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2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

He's best on the team, but is he "best in the league" money, though?

I wish his stats said he was. 

Don't get me wrong, I love that he's on our team, but he's not been the "takeover a game" kind of player he needs to be to trying to reset the market. I don't want to see us overpay for potential. Again.

I agree with this but at the same time who else is earning that money right now on our roster? DB? Horn? What are we saving the money for?

I expect it to be a lot, probably Top 3-5 Edge money. But we're not really paying anyone, so whatever. As long as he plays to par what he's been we can move him still, but at worse we have an out in like 3 years by the time it comes to evaluate what we're gonna pay Bryce.

That said the team has surprised me with contracts like Moore's. I'm not holding my breath but unless we're paying him what the Bosas are expecting to get I'm personally gonna feel pretty neutral to the move.

3 hours ago, UnluckyforSome said:

The best part would be the bewildered complaints and nonsensical crying about why we don't have any pass rush.

Star Lotulelei leaves via free agency

"Why our run defense bad??"

(that said he rly went downhill after that first contract so glad it wasnt our problem) 

26 minutes ago, CRA said:

 

Describe Brian Burns in one word vs the run?   

Okay.

Three words: Could be better.

Question: What does constantly bringing up his weakness against the run really add? What breaking football analysis is this?

26 minutes ago, CRA said:

It would be like having a great receiving TE that was a liability in pass protection or aiding in the run game.  

That's

that's literally the reason the Bears traded Greg bro

Describe Greg Olsen in one word in pass pro.

1 hour ago, KSpan said:

What's quaint is this assertion of disrespect/fans don't appreciate/'insert similar comment here' present in a given fanbase, as if there aren't differing opinions across every team in the sports world. I live here in KC, arguably the top of the NFL for several years now, and there are people complaining about the fanbase. Hell, even certain players were whining about it in recent years. The whole 'fanbase doesn't appreciate...' take is incredibly stale and unoriginal.

Just because it's stale doesn't mean it doesn't have legs. It's a case by case thing.

Most posters on the Huddle do Undervalue Burns. Saying he's just a pass rusher, devalue how he gets some of his sacks, put his ability to handle the run under a microscope, and treat him like he's just Bruce Irvin when it comes to his ability to rush the passer and affect the play (i.e. "oh he doesn't have any big 3rd down sacks"). Frankly it's quite tiring. All because we didn't trade him for two first round picks.

Yes it's in every fan base, and will be until the end of time. That doesn't mean every case of claim of "doesn't appreciate" hold the same weight. 

Crazy thing is we can still get a first for him down the road. He's 25. He has high character marks. If he doesn't fit our timeline there will absolutely be a market for him.

2 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

Burns had 1/3 (12.5)  of our total sacks (35) last year, with no true passing rusher threat any where else on the D-line. Marques Haynes had 4 sacks. No one else on the team even managed 3.  Our DT's combined for a grand total of TWO.  Our 2nd leading sacker was Frankie Luvu (7), an OLB. Despite the lack of help on the line it  seemed like half of our message board couldn't wait to get rid him heading into the 2023 season for draft picks(s) which in all likelihood wouldn't come close to replacing his production in the rookie season. I'd say that Brian Burns is definitely undervalued by "some" of the Panther fans.

Frankie lines up at edge and Mike, primarily more the latter as the season went on. Quite a few of his sacks came from blitzing thru the middle.

You're spot on, I just want to emphasize how bad our edge rush is not named Brian Burns.

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

He's not one dimensional. He is just light for the DE spot. And at times got.man handled by guys who have 50 to 75 lbs over him. 

Let's just ignore his talent because he's not an all around beast of a 290lb DE. 

fug this gets old. 

Seriously. It's like not paying Nnamdi because he can line up on one side or Richard because he can only play zone. Except this is a pass rusher -- way more valuable.

Yeah he's iffy against the run (not as much of a liability as the huddle makes him out to be, he knows his run fits) and he struggles sometimes when doubled, both points I know will be brought up during negotiations. He still wins most of his 1 on 1s fairly quickly and still is in his athletic prime.

But nah let's use one of those two first to maybe get a Brian Burns.

7 minutes ago, KSpan said:

The flip side is more that he's one-dimensional and going to cost a ton. 

I'm curious on what you mean by one dimensional. Could you elaborate?

I don't expect any one target to break 1k this season, but I'm hoping TMJ is the leader in receiving but expecting it to be Chark

Woah. Wild take there. Thelien isn't gonna put up 1k yards? This guy's crazy!

We could have prime Julio, and his numbers would still drop. He's 33. He's much more for the locker room and to become a security blanket for our rookie QB than a game breaker.

50 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

When another team game plans against the concepts they pick up on tape and try to counteract? 

And that's why it's a big deal he can maybe learn the whole playbook? Understanding what his offense can do is how u beat defenses.

Are u bitching to bitch?

On 6/23/2023 at 3:28 PM, Jackie Lee said:

Also no pads and he's throwing to Thielen/Chark etc against STO and Keith Taylor. I'm not gonna buy into the fluff too much until Jets practice where he's going against Sauce and the rest of that D

What does who he's playing against go with how he understands concepts?

58 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Damn....Floyd was the one I hoped we'd sign.

Yannick makes sense from a history with Reich and Wash, but doesn't seem like the type of EDGE we're looking to sign. Replicates what Burns does quite a bit. 

What does that last part mean?

Both Burns and Reddick are "speed" rushers

Lbr the only reason people vehemently dislike him is becauae of the Rhule's wife story.

He's been just as solid, if not better than names like Mike Godsoon and Cameron Artis Payne. He's not a plodder and he seems to understands run gaps well. Probably not a 2nd contract guy but you can do a LOT worse from a backup than Chuba.

California kid with familial connections to head coach feels at how on California team than  Southern team that never built around him.

I, for one, am offended and hurt. 

Bro has good taste in sticoms and sitcom episodes.

Obviously he'll be a 10x pro bowler based on this alone. 

1 hour ago, chknwing said:

this was a pretty good video on some of the things a short QB needs to know

 

tbh, his first point is my biggest concern w/ Young. He's so good off platform because he HAS to be off platform. Which ofc puts him at risk more, but it also limits what he can and can't do at times.

I'm excited for the pick. I can already feel the energy he's brought to this team. I think he's smart and he has face of the franchise energy and ability. However one thing I'm going to be worried abt until proven otherwise is something he can't control: How other teams play him knowing he's a short QB. 

4 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

Who's angry? I'm just joking around. Now, if you're saying that makes you angry, well...

its hard to descipher the poo posts from the poo opinions on the huddle. they blur together.

i just laugh at the rly bad ones

2 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

A safety that stuffs the run but isn't good in coverage? Why does that sound so familiar? Oh yeah, these guys   

 preferred them.

when you want to find a reason to be angry

11 hours ago, KillerKat said:

Id much rather take a risk that benefits the offense, than doing it for defense like we have been just about every year of our existence. It never got us any championships or back to back winning seasons. Its time to favor offense now.

Okay cool concept.

What "risk" was there at 80 on the offensive side at the ball?

13 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Brah like…plenty of times this forum makes a better choice. I did it when I wanted Crosby over Grier (lmao) and I’m an idiot…I remember people doing it  for Little…

Even the ‘professionals’ make some idiot moves.

Congrats, you can identify talent. I remember when I wanted Diggs more than any WR in 2015 draft. I thought I was the smartest boy in school.

The next step is realizing that everyone in the FO can identify talent, probably realized just as well as we do what a talent can do, and realize that they only have a limited number of assets and many needs.

We have a need at edge. There aren't many other great edge players left in the draft. Take a talent, hope you can develop him.

The reason I don't take thr Darnell Washington ppl seriously is because they would've taken him 40 picks ago no question when a simple search reveals he had red flags abt  his knees.

And then he still got drafted behind a guy literally missing an ACL because he's a raw prospect as a receiver.

I seriously wonder what many of you guys expect from a majority of 3rd round picks.

Like do you guys lose sleep if a 3rd rd pick busts?

Looks like a guy who we'll either love in two years or he'll  be off the roster in 2 years.

Like his measurables. Hopefully he'll take to coaching well.