Rags

I peep in to see what's up and ofc the Huddle would have a 10 page thread about Nicole Tepper.

Even the r/Panthers threads aren't this circular anymore.

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He legit has a personal problem with Adam Thielen and he's letting it jeopardize his content. It's honestly the only explanation at this point.

Thielen is carrying our entire passing game. There's no two ways about it.

his problem with Thelin is he's slow.

it's not abt Adam being onb the field, it's abt Adam being our primary target.

Bro was getting his lunch money taken today. It was ugly. His worst game by far and we have to seriously start floating the idea of moving him inside when Brady's healthy. 

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We finally won a game and y'all dumbasses just wanna talk poo about me? 

Ahahahahahahaha!!!!!

I love it!!!!

No this has been happening BEFORE we won don't flex lol.

Your headassey has been being called out.

and WOAH is that insulting laungage targed at someone. Better warn yourself pal.

7 minutes ago, Varking said:

He played better. I agree. First game he did it all year. I’m happy for the win but we scored just 15 points with a new coordinator. I don’t know how to feel about that. 

I'll take: Things that happen when your first round OL is the worst player on the line for 100, Alex. 

This is gonna be one spicy Sunday evening on the huddle I tell ya.

12 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Good to hear, this is absolutely the correct decision. 

is it? I do see the value of Burns but I really think we shoul sell on our defense right now and front load our offense. Is there really a foreseeable future where we can both put Burns in the best situation to thrive while paying him top dollar AND build around our young QB? 

I really think Brown is just as capable of a cornerstone to start building around on defense as Brian is. 

1 hour ago, bandu said:

yeah there is no way your wrong &  matter of fact your absolutely 100 % correct matter of fact

.however, with that said every team also at the same time doesn't make one bad decision right after the other that they then later regret  90% of the time.there is a pattern here with the Carolina Panthers & the obvious question at this point in time is when & how will this stop before we just kerp on digging so to speak ourselves a hole deeper & deeper ...just saying 

oh yeah no, Fitts needs to go but I don't think this is the smoking gun. The Moore trade and the Burns situation is enough alone. 

If if were a fifth we'd all be drunk. We're not the only team to let talent walk and regret it. 

I think he'd be better than what we have, and I think he'd be good for Bryce. Just that contract and what the Raiders would want. 

I'd really be hard pressed to give them anything higher than a 3rd given our situation.

Just now, CRA said:

Tua has a fantastic young and inventive HC.  Tua has the fastest WR/RB skill talent in the NFL and that features arguably the best WR on the NFL and the biggest coverage influencer at the position.  It’s just not Tua working hard on improving.  It takes a village.  And we are largely a deserted village. 

Counterpoint: Sean McVay, a guy who was all of that eventually moved on from Jared Goff, and look at him now.

That last point is true. Like deep down in all of our guts, no matter what side you're on you know we'll find a way to Panthers this situation.

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This. I really don't understand the mocking posts when this was literally the messaging from the organization.

The mock the organization that sold you that crock, sure. But many of us have accepted what this team is in reality: A team lacking talent and an identity, with a young QB we have to build around. 

16 minutes ago, frankw said:

I think you misread the post from the jump. It wasn't an attack on you. I was simply stating that right now Young has probably at best an average or below average NFL arm. He's only 22 and that could change. But the situation is the situation currently. It's difficult to reconcile with the fact that's what we traded up to at number one overall. I don't like it either but it's a reality I'm going to accept for the time being.

MY mistake then, I read the first line and rolled my eyes.

But yeah as noted Stroud truther, I still really wish he was the pick, I just don't think it's worth sitting on "What ifs". I think we have a perfectly fine QB prospect. Why can't this be a 2020 Class where all the QBs are godo and have different playstyles? 

Just now, CRA said:

Teddy was a checkdown and conservative QB.  And I'm not comparing a vet to a rookie.  But people keep saying that Bryce is attacking downfield more than Teddy and that is just factually wrong.   It is non-existent under Bryce for whatever reason.  

 

that's just a couple.  Only shows week 5-17.  But overall, yeah, Teddy went downfield much more and than Bryce Young has and it's not much of a debate.  And Teddy hated doing that.  It doesn't exist under Bryce.  It sporadically was part of Teddy's game here. 

So how deep are we going to say is "okay" Here? Because using Bryce's Week 6 chart We did get a 32 yarder, and in week 1 we did get a 40+ (which I don't remember at all)  which is only 2 less 40s than 

Which is concerning, but also, given our offensive struggles and the fact again Teddy had the better WR core (D.j., Curt and Robby was a powerful trio) I am going to argue that Bryce would take mroe shots with that cast than this one that notably isn't getting a ton of separation. 

But more importantly it's only 3 less 30 yard attempts than what Dalton put out in Week 3. I am willing to lean that it is more of a cast thing than it JUST being Bryce's ability to throw deep. 

Also after typing this up and looking at (at least Bryce's week 6 chart) and what you've put here for Teddy, teddy didn't throw +15 often, Bryce is and over the middle too. That's the differences. 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I think that was fitt knowing he stepped in it before the preseason and knew young wasnt ready yet

 

I never bought the fluff but then again I didnt think bryce would be this bad

And this is the point of contention, this isn't just on Bryce. This team is bad. 

I don't think there's many who don't wish Stroud was the pick, but we have Bryce and many of us think there's things to work with and also this would still be a terrible situation for Stroud or Richardson. 

And also I think it's pretty unanimous Fitt poo the bed and should be shown the door. 

Just now, frankw said:

Enjoy your safe space bud.

My brother in christ you are literally saying "if you don't agree with me, you lack logic" that's not something you can converse with lol

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Do I need to pull quotes from just about everyone on this staff about how far advanced he is and how we can win the division etc

 

and for the record I have said all along 7 wins is about right.  fug even I was wrong, what did you predict?

Listen man if u wanna buy into team fluff cool, great. Sometimes it works on me too.

I reeled it back when our GM publicly said "Yeah we're gonna suck" before week 1.

1 minute ago, frankw said:

At this point one would have to remove all logic

Aaaaaaaaaaand we're back to hyperbolic have a good one.

3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/player/teddy-bridgewater/BRI129168/2020
 

To be fair he had Moore, Anderson (while his head was still semi screwed on) and Samuel. That’s a lot of speed. I suggest going back and watching some of these deep balls too. I mean the one to Moore in NO he was open by 20 yards 

Huh. fuging crazy. I think that 4th and whatever against the Bucs(?) where he threw it short to Samuel colored my experience more than I thought. 

Just now, CRA said:

Addressed this in another thread, but Teddy's next gen pass charts are still available for his time in Carolina. 

Reality is, Teddy Bridgwater attacked the field deep more than Bryce Young is doing.   And it's really not close.   And that's not claiming Teddy did it much.  But it doesn't exist under Young to date for whatever reason.   Teddy factually had shots and completions downfield. 

I would love to see the passing charts and for which games, because there were absolutely games D.J. had the greenlight on one on ones down field and Teddy just. Wouldn't. 

But even then, great, we're still comparing a 7 (?) year vet with a much more competent offensive supporting cast (two 1,000 yard WRs, Mike Davis) and a rookie learning in the NFL. And even then he's still been going over the middle more and more recently. 

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

He wasnt billed as a rookie from april until Labor day.

 

If the team misjudged this dude that much then I think we are in a world of fuging hurt for 3 seasons

That's your problem if you didn't see him as a rookie.

He's a rookie.

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

There is hope and there is being realistic.

 

Hope is saying in the preseason we can win this division

Reality is looking at this roster and other factors and seeing a 7 win at best team

 

It serves no purpose to continue to simply sugarcoat poo for the sake of being some loyal fan or whatever.  At 0-6 you need to open your damn eyes

Yeah man you're right your reality is the only reality 

1 minute ago, frankw said:

I don't like the Teddy comparisons but there are some parallels in terms of all the short attempts at or within 10 yards of the LOS. And others have noted Bryce Young has looked different throwing deep since the conclusion of Alabama's 2021 season.

I'll still argue you can work more with "kinda inaccurate deep" than "Can't go deep at all" which is why I'll give any legs to the Teddy comparisons. 

And yeah the answer is obvious - he lost JMo. Nothing wrong with having an elite deep threat. 

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope so but I need to see it. I'm out of hope.

And that's cool man that's great, but why do you constantly berate people who aren't out of Hope? 

That's literally the point of most of these arguments -- we're hopeful our QB can improve with our bad team. Seen it with Tua, seen it with Geno, seen it with Jared. Why can't it happen to Bryce? None of the height issues have been a problem and "kinda innacurate deep" is much more manageable. Matt Ryan made it to a superbowl.