bridgewater which was a mistake (stated QB limbo/purgatory).

We brought in Sam Darnold which was a worse mistake than Teddy (continued QB limbo but with lower quality QB and loss of draft picks).

We brought in Baker Mayfield for 5 million, but the least costly QB mistake in the Fitt era, but pointless nonetheless.

We drafted Matt Corral which was a moderately costly mistake in terms of draft capital.

You can't pass on drafting Herbert, who was easily obtainable, and then bring in 4 QBs who are backup quality and then expect anything but misery. No matter who was responsible for the QB decisions, the only outcome was that we were going to get our asses handed to us from 2018 to 2023. 

You have to hit on a QB. Marty went Jake, Matt, Pickles, Cam. 2 hits out of 4. Not too bad, and Marty's 1st round picks were fire, like ring of honor Panthers players, and we got Olsen for a steal. Fitt has not hit on a QB excluding Young who is still an unknown at this point. Ultimately Young will decide Fitt's fate, and ours short team as well.

 

Just as a note, Marty Hurney wanted to trade up for Herbert. And that was vetoed by coaches and ownership at the time.

7 hours ago, scpanther22 said:

when did the narrative switch to Tepper forced the Young pick....seemned liked all summer the entire org wanted him

There was information out there early that Tepper wanted Young, while Frank wanted Stroud.

when your boss tells you to do something you do it. That’s how the whole organization got behind young.

30 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

After Miami drops 70 on us and costs Tepper his shot at the office fantasy football pool. 

This is what I’m hoping for! 0-6 and getting obliterated by 70! Someone getting fired! ROFL!

More excuses for this poo QB. Bro Bryce should have never been the Pick at 1. Biggest mistake in franchise history. Young isn’t a NFL QB. Why you ask? Because people were making excuses before he was drafted and now they are afterwards when the warning signs were there the whole time. 
 

no excuses, he’s not a NFL QB

3 hours ago, rayzor said:

About this team and I don't care.

I was wrong and _______________ was right (go ahead and quote this and put your name in the blank).

I won't ever apologize for taking advantage of a rare moment to be optimistic about this team. I'm glad I had that moment. At least I had that because the past 8 years has been pretty miserable. You take what you can get, or at least I do.

But I just don't care anymore. I've gone back to being apathetic like I was with Rhule.

Like I said, I won't apologize for taking advantage of a rare moment to feel optimistic...but I also won't apologize for finding something else to do with my family on Sundays than watch the poo show this team is.

If they can pull it together I might get interested again, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Oh, and I don't care if I get poo from anyone either for being stupid or a bad fan. I probably deserve it, but again, I don't care.

Hey, I always try to be positive but a lot of what we did with this past year I haven’t liked. Wasn’t a fan of trading away McCaffery, at the time I understood it, but I hated the trade then and still do, I also hated trading away DJ Moore, again understood why and hated it and the time but what really got me was us going for Smalls over Stroud.

now stroud is looking good and Bryce has become what I feared he would be. The worst part of this no excuses and not having to ignore anything Stroud was the hands down best QB in the draft. 
 

with Young, yeah he’s small but…

yeah, his arm strength isn’t elite but….

you’re reasoning and making excuses before you even drafted the guy. What did you expect!
 

this past year has been nothing more than an abject disaster!

So the only thing that keeps me from blaming more of this on the coaching staff is, the initial pre-draft buzz was Reich wanted Stroud but Tepper wanted Young, and it had been theorized for a while that Tepper had fell in love with Young, so I really at this point don’t know who’s more to blame for this, coaches or the owner. Regardless the outcome has been completely unacceptable!

4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I mean the first 3 games were a pretty damn good indication 

That he’s a bust? I think so! I ain’t gonna lie I wasn’t high on him before the draft, I’ve tried to be positive, but bro literally threw the worst pass I’ve ever seen. Not a good sign at all!

Jake Delhomme on his worst day never threw a INT that bad. I have never seen a Panther QB throw a pass that bad, at no point at all should that pass have ever been thrown. 
 

hope the Bryce young fan boys are happy, imma gonna find something else to do on sundays for the foreseeable future. 
 

good thing we got that #1 overall first round pick to look forward to!

(I didn’t expect us to win today at all, this is purely a reaction to the ugliest pass I’ve ever seen one of our QB’s throw in all my years of watching this team!)

These topics are so stupid 

it’s not gonna happen, it’s fear mongering and stupidity nothing more or less

2 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Writing off rookies 4 weeks into the season....sheesh. You guys are really losing your marbles around this place

My only thing is, with Cam, after his first game there was absolutely no doubt, here we sit 4 games in still looking for signs he’s not a busy. Let that sink in.

6 hours ago, Mills said:

At least he drafted Jaycee horn…Nevermind

Over Parsons! Another huge mistake!!  I hate to keep saying I told you so but if you dig hard enough on my predraft posts you’d see that I was upset about us going for Horn over Parsons, I got told I was too old school in how I viewed how teams should be built. But here I stand vindicated by it all!

6 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

We are basically bargaining all the good players he draft when he came back just to fix the current crappy mess.

A mess that wasn’t created by him. They’re shootings themselves in the foot and then doing it again.  If Tepper had listened to Hurney and traded for Herbert who I was also high on predraft we aren’t in this situation. They were ignoring him and that’s party of why we are here. Tepper not listening to Hurney and not trading up for Herbert has literally destroyed this franchise at this point.

2 minutes ago, Mage said:

Marty Hurney Part 3 Incoming 

If you mean bring him back, yes, I’d take him in a heart beat over the crap we’ve had around here lately. People give him a lot of crap but the dude was always money in the first round and was instrumental in getting us to two different super bowls. Hurney wasn’t ever half as bad as people made him out to be here and now they’re finally seeing that. 
 

yes I miss this guy

2 minutes ago, App Panther said:

To an extent it’s his fault, but I think there are a few more to blame than just him, ownership being one for that matter. 
 

we traded the farm away for the wrong QB(at this point anyway). The absolute mismanagement of the Panthers has sucked all my fun out of watching football.

9 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

bryce isnt a bust and spending time going through a hypothetical that may not come true is waste of time. He has played 3 NFL games. I dont know why you want to endure the suffering of something that isnt true. This is topic for 2 years from now.... if it does become true.

People aren’t happy and want to burn someone at the stake over a game. It is what it is…

14 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

I'm just not ready to give up on the kid. The play calling is atrocious 

Two issues causing this, and neither is the coaches fault actually. The run game being terrible and the oline issues are causing cascading effects across the team!

58 minutes ago, DFive said:

#FireFrank as OC. Not one single pass over 20 yards. We may as well trout Cam Newton out there if we aren’t gonna push the ball down the field. 

Can’t push the ball down field with these protection issues. This is hilariously short sighted hot Take…

1 minute ago, BY9Franchise said:

F*ck Bryce Young this team ain't winning a game

Lol at your user name and saying that! ROFL!

1 minute ago, Mol3m4n said:

Different year, different qb, same Cam haters. 

What? Like I’ve been one of the biggest Cam supporters on here for years! So not sure what you’re trying to say here?

1 minute ago, MGH1989 said:

This fuging fanbase. Sick of these opposing fans taking over our house. Has happened for 30 years.

Not when we’re good. But yeah it happens when we’re garbage, just look at lions fans taking over Green Bay last week. Happens to all teams

Just now, 45catfan said:

Ian Thomas didn't even try to chip the edge defender.

Yeah, that sack wasn’t Bryce’s fault, dude had a complete free lane to him. Some of this other sacks today, yes, but not that one.