Doc Holiday

This 100% sounds like a rip current. 

PLT: if it’s rough out there don’t go in water above your waste, you can get pulled out very quickly by a rip current and a lot of people don’t know what to look for and how to swim out of them. Which is diagonally to the beach, never against, you’ll just wear yourself out. 

I live in a coastal area of NC and was at the beach this past weekend. I took one look at the water and instantly decided I wasn’t going in. There were people that went out swimming past the sand bar, that literally didn’t have a clue the danger they were in, life guards and police were walking over to areas with no life guards present warning people not to swim. Even with that, one idiot by where I was, who clearly couldn’t swim that well kept going in right in front of me. Life guard came by twice to tell them to quit going in so far. 

2 minutes ago, App Panther said:

We got the cash right? 

I think so, issue is we also have to pay Brian Burns this year, don’t know if we have enough cap space to do both. 
 

next year once all this dead cap is gone we should be good!

11 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

It's the off-season and he is a former player. It's just news and carrying on conversation. If you don't like it, you didn't have to even click on it did you?

I’m just tired of people’s obsession with this crazy ass. We really don’t need more about him, even in the off-season.

Guys, Hardy hasn’t played for us in nearly 10 years, out side of being a nut, he’s not even a noteworthy former Panther. 
 

enough is enough, I don’t care and this shouldn’t be in the Panthers topic area. 

2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

No Reason to hate on DJ

45 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

There's no clandestine plan here - someone simply got their hands on (incomplete) S2 test scores and released them for clout. 

There was a lot more than just the S2 scores, that was the just last thing and the biggest, it built to that over about two weeks.

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

He must have really messed up when he interviewed with teams.  Washington and Tampa passing on him was surprising.

That was my biggest take away too, but I don’t think him or Hendon Hooker are gonna make it out of round 2

I said it before and I’ll say it again, I think all the Levis and Stroud stuff was from the Colts, they put a lot of BS out there to try and get CJ to Drop past the Texans. Didn’t work and funny to see a team actively try to tank a players stock before the draft.

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

the problem is that this last week before the draft, especially in the last couple days leading up to it, this is when the truths start to slip out as well. 

easiest thing to do is just assume that everyone is lying, but right now it's about a 50/50 chance that what you are hearing is true. 

I hear ya, but I’m also convinced the stuff surrounding Levis and Stroud is teams lying, talking Levis up and Stroud down.

Just bumping this because I just want to remind everyone where we really are sitting in the predraft discussion. Told y’all two weeks ago that pretty much everything you’re hearing or would hear is a lie. I still stand by that, I will say though it does sound like we are drafting Young, but that’s about the only thing I’d put any weight to at this point.

the CJ Stroud stuff is 100% a team lying it’s butt off putting a lot of false info out there about him to get him to fall in the draft. My money would the Colts trying to put enough doubt out there for him to fall past the Texans.

Meh, this really isn’t news, and while this sounds good it’s a new tests and hardly indicative of future success. 
 

it looks like it’s gonna be Young and I’m trying to warm myself up to a “fun size” QB, like I said before if Young was 3 inches taller and 20lbs heavier he would be my no doubt #1. But his size has me seriously concerned about his longevity in the league.

Just figured I’d share this bit if info, long time off-season guru huddle vet here. This happens every year before the draft, just assume everyone is lying, because they probably are.

recent example of this is the “Stroud isn’t coachable” narrative that just came out. Willing to bet my pay check this is some team trying to get him to fall if Carolina doesn’t pick him.

The lie zone usually starts at the combine, and progressively increases till the draft. It’s peaking right now with it being right at 2 weeks out. 

believe nothing you hear, and nothing happens till it happens.

On 3/31/2023 at 4:40 AM, rayzor said:

Stroud is the safest bet of this class because of his style of play and his approach to the game.

Like I've said many times, I'd be thrilled as can be to have either him or Young and maybe even AR, because I think all 3 could be special if put in the correct situation (and I think ours is the best one any of them could hope for). 

But AR and Young are more of a gamble than Stroud. 

I wish we just had one more season of tape on AR. I ain’t gonna lie dudes built like a beast. But you don’t draft projects 1 overall.

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I wouldn't go that far.

He does occasionally say things that make sense, or more frequently talks to other people who make sense, but especially these days more often than not he's full of sh-t.

Of late, he's also become prone to some major gaffes where he just gets things flat out wrong.

He had a segment on the NFL draft and QB prospects a couple weeks ago that I thought was 100% on point. 
 

he then usually follows up segments like that with some stupid hot take which I get that killing credibility with some.

24 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

Colin Cowturd is one person I refuse to watch or listen to.

So, he’s full of crap at times, but at others he’s one of the more insightful people on the radio as far as big picture stuff go.

I’d do it if we got Rodgers for nothing, and still drafted Stroud/Young with the first. Word is the jets are only offering a 2nd and a conditional 3rd net year at the moment.

Guardian down! Rip

I've said the entire time that yes, Young is the better player between him and Stroud, but Youngs size makes me nervous. There is nothing that makes me nervous about Stroud. And thats why Stroud is the better pick to me. 

3 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

That's my guess as well.  

If I was a FA, NYC would be hard to turn down.  I'd be scoping out West Village condos pronto. 

It’s hard unless you’re about the money and you look at their tax rate

If Josh McCown wasn’t our QB coach I’d be a lot more concerned about this. Literally who could we have better than McCown for this job?

38 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Nobody is right all the time, and he hasn’t been proven wrong yet, Corral hasn’t had a chance to prove whether he’s better than the other trash that was taken last year. Could argue he is the best of that class just by not playing and proving that he can’t lol

Last years QB’s were garbage, it was said as much at the time. 

2 hours ago, La Pantera said:

Meth is bad. Mkay?

Is the European calendar format. D/m/y instead of m/d/y. It actually makes more since 

12 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Who was it that said, "Watch the combine, then go back and look at the tape." ?

I dont know, but I do like to listen to Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd a lot so I could have very well picked up this train of thought from either of them. Colin is full of crap with what he says sometimes, but at others he may be one of the more insightful people in sports talk radio. two of my must listen to radio programs, it will literally make you a better educated sports fan. 

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yes.  The man is hard to watch without being impressed.  However, at the QB spot, you really need precision, accuracy, processing, and leadership--things we don't see a the combine as much as we see 3 cone drills and vertical leaps.  Running a 40 may be impressive--and he is an impressive athlete--but as you say, he is a project.  Workout warriors have always been fool's gold at the combine-so you can't get all smitten with a player by being overwhelmed by things that are not the essential tools required for success at the position.

For example, I may be impressed that an OT can do 37 reps on the bench, but if he has not feet, upper body strength is not important. 

Did this recent Lamar Jackson snubbing hurt AR-15's stock? They are fairly similar.

 

What I've been saying about the combine in recent years is that the combine is there for you to either do a direct comparison or find a red flags. with red flags being the main thing you're looking for.  

You should have players on your board based on their tape, and only drop based on things you find out as you go through the process.