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10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I find it hilarious that people are still on the Darnold bandwagon. 

Then again, it took almost 3/4 of the 2020 season for the majority of the Huddle to see the obvious with Teddy. 

The level of deja vu is pretty crazy too. "It isn't Teddy's fault! It's *insert other unit/coaches*'s fault! Teddy can't do it all!"

Fast forward to late season, "WHY ARE WE EVEN STARTING TEDDY??!! PUT IN PJ OR WILL GRIER AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE!!"

I wouldn't call myself on the Darnold bandwagon. I don't think he is the answer here and that is depressing.  And I think that despite also recognizing that a historically bad WR performance and terrible playcalls are not doing him favors.

If he can find a way to play like he did in the 4th quarter consistently, it'd be a different story.  But he is who he is, and he isn't our long-term answer at QB.

5 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

We should all crucify him, bad bad Sam. What a terrible guy you are to not be a top 3 QB and carry this shitty offense on your back.

Im not saying Sam is perfect or even really good right now, but when you watch Jefferson and Thielen fight for receptions... It really made me miss Smitty.

We need more consistency out of Sam, the receivers, and Brady.

1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

Darnold is 10th in the league with the number of on target throws. 63% on target, in the same area with guys like Carr, Mahommes, and Mayfield.

He's also got more drops than most other QBs (I think he has 5th most of top 20 QBs by yardage and I don't think yesterday has been factored in yet), and has one of the lower number of bad throw percentages in that group. 

Darnold has lots of problems but he is really not getting help from his receivers outside of DJ, and even yesterday DJ let us down multiple times

13 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

Most of the drops were not drive killers though. We had 4 in that final drive still scored

But that's because we used 4 downs multiple times...

Just now, Ricky Spanish said:

It was more than 8

I think I'd read 10 total, so probably 2 were deemed uncatchable by PFF.

I think most of us could tell we were putting up a... historic performance on offense. What a crazy stat tho

8 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

You are correct. Cowboys showed that man coverage plus base four rush beats us. No need to bring the house and give the qbs easy throws if the dline is able to do it on their own. 
 

For some reason, joe Brady wasn’t calling counter plays to this, like rub routes, double routes, pocket moving throws or seam routes up the middle. 
 

I believe Rhule noticed this yesterday and is exhausted of some The play calls that Brady is calling. Yesterday, I counted about 5-6 recycled plays from our previous games… very disappointed in lack of creativity and originality in our playbook.

It often feels like Brady has bought into the boy genius crap too much...

Just now, AggieLean said:

I was a bit harsh with that. I just don’t think he has the ability to constantly bring up the team and will them to a victory. He hasn’t shown it in his 4 years in the league. This team is missing a Cam like player on offense. I’d argue the defense is missing that as well

That's fair. He's no Superman... Not even close. It did seem like he put the offense on his back in that 4th quarter but it was too little too late.

It feels a bit like this offense treats CMC as that Cam-like player.  Too bad he can't stay on the field anymore.

2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

In other words "we dont have much confidence in our QB or passing game in general to rely on it, so we gotta run to take the ball out his hands."

We will be getting another QB soon people.

 

Soon as in next year... Hopefully by then our receiving options can learn to fuging catch.

The crazy poo is we saw periods of dropsies like this in camp / preseason as well.  The consistency just isn't there.

1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

 Doesn’t seem to be a leader of men. 

Care to explain? This seems to be one of the few things he's actually good at... By all accounts he is a leader.

He's just unfortunately not very good for most of the game.

Edit: agree on other sentiments tho.  Darnold isn't really our answer... But I'm worried we will stick a rookie behind this shitty OL with even worse results...

Is he firing Brady mid season or what?

Weird to be in a place where we can suggest moving our #1 cb to safety and we could probably largely cover the loss of the corner. 

Getting him on the field in the next couple weeks will be big.  His leadership is needed.  Shaqs return will also be huge.

The defense completely folded at the most critical moments of the game... After the ST TD we needed to hold them and maintain momentum... And we just needed to keep them out of the end zone in OT.

Our injuries on D are really hurting us...

2 hours ago, CRA said:

QB is the most important position on the field.  And Sam Darnold is worse than Teddy.  So for that reason, we are worse.  

Clone the teams and pit a Darnold lead version vs a Teddy one.  I'm taking Teddy in a 2 out of 3 series.  

 

As long as those series aren't at near end of the game or require RedZone TDs...

Snows defense really relies on very specific players to work, it seems.  Once Shaq is back I think we will see the D improve again, and hopefully we find a way to solve safety.  But man, on that note Chinn feels wasted where he is.

I'm all for drafting the right young QB, but we also need an upgraded OL very badly. 

1 minute ago, Geno6316 said:

I don't  know what's wrong with Robby. In N.Y he was very reliable as a pass catcher. Very few drops. Did he have this problem here, last year???

He had 6 drops last year.  By percentages this year is even worse.

Darnold had two very good 4th quarter drives... Both despite drops. DJ trippled his drops in one game, and I still think if we win that coin toss, or the D gets the stop, Darnold leads that team to a win.

Darnold was bad until he wasn't. The difference was our receivers kept dropping balls.

Long term Darnold doesn't look like the answer, but the goddamn 3rd quarter is ruining this team and that falls on the coaches when it's week in and week out..

3 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Y’all are tripping with this statement, we field a converted dt at rt and Byron bell at left tackle, while sioulatu or however his name is spelled was at guard 

When healthy this o line might not be the worst Cam ever played behind but it sure wouldn't be one of the best. 

Cama best bet is a team ready to win now. That is not us.

The most frustrating part of this offense is how it can just click sometimes and blow people away...

Darnold would probably have had at least 1 more TD, close to 65% completion percentage and probably over 300 yards if we'd had half or a two thirds fewer drops... 10 drops is insane.

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Worse case scenario rhule and co use that last drive to excuse absolutely terrible play and think he’s the answer. We need to be actively looking for the future at qb and upgrade the oline as best we can.

What kind of future at QB are you expecting them to find mid season?  I'm done with retreads personally...

We moved on from Teddy and if Sam doesn't improve I think we will from him as well. 

I don't think he's the answer for us but if he can take that 4th quarter and play with that confidence and urgency all game, he could prove me wrong.

4 minutes ago, Panther1iDawg said:

I agree the WRs been dropping the ball all game, but Darnold has been horrible, before the tying the drive (which was great).  I always wanted to give him time, but after the last 3 games I think he is the guy who see "ghost".  I don't blame him completely for the losses, but he is part of the reason.

 

He was very good on the FG drive too. DJ dropped a TD or we may never have needed OT...