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19 minutes ago, frankw said:

Adam Thielen is 8th in receptions and 100th in yards per reception. He's slow but that's ridiculous. That matches Bryce Young's YPA. Honestly Mike Evans would probably go Robby Anderson on the sidelines here and I would not blame him one bit.

Ehh, Theilen's only .3 YPR less than last year... While that is a decent chunk less he's been trending down for the last few years (12.5 -> 10.8 -> 10.3 ... Now 9.9). 

Evans would be doing worse than he is now for sure, but def still over 1k yards. I think Evans would make the catches Chark has been dropping and then some.  

I don't think Evans is a sideline distraction, is he? Tbh I don't follow the Bucks that well.

I mean Robby renamed himself to Chosen, which should tell us all we need to know about him.

48 minutes ago, dave-o said:

First I will say he is the worst owner in the league...  But I will also say sh.i.t talkers need to realize there are consequences out in the real world...   I bet that Jags douche bag was talking the whole game...  I would have sent one of my meat heads out there...

Lol in the real world... It's a fuging football stadium and Tepper was in a private booth. Consequences lol

1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

Choosing not to pass judgment on someone isn't dumb. It's actually maturity.  More maturity than any of you are showing today. 

It's quite simple. Everyone has a choice. Just as Tepper  chose to act like an ass, and Y'all chose to be judgemental of him, which is the trendy thing to do, I choose not to pass judgment when I know every single soul on here and are this earth are sinners. All of you have shown your ass more than once in your life. Most are showing their ass today on the huddle. 

I don't care about being judged by others. I learned at an early age it does matter what anybody thinks of me. I know who I am. I'm also use to not going along with popular opinion. I choose to have a mind of my own. 

 

Some fuging billionaire owner acts like a child and throws a beer at an opposing teams fan and you say... We're all sinners?

I'm not the face of an NFL franchise lol

Wow what a game

Gotta go bpa at any position, which includes QB. Bryce isn't the answer, but we also shouldn't force a QB at 33 when there's likely to be great prospects there.  But if we get a new GM / coach and there's a QB they are really sold on at 33...

Gotta hold the owner to a higher standard than a random drunk fan...

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's too many revisions in the past. What if Slater, what if trade up for Herbert, what if Surtain......too many blunders to list.

No telling what our situation would be if we get those right. Honestly, probably would still suck. Terrible coaches, terrible owner. It all ends up the same.

Think about the Browns and Bengals with years of top 10 picks that ended up being studs elsewhere in the league amongst all the other busts. That's what we are headed for. NFL talent farm franchise.

That's all fair, I just mean that while you're right about Fields teasing with talent, we would instead be making a very different set of moves in the 2023 offseason than we did...

Ah well. 

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You know, if I have my choice....I'd rather have Brycs than Fields.

At least the bust is obvious and you just move on(Josh Rosen) versus Fields that just gives you a few more glimpses that keeps giving you false hope cling to. That relationship lasts longer and ends uglier.

Same results....still need a QB.

If we'd drafted Fields tho we never would have made the trade for Bryce...

What a fuging clown

A few good throws / quarters can give us some hope but it doesn't erase the overwhelming majority of the time he plays where he looks like garbage.  He'll get some time next year but man... Really looks like a bust, and I would be astonished if he ever ended up better than an average starter for any team in the future, as that would already be a HUGE leap.

48 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

Erbody likes to throw this defense around like its all world...its mediocre at best...they usually only have to defend 40yrds to the goal line...

you do realize defending 40 yards to the goal line is actually MUCH harder than defending... the whole field, right?

this defense isn't all world at all, but given injuries and the shitty pieces, it's performing generally better than expected. But man is it bad against the run, lol

37 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Panthers scored 10 points in the 1st half and their 3rd quarter touchdown included bryce throwing for all of 22 yards and mostly letting Chuba do the work. The Panthers 2nd quarter touchdown was on an end around that Bryce's only contribution to was not fumbling.

Panthers entered the 4th quarter down two scores. Before the Packers went to prevent, bryce had 170 yards, no TD passes, and 1 or 2 fumbles.

11 of his completions were against no rush, max cover, dink and dunk, so before the 4th quarter he was 12/25.

12/25, 170 yards, no TDs, multiple "coulda been" turnovers. That is quintessential bryce young. 

That is the definition of stat padding, even if he managed to get it close enough by the end to lose the game due to his complete lack of awareness. 

If he wasn't such garbage until defenses got tired and switched to prevent in the fourth he wouldn't need the defense (no points in the 3rd quarter) or refs (cannot control time, which bryce has no concept of)

All this against a defense that gave up nearly 400 yards and 4 TDs to baker mayfield, lost to Tommy Devito and Kenny Pickett, and at this point are probably one of the 3 or 4 worst defenses in the league. 

the Packers got Jaire Alexander back, who had been out for weeks... ofc now they've benched him but he is definitely gonna improve that defense. also jesus this prevent defense nonsense... some of you guys, hahahaha. 

Seems you didn't watch the game, which I can't blame you given this team blows. But if you want to actually look at the defensive alignments of the Packers, go for it:

No prevent defense until the last ~20 seconds of the game... Down by 14, I mean on the 3rd and 12 throw to Chark there are 6 packers rushing the passer, lol.  Who runs a prevent defense with 6 pass rushers.  Or in the redzone with a blitzing player coming after Young on BOTH of his TD throws to Chark. Hell, on the second TD pass they bring a blitzer, Bryce is flushed from the pocket and finds Chark in the back corner...

Want to call those last 2 throws stat padding against a prevent? hahaha okay, sure, whatever you want.

I have no problem with people shitting on Young, he's done plenty to deserve it, but this hilarious need to describe opponents defenses as prevent is confusing.

I for one prefer my quarterbacks to suck in the 4th quarter but well in the first!

30 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

yes in this scenario bryce is throwing for 19 yards a completion from the first quarter and not padding his stats in the 4th like he has all year

thank you for seeing through it all 

Man dude Bryce has blown all 4 quarters of most games. Calling the last couple weeks stat padding is bonkers tho. Leading come backs and last week only being let down by zebras and the defense...

We may not be the most attractive job but Johnson is a dude that turned Goff into a winner again so I doubt he's too worried about his QB right at the start.

While we poo on Tepper, willingness to spend on coordinators etc is probably attractive.

The whole question is if he can convince coaches he really will let them do their thing without interference. It's why I think hiring a president would be the right move, signals a real change in how he plans to be involved, then.

4 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Why does Burns get the ‘he doesn’t want to be here’ pass that excuses his abysmal play, but if he were a no name jag, people on this board would be calling for his head. 

Man a lot of us are also pretty tired of Burns.  I like him but not for what he'd cost us.  Ready to move on...

16 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

Gotta upgrade Bozeman. He hasn’t been good all year

With the WR class so deep, I think we probably go there top of the 2nd.  But I'd love for us to land a quality center in the draft... I thought Bozeman was the answer in the offseason but it doesn't seem so.

If we can see that level of 4th quarter play for a half or full game I'll be pretty excited for a full offseason with him working.

I think it's important to note how well DJ Chark played, too. If those two could get chemistry going, I suspect Chark is still going to be pretty cheap...

His agent still disputes the report entirely. Meh.

6 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Brian “money bags” burns a no show again. 

somehow he continues his 75+ overall PFF rating despite weeks of being between 65 and 55...

someone with a subscription should check his run defense and pass defense grades. 

I think stats don't often tell the whole story and I think that is true of Bryce the last two weeks - it's less to me about the yards or what not and more about the kind of throws he's making and plays he's creating.

It's still just a step but I went and watched his throws yesterday again and he just had some very impressive plays

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I really don't want this GM trading down. He is awful at it.

If it meant gathering future picks I wouldn't mind as much, lol.  Not like the people Fitterer drafts pan out so if he sets the next GM up well...

We really just need talent tho and 33 should have a ton of great options.

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Yeah we can agree to disagree on this one. We just have different opinions on this situation.

 

My issue wasn't even with the Ravens. They clearly wanted to sign Lamar for something less than the Watson deal. My issue was with the other teams who didn't even make an offer. Hell offer the Watson contract see if they match! That's all I was saying.

All good. Agree to disagree. We see the situation differently

Regardless our team would look different right now with Lamar for sure haha

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

The Ravens could have got 2 1st round picks out of the deal. They hired a new OC it was not out of the question that they would have went a different direction if someone offered him more money than they were willing to pay.

 

If the Ravens wanted Lamar why did they let him even attempt to test the market? That contract should have been done the dude has a MVP on his resume already.

 

Bengals didn't let Burrow test the market. Chargers didn't let Herbert test the market.

 

Cmon bro you know what was going on.

Lamar has been in the league longer than Burrows or Herbert... Lol... 

The Ravens said all along they wanted Lamar back, dude. They made it clear they did. They franchised him. I don't know what to tell you... They never let him test the market, lol