Captroop

Just goes to show how truly rare someone like Cam was. Someone who could play the way he did for as long as he did. I don't know that we'll ever see his like again.

...and we got no trophies to show for his time here.

1 hour ago, jtm said:

Jeudy responded the exact same way Smitty would have responded back in the day.  The fact he can't recognize this is so hypocritical.

Patently untrue

6 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

Should’ve kept Wilkes, adjusted the style of play to fit his personnel, the players respected him… but he didn’t win pretty enough or didn’t “interview” well enough because God knows that’s at the top of Teppers list.

Wilkes is definitely the best coach we've had under Tepper's watch. But it was the right move to move on from Wilkes. He's not a regime builder. Wilkes did not have the roots in the league to pull in talented coordinators, assistants and position coaches. For the entirety of his tenure as HC, he would have been able to attract McAdoo level talent at best. We wouldn't have Evero. We wouldn't have Brown. And considering both of them are quality HC candidates for us, we owe Reich for bringing them into our organization.

But if Wilkes was head coach material, he'd be a head coach now.

No one wants to read a fluff piece when the team is winless. I don't know if the account was useless, but I like sending the message to the Panthers organization that they can't spoon feed us re-heated bullshit. 

3 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

You know poo has gone to hell when your fuging punter is getting personal foul penalties.

The refs should be rightly ashamed for actually flagging that flop. He literally dropped to his knee, like "Dude, you okay?" Weak.

2 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

For as injury depleted as our team is, I love how they are playing today. 

I think it's why we're doing well. Chuba, Franklin, Tremble, Mays. It's addition by subtraction 

2 minutes ago, Smitty will punch you said:

All you idiots saying Bryce ain’t it. Wash your face. 
 

 

he ain’t the problem. 

Please continue to prove me wrong. I'll eat an entire damn crow raw if this is for real. Beak feet and all

What the fug is going on?

40 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

Chinn and a 2nd for D. Smith

As much as I hate to give up more draft capital... I really wouldn't hate that deal. Make it our 2026 2nd and I like it.

3 minutes ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

prediction: our offense shows improvement this week because zavala and sanders are out but our offense gives up 5+ TD to dolphins

FTFY

I want to believe we can win this one. Because it's exactly the kind of stupid thing we would do; manage to beat a genuine world-beater team, and get my hopes up a little just to it makes it more painful when we go back to sucking.

If we can establish the run, and they can't just send the house after Bryce every play, that might be just the random element that turns this into a trap game.

I want to believe it, but really it reminds me of a time back in '04 when I asked my boss if the Panthers had a chance against the Eagles, and he said, "One. The Eagles don't show up."

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

What movie stuck with you for a while that you were legit afraid to watch again?

I know it's not the game, but honestly, the only stuff I can never watch again is the anxiety inducing stuff that provokes real life stress in me while I watch it. Stuff like Marriage Story or Whiplash.

Scary, violent, upsetting stuff doesn't bother me to the point that I can't watch it again, unless it's just utterly profane and pointless. Stuff like Like Saw II. I love to be shocked in a movie, and will totally watch again. I'd even watch Hostel again... and I have.

But here's one that I know has wrecked several people I watch movies with:

Misery

I'd like to see us trade for some talent to surround Bryce with.

Positive Spin: If he's our QB, I'd like to bolster his confidence by giving him a reliable target.

Pragmatic Spin: I want to know how much his receivers not getting open/not getting separation has to do with how poorly he's performing. Again, I want to get to "bust" as fast as possible so we can move on, and consequently, I want to get out of this season with as few question marks as possible. If he's not him, we need to know so we can move on rather than sinking more into propping him up.

Depends what you mean by "scariest."

Tension/Suspense: Jaws

Atmosphere: The Witch

Jaw-dropping gore: Bone Tomahawk

General spoopy fun: Halloween 3/Creepshow

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

My answer to this is pretty simple...

I couldn't.

Hell, I doubt I could be a better GM than Marty Hurney and most Huddlers probably know how I feel about him.

Even the personnel people who might be bad if their job still have tons more resources, training and experience than I'll ever have.

I get the game (basically all hindsight, mind you) but that's my answer.

All this...

...but also Micah Parsons.

41 minutes ago, RJK said:

What’s he supposed to say? Bryce stinks and we’re gonna hang 80 on them? 

38 minutes ago, frankw said:

What else is he supposed to say? Did someone think he was going to mock us for saying no thanks to CJ Stroud? He's a good coach and he's right Bryce has plenty of talent. But smoke is smoke. Hopefully we don't get taken to the woodshed.

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Lol because they always say terrible things about opposing players before games.

Let's see what is dial up for Bryce in game and that will tell you what he really thinks about him. 

These cats clearly haven't seen another McDaniel presser. "What am I supposed to say in this situation?" has literally never crossed that man's mind.

Yeah, the faces in the background are the stuff of nightmares. It's like the Going Under music video back there.

Skye Moore and Tutu Atwell are likely to start tumbling down their depth charts, and both would be huge improvements to our WR corps.

27 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Happy to be starting Moesert this week in Huddle FF league. 

Yup. Mostert owners seeing CAR on the schedule this week are like:

Bryce damn well better show out against Houston.

Not pointing fingers but someone's angry drunk posting, lol!

What a difference a week makes:

Granted, I asked about in the NFL ever, vs. Panthers all time, but this thread has a very different tone.

3 minutes ago, Carolina Disaster said:

He is a professional Athlete getting paid millions.  He needs to do his job and lead this team, whoever they are, to the best of his ability.  We drafted BY because what we thought he was... cerebral, a leader, etc.... BY in addition to poor play has not shown real leadership or any trait we thought was worth the 1st pick in the draft.  Where is the fire in his belly??  Where has he showed real emotion in the huddle, on the side lines, in press conference???  Haven't seen it.  I hated the pick but the love the panthers, so I do want him to succeed but damn people tired of the excuses.  Just show us something....anything.  Or lets give him a participation trophy cause he shows up cause that's what we do nowadays.

You know, I meant to make that a sub-paragraph under the post, but totally spaced on it:

I believe the reason that we're not seeing the leadership out of Bryce is a result of the coaches trying to cover their asses.

I look at Bryce, and I see a teacher's pet who's getting special treatment, and I think the rest of the team sees that and resents Bryce for it.

I see them holding Bryce out for a phantom injury, and it was pretty damning footage when you saw Bryce coming into practice, lock step with Josh McCown, and none of the players seemed glad to see him.

I see Reich taking the blame publicly for "calling a play for Thielen when Thielen wasn't on the field," and everyone questioning, why the hell would he admit to that? To me, it looks like a coach taking the fall to cover for a rookie clock management mistake. I know I've seen that in the workplace where a manager took the fall for their pet, and it sure looked like that to me.

And all that goes back to the post above. The coaches feel like they HAVE to shelter Bryce and HAVE to cover for him, because investing the world in him was their call, and they need to save face rather than let Bryce take the lumps.

As a result, I don't think we're seeing the leadership, because right now, the players don't see a leader. They see a teacher's pet.

Bryce needs to make mistakes, and take the blame in order to earn the respect of the locker room. The coaches coddling him only makes that process harder.

2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

He might not have asked for it, but if he didn't feel he was capable of living up to the expectations then he should've let them know and gracefully bowed out of the runnin for #1.  But he didn't.  So is he gonna return his salary?  No.  So it's hard to feel bad for the guy.

At the same time, the staff and FO believed in him and went all in on him, confident that he was worthy of the #1 overall pick and of being a franchise QB.

So in terms of whether to feel bad for him or not, or considering if expectations were unrealistic or too high - I'm sorry, brother, but this is the modern day NFL.  If we take a player at #1, we expect you to change the direction of our franchise for the better.  We expect you to set the tone and team culture.  For better or worse, that's what comes with being the #1 overall pick now, so it wasn't unfair or unrealistic.  And again, if he didn't feel he could live up to that, he should've let them know in the pre-draft process.

I don't feel bad for him. He'll cry himself to sleep on a bed of money the rest of his life regardless of which trajectory his NFL career takes.

We shat the bed, now we need to sleep in it. And that means rolling back and forth over this pant-leg excretion for the rest of the year.

The absolute worst case scenario is him being shell-shocked into mediocrity if there was any hope of him being our future starter.