mav1234

What I'm pointing out is Carroll has more experience than Rivera, in a easy DIV, and started with a better team. I understand the frustration with him, we are use to having 7-9 be a bad season for us but we had a terrible team when he started and limited cap space because of Hurney. We will see after a few weeks if he can put a playoff team together. Still remember this unit is a improved 6-10 team right now under a Real GM.

I agree with most of what you are saying.  I'm not saying fire Rivera OR Shula, I'm just concerned.

So your blaming Rivera for having a 7-9 season with a defunct GM and a hard DIV yet your praising Carroll for it because he played in one of the worst DIV in football...

You act like Rivera made the playoffs his first year, like Carroll, or has shown an ability to win games when it matters.  I'm not saying fire him now, which you'd get if you read my posts.  I'm saying I'm tired of the seeming lack of intensity and fire.

Carroll appears to be a better coach than Rivera to this point, which isn't entirely surprising.  But Rivera hasn't shown he is a good coach at all, and I think after two losing seasons and the beginning of the season *looking* the same as last year it's pretty easy to understand why people are frustrated.

I wasn't advocating firing Rivera, but I wish I could see more of a spark out of him.

And they were a 7-9 team before that. How about giving this team a few more weeks until you throw the towel in.

Please.  Carroll has been an HC for four years before this and has two playoff appearances.  We have seen nothing to suggest that Rivera is capable of that, so I think you are being a bit silly by trying to make comparisons between how the two fanbases should feel about their coaches.

I'm not throwing in the towel but I'm sick of what seems like complacency and acceptance of losses to "good teams" by our coaches.  I hope it is not htat way in private.

I dont know have they had consecutive winning seasons the last couple of years?

are you seriously arguing this?  they were a playoff team last year.

come the fug on.

the reason people are pissed about this game is it was like watching last year all over again, but with what felt like even more conservative playcalling.

SEA scored the least amount for any winning team. Should they be worried about there offense and should they fire Pete Carrol?

I don't know, have they had consecutive losing seasons the last couple years and worries in the preseason about scoring points?

Technically, they are the second best in the league at this point.

 

And we're the second worst offense, by that logic.

For a season opener?  Yeah, I'd say so.  Week one is always sloppy for most teams, and we definitely had our bad moments (drops, dump mistakes, penalties, etc) but we were indeed in it up to the end.  Like I said, in a season opener, I'll take that over getting blown out anyday.

Only Jacksonville scored fewer points than we did.  Jacksonville.

I suppose you can say that the Seahawks are the best defense in the league by far, but I think this is also a pretty big commentary on the state of our offense.

I'm not happy with losing to anyone.

 

I am less angry when we play well overall against a very good team.

 

And I am never ready to panic and bench/cut/fire everybody after only one game.

 

Did we "play well"?  We didn't play poorly as a whole, our defense played pretty well, but our offense scored 7 points and had a turnover.  They failed to score enough points to win.  They did not play well.  You can't win in this league if you score 7 points against most teams.

I'm not saying that we should fire Rivera right now, nor bench our players.  But I am concerned because this is a pattern with this team and these coaches, so I'm worried about next week, and the weeks after.

Simply put, I think the two teams were pretty evenly matched but the Seahawks receivers simply out played the Panthers receivers. No surprise there.

Seriously?  Or maybe the coaches had a gameplan that allows those receives to exploit advantages they had.

I really don't look at the Seahawks receiver corps and feel blown away... at all.  It's decent, but not great.  I don't think our unit, in terms of talent, is that far behind, if behind at all.  The difference is that the Seahawks have coaches that can find ways to utilize their WRs.

Hey I'm with you, losing hurts... especially the way we lost.

However, I saw enough good things out of our team where I believe that this team has a future in the playoffs this year.

I saw a lot of good things, too.  I don't think the season is done because of this loss, but I fear we won't make the playoffs for the same reasons we lost this game (in the larger sense than "if d-will hadn't dumbled" or "greg hadn't dropped passes" etc).  If we don't find a way to gain a killer instinct and a coach willing to take risks, even in close games, I don't think we can pull off games against good teams.  We can hang with them, yes, but beat them?

I admit I could be wrong, and I do hope you are right.

Someone has to win and someone has to lose.

Just because you lose doesn't mean that your team and coaches suck.

I'm not saying your opinions are wrong but at the end of the day is writing a long story going to affect the outcome of the Panthers next game?

I don't think our team sucks but I'm tired of losing seasons.  We've had quite a few of them in recent memory.  I'm tired of making excuses and just accepting the zen way.  I've done that for the last several seasons, and I want to see us actually win close games.  I'm not calling for us to fire Rivera right now, but damn it, I wish I could see more fire from him.  I admit I might just be missing it/not privy to it, but it just feels like he has a lack of urgency all the damn time.

Probably would have worked just fine had D-will not fumbled

I don't really like that all the blame is going on a D-will fumble.  Greg dropped passes.  We made ridiculously conservative play calls at certain points.  Our defense finally gave up a huge f'ing TD.  I mean, we just didn't get it done... the D-Will fumble may seem like the last straw but there were points in that game where we didn't even need to get to that point...

12-7 loss to a Super Bowl contender because of a fumble on the 7 yard line and The Huddle goes bat sh*t crazy.

Why yes, I'm happy just losing to good teams.  It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.  Effort is what matters in the sport, anyway.  Everyone is a winner.  The entire NFCS gets a nice little trophy regardless of where they finish.

Alternatively, we can see the opportunities we had to take control of a game and beat that Super Bowl contender into the ground in the first half, that we failed to do.  We lacked the killer instinct, and I think that comes from the top.

damn my out of area-ness.  shoulda got madden for the sunday ticket!

filname says John Snow.  I am disappoint.  

I have a very hard time believing those aren't pictures or at least photoshopped; the water looks too good.

Your image has more than just dragon balls.

She's 14.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ariel_Winter

That isn't going to stop him.

7 year old's these days...

I would never let my daughter do that...

what the f, who the hell lets their kids dress up like that OR dance like that? grah

the correct place for that image is

love is creating some fake story on facebook with the guy you're dating to convince the world you're a fuging psychopath.