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2 minutes ago, Icy89 said:

Would have guessed Steve Smith in the 3rd but no WR.   

Can't fathom Taylor Moton in the 2nd as an OL but I don't have anyone else who could make that kind of list.

DB I got Josh Norman and no idea beyond that.  All the other DBs who were good were early rounders (Gamble, Minter, Horn, even Godfrey as a 3rd rounder)

Norman is correct.  

That's 2 that have been guessed. 

Captain and Norman.  IMO, those are the only 2 people got a shot at guessing.  The other DB would be wild for someone to guess.  And zero shot anyone guesses the OL.  Really goes to show how you shouldn't care much about late round picks.  Because not only did Panthers make the list but it isn't even good Panthers. 

2 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Chris Gamble

Captain Munnerlyn

Mike Minter

Ryan Khalil.

 

this contains 1 correct answer for guessers.  Captain.  

Captain is either the easiest or 2nd easiest.  2 are what I would deem near impossible. 

Before you click below....

The best NFL draft pick ever at every slot from No. 1 to 262 - ESPN

ESPN just put out a list.  4 Panthers made the list.   3 are DBs.   1 is OL.  Unlimited pie for the first to guess 3 out of the 4 WITHOUT cheating!  I will know if you cheated because you will have gotten it right. 

Just now, Kuhndog94 said:

I haven't been this bricked up about the Panthers since 2015. 

 was anyone actually bricked up going into either of our Super Bowl runs? 

22 hours ago, Basbear said:

XL treatment is in the top 5 What The Fuccks for the the huddle. It just happens that the 32nd team and 33rd team GMs knew each other very well. Panthers viewed the 5th year option as being worth a late 6th and a trade was made to make XL a 1st rounder. 

He had injuries in OTAs, mini camp and TC. Like others had more injuries in season and just kept playing. Half the season was bad BY and dalton. He still had 500 yds, 5 TDs, and like 45 recs. 

Just super weird the treatment. BTW people love to focus on the bad plays, but there was only one WR that caught a TD on the AP NFL Defensive Player of the Year, can you guess who that was??

By many accounts the Pats wanted XL badly and had to select Polk instead, there's strong rumors that Polk is either going to be cut or traded for a 2078 7th rounder. Panthers could have easily been in this situation if not for the Bills allowing the trade up. It pays to have friends....

I feel XL will force some fans to plates of raccoon as he develops. (please stay healthy)

yeah, I think XL gets comical fan hate at this point.  

did he have some drops? Sure.  He was basically in the same ballpark as Worthy, Coleman, Mitchell, etc. of the same draft class.  Rookies.  Happens. 

His career began on a team that had horrific QB play.  Improved to meh QB play.   And finished with a couple random "good" games graded on a Bryce curve.  And it was literally just a couple.  Not sure what people expect to happen in that situation and Bryce isn't the naturally pairing in terms of play style for a WR like XL (which we all acknowledged when we drafted him). 

I think XL leads the team in yards this year actually.  I think father time officially catches AT this year.  I think Tmac will have some legit growing pains (which is also fine).  

56 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I generally believe that XL is less genuine with his schtick than Cam was. But, I know neither at a personal level, so I have no way to truly know. I know that if Sam Darnold or Matt Corrall was doing all the poo Cam did on/off the field and getting XL level coverage, I would be pretty over it too.

Not saying I have any issue with XL's antics but Cam's production outweighed the sideshow that he was. Currently XL is 98% sideshow and 2% production.

I don’t feel XL actively is seeking all the attention he gets.  Sometimes it approaches a border line of them making fun of him or using his uniqueness him for clicks.  Especially last year. 

1 hour ago, BlazeCarolina said:

Doesn't make it right.  And as you put it, you wanted to ban him from being country, which is essentially policing who he is as a person lol 

I get protecting the "asset", but banning people from living their life is crazy.

Russell Wilson likes to play helicopter pilot.  I would deem that WAY more dangerous.  Those things scare me.  I still wouldn't want to keep him from doing it if I were his boss.  I would just try not to think about it, haha.

right?  they have a choice to to choose to make absurd money playing a game. 

a team has the right to protect themselves if the highly paid athletes like to dabble in say motocross in the offseason and to discourage that type activity. 

I mean, Mahomes can still go play pickup ball all offseason.   He doesn't go to jail or get cut.  But if he gets hurt.....it impacts his money.   So he is discouraged from doing it....which IMO makes total sense.  

XL is basically a bona fide country kid with money.  That means ATVs, horses, and all sorts of fun.   I think the Panthers should discourage his risky fun.....just like with anyone else.  ATV accidents happen all the time.  You know why XL was so eager to help and was helpful? Because is clearly an ATV guy.  Our hero didn't stumble across some stranger stuck.  They were messing around as country folks do. 

9 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I don't agree with this mentality.

I understand the fear of injury situation, but you can't control people's lives like that.

You are only worked up because you are seeing it.  I imagine countless other athletes are doing risky stuff.  This wasn't even that bad.  He has a lot to risk too.  It's not like he is out there TRYING to get injured and ruin his career.  Calm down.

No one is upset.  And what I referred has been happening.  

Patrick Mahomes has an offseason basketball clause in his contract.  A ton of other physical activites like jet skiing, baseball and all sorts of physical activities are written into his contract. 

XL likely already has ATVs and stuff written into his contact.  League already has been inserting a lot of that stuff into basic contracts for non-top tier players and we have seen it pan out.

XL needs his contract reworked already.  Basically that outlaws him from being a country boy going forward. 

2 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Carolina only surpassed ARZ in passing attempts one time in Smith's whole career in Carolina. While ARZ was had several years in the top 10 in attempts, of which Carolina had none. We were a running team.

It's a testament to Smitty that he was able to build a HOF with the opportunities he had. I think if he had a stretch of his prime with Peyton, or Brady he would have embarrassed a lot guys. He would have had a shot a 2k yard season.

Looks like I glanced at Delhomme vs Warner attempts back when AZ was sucking so bad.   

Larry Fitzgerald was bigger and more consistent than 89.  God doesn't give everyone the same tools. I mean, if you shrunk Megatron and probably changes in his rank position.  89 was more entertaining.  89 quit on that 2010 team.  89 would often prioritize himself over the team and was a poo teammate (and we as a collective fanbase embrace so many of his demons).  You didn't have that w/ Fitz. 

Same demons that make 89 literally not even run routes and show up for his team because he had to take plays off to "show" Richard Sherman something.......are the same demons that had him assault his teammates often w/ cheap shots. 

I would assume if most were building a team from scratch and have the option of Fitz vs 89.....Fitz is winning that in a landslide. 

On 6/28/2025 at 7:26 AM, OneBadCat said:

Some of those guys? Yeah honestly you can. 
I would 100% take Steve Smith over Larry Fitzgerald, Harrison, even Mike Evans. He is 100% a better player than those guys in his prime.

If you look at the numbers Smith is historically under targeted in comparison to his contemporaries. He was only targeted 150 times or more only once in his career. Fitzgerald for example was targeted well above that 9 different seasons.

Had Smith played with Peyton, Brady, Greatest Show on Turf, or even with Warner in Arizona he would broken records. His 2008 season was ridiculous accumulating 1400 yards in 13 games on less than 80 receptions.

All time he also lost a season due to injury in 04, barely played WR as a rookie. Got robbed of 1k season with Clausen. Thats easily another 1800yds minimum that should have been tacked on to his #s.

The only guys I’d say for certain are better than Smith are Rice, Moss, TO, Megatron, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown.

Fitz was also 6-3, with a bigger body, and fantastic all timer at going up for the ball (not that 89 wasn't but again the god given size factors).  That could of had something to do w/ the targets.  Also, when times got hard, Larry Fitz was the same dude for his team. Easier option. 

just glancing at the pass attempts by teams, Carolina edged AZ years than the other way around.  I give Evans the edge too. 

89 more entertaining than both though w/ the ball in his hands and just in general.  

On 6/24/2025 at 9:50 PM, Joe Bear said:

I don't really care what Youtubers think. Young will either resemble Weeks 1-2 more, or Weeks 14-18 more. We don't know yet. Probably a mix of both would be my guess.

I consider last year Bryce's rookie year.....and I expect some regression/D adjustment in his second season in Canales' O.  Film is film.   So yeah, I agree....he won't be the dude that opened up the year week 1 or closed the door week 17.  We will get some dude in between it all most likely.  Which IMO puts us in a really awkward no man's land with Bryce. 

1 hour ago, TD alt said:

Low expectations and putting JAG on a pedestal. I guess I can understand. We've been in a bit of a desert of talent-rich wide receivers. I received a lot of smoke for trying to tell people that Philly Brown was JAG. Oh how so many Huddlers loved them some Philly...

JAG? Renfrow? Renfrow is a stylin, profiln, limousine riding, jet flying, kiss stealing, wheeling and dealing son of a gun.  A living and breathing Carolina legend.  

1 hour ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I would think so. If things got dire in the RB room, finding someone to match his production ain’t too hard. He made the team based on his ability to not muff a punt and make a decent attempt at a return. I will say it was nice to see someone sure handed back there but I can’t remember a single big return he ever had for us. 

Horn has to be penciled in as the default returner unless things look really bad at camp. I can see him as being a very special kick return guy. 

I don't think Horn should be penciled in our a default returner at all.  He had 14 career punt returns in college.   That's not much work.   

Renfrow has 70 NFL PR returns logged.   He should be the default guy penciled in IMO

Sometimes the priority is just can you not turn it over.  You see rookies choke a lot at the NFL level or guys you try to make return guys. 

well, players dictating things only works if you have the right collection of players to dictate things. 

and in all honesty, not sure if we can answer if we do or don't as fans given......there are no Thomas Davis types around that we know are actually about X and Y (based on years showing it).  Collective team is too new to us to know what these dudes are really about in terms of players carrying the burden of culture. 

32 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Just hating for the sake of hating. On a bloke that just wanted to play with his new toy after buying it. Everyone in here would be lying if they said they wouldn't try and make the calls if they owned the team 

I for one wouldn't of done what Tepper did.  Maybe you would have.   I would have only done really cool stuff.  Free beer!   All you can eat nachos!  A draft of only Clemson Tiger players at every spot to make up for the sins of the past.  Don't forget free beer! 

1 hour ago, AceMan said:

Whoever did this list is a clear Chiefs/Priest Holmes fan

Priest Holmes was a fantasy football for a couple seasons.  He must of won this guy some cash.  Because it was a tiny window vs the actual GOATS

18 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

I turned it off.  The guy grace me a super creepy vibe.  

And I was bored to tears. 

good owners get their teams real grass and Oz the mentalist. 

we get turf and this guy. 

25 minutes ago, NCBlu said:

They kept 7 last yr 7 of those guys.. so should just keep 7 this yr

week 1 active roster vs New Orleans was 5.  Think that first roster had 7 and they ended up swapping them for DBs or something like that. 

16 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

He might be half a football player at this point too.

14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

whos the odd man odd then? Assuming we carry 6

AT

XL

Tet

HR

JC

Moore?  Horn?

Moore.   Worst YAC per reception in the entire NFL paired w/ a high drop % last year.   Or you practice squad Horn who is probably getting too big of a bump.  6th round WRs generally aren't year 1 roster guys opening up the season.  

Hunter Renfrow is making this team. 

That is all. 

Panthers WR Theilen on Renfrow (AKA best route runner on the roster)

“He runs great choice routes. He finds space really well, great body control. Things that aren’t necessarily my strongest suit. I’ve made it work over the years. But he’s really good at them,” Thielen said. “So it’s been fun to see him in person. Obviously, I’ve seen him on tape. But you see it firsthand, you try to pick some things from what he does.”

Panthers S Moehrig on Renfrow

“That dude is a joystick, man,” Moehrig said. “He’s just so crafty at the way he runs routes, the way he moves. He’s just a true, all-around route runner. Can get in and out of his breaks, super quick and is just super deceptive. Off the field, he’s a great guy, really helpful. That’s Hunter for you.”

Huddle poster CRA on Renfrow

He's half man, half god, half possible centaur. 

*disclaimer, do not bet on the NFL or anything I say.  The NFL is crazy and so am I. 

16 hours ago, HaricotVert said:

I wont go quite so far as to say games are rigged.  You wouldnt have to work hard to convince me there was the occasional thumb on the scale but outright rigged? nah.

 

but collusion on the rest of the "business" of football, sure.  No one really believes that the only time the 32 owners act as one is during the negotiations of the CBA do they?

the games are often influenced in certain directions.  Players also favored or worked against. 

you see it in all sports. 

Fitzgerald should bump Harrison 

LT2 and AD should bump CMC and Priest 

I didn’t really make it past the O skill positions  

I know Clemson legend Rod Gardner when I see him.  Catching one of just one TDs. 

Just venmo me whatever I won