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On 9/5/2021 at 10:30 PM, SizzleBuzz said:

He's been at practice every day.

Granted, he's not participating fully but he's showed up and is on campus -- must need the money.

Tyrod was named the starter. Not looking good for ya.

36 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I see that as a big reason for his failure, quite possibly the biggest reason.

Being stupid enough to believe that was his biggest problem.

Explains his bad contracts to old players though.

10 minutes ago, Snake said:

Sounds to me like ADHD which isn't a huge problem.

Right. He puts in the work so not a huge deal.

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s way out of context. He was talking about tying to learn NE’s complicated playbook in a short offseason.

No, it goes back to when he talked about learning Norv Turner’s playbooks.

Scott built him special binders so they could help him learn the plays because of his ‘unique learning style’.
 

You can see one report here: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/05/cam-newton-carolina-panthers-scott-turner

You can tell, based on quotes from Cam himself, that learning this stuff wasn’t exactly effortless.

He mentioned that 2018-2019 was the first time he didn’t feel like he was ‘guessing’ all the time.

There is also this old quote I found.

“I can’t learn when everybody learns, my attention isn’t as pristine as other people’s, I know that, I’ve accepted that,” Newton said in September, 2019. “Me, being the way I am, when I’m ready to learn something, it might be at 8 p.m. at night. So if don’t want to bother Scott, nor do I want to ask other people questions, I wanna know something as simple as ‘What is a Yo motion?’, something as simple as, ‘What’s Bingo?’, something as complex as ‘What is Fleet?’ or ‘Who moves on Swap Shift?’, those things I already have in my book.”

32 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Reported to camp on time and been there every day...

...money is an incredibly strong catalyst for human behavior.

Right, but the reports I’ve seen have him showing up but not actually practicing. 
 

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2021/08/25/texans-training-camp-practice-deshaun-watson/

19 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Of course they can't make him play.

They can however force him to make a decision on whether or not he wants to collect the monies involved in that massive $150M+ contract...

...everything in life involves tradeoffs -- no play, no pay.

If he's so determined to never play for the Texans again why did he show up for camp?

Has he even practiced with the team this off season?

6 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Makes perfect sense as the goal is to win.

 

So what?

I promise you the NFL does not want him out there. That overrides anything the Texans would do.

3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Word from where? Who's your inside source?

No inside sources. One of the reporters who cover the team mentioned it at the time.

New footage of Cam talking to Mac as a kid.

1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Sort of. Elfien was an immediate FA signing. He wasn't the best guard available by far. This looked like a bad signing from day 1. 

Who was available? Do you know where they went and for how much?

8 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

One thing people need to realize is that we had to hit the reset button on the line this year simply because Marty left the cupboard bear across the line. We are starting with Moton and Paradis (who we only have for one year and leaves a lot to be desired) so we had to find plug and play guys to step in on year one under Fitt while the guys we draft get up to speed. 

We took two guys in Christiansen and Brown who look like they might contribute, hopefully soon. If that's the case then two more spots along the line have been plugged, with Moton under contract, so we can focus on acquiring a Center and a G/T in the draft or FA next offseason when we have buttloads of cash. 

Things aren't as dire as they seem. The cake is still baking, it's just not read yet.

Right, we got what was available to us in FA.

The word during the draft was there were a number of upset coaches because we kept trading down and passing a OL prospects.

What I took from that is Fitts has a multi year plan. We had a ton of needs and knew we couldn’t address every position, so we stocked up on picks and took BPA at the picks we got. OL happened to fall the way it did.

3 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Whew... yeah... ummm...

At a certain point you have to wonder if perhaps we can't choose a decent O-line coach and that our scouts just can't judge offensive linemen. We've got Meyer and Sparano working on it this season, but could we not, even by accident, develop more than one starting quality offensive lineman? We have Moton and... a bunch of guys who'd struggle to start on any other team in the league.

 

OL has become the hardest position to find quality guys.

That body type and athleticism is become more rare.

All teams struggle with this position. I think finding good players outside of the draft is like finding a good QB outside the draft. Pretty much impossible in normal circumstances.

Our problem has been drafting bad OL the past few years.

Thank Hurney.

47 minutes ago, Tbe said:

That one guy who beat him (73) was a 2020 7th round pick. He is a bubble player who barely made the team this year and last.

The guy he ‘pancaked’ is a 5th round rookie.

That one guy who beat him (73) was a 2020 7th round pick. He is a bubble player who barely made the team this year and last.

Read him every reply in this thread.

14 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Sweet Jets Intel. Nothing more. Gone next week.

Yep, he was just on their squad a few days ago. He knows the playbook.

29 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Has to be higher end players for then to still be around, I would think. Cannot imagine any PS guys are in that group. 

CMC’s status is still unknown I think.

CMC isn’t going to say anything negative or controversial.

Ask him if he’ll host a huddle party at his house.

23 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I don't care about Saleh because he's not here. I think Rhule is a good dude who would be a lot of fun to have a beer with (provided it were brewed by a Temple alum), but there's nothing other than blind optimism and a love of Owls football that would have me optimistic about his tenure here. I want us to win games, no matter who the coach happens to be. I just don't think we'll win more than we'll lose with The Owl King. 

But I hope the dude proves me wrong this year.

It’s really not possible to win consistently without a stud QB. Ron wouldn’t have lasted 3 years without Cam. Remember when Ron was almost fired?

I’m optimistic because he’s drafting better than most NFL coaches and that goes a long way.

I don’t expect him to be some coaching savant. He needs time to grow into the role. I like what he’s doing and I’m willing to wait for results.

Now if Fields and Jones end up being studs while Sam proves to be a turd, then I’ll be pissed. Until then, let’s see how this defense develops. 

2 hours ago, CanePantherHornet said:

Brian Burns was asked how Rhule differs from Rivera. Burns laughed and said that Rivera really understood what he was going through as a player and connected with him more on a personal level, while Rhule was more strategic and analytical. It was on Aquib Talib's podcast. 

KeepPounding.tv claims that players have contacted him and said negative things about how Rhule interacts with players. This is supposedly what led to Denzel Perryman getting traded.

In the camp confidential videos he seems extremely impersonal, like he's a race horse owner talking about what he needs to do with them better. The team meeting footage felt really weird to me too; half of the guys were obviously not paying attention while with Rivera they seemed laser focused.

I just listened to that podcast and that’s not really what Burns said.

He said Ron was more defensive minded and more hands on with the D. Rhule is more offensive.

Said Ron gave him a different perspective of the game since he played it. He could get more hands on while Rhule is more strategic and scheme oriented since he doesn’t have experience as a player.

Nothing about not connecting with guys personally.

2 hours ago, CRA said:

Capers took over an expansion team

Fox took over a 1 win team

Rivera took over a 2 win team

They all were in the postseason within 3 years. 

It's the NFL.  This year and the next IMO should decide if Rhule should stay or leave. 

The two win team got Rivera Cam. The circumstances are very different here.

Tepper very much wants to emulate the Steelers. I see him giving Rhule a long rope.

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Yeah and he coached the Jets. Poor coach at that point and poor team. I was thinking of him and Belicheck when I said this.

Fun fact. When Carrol became the Seahawks HC, people complained that he was turning the org into ‘USC North’ because of the former Trojans he kept bringing in.

29 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

The success of the coach often hinges on how successful the organization is from top to bottom. In that case Rhule has the advantage.

Coaching success in the modern era is 100% linked to the QB.

Example: Was Pete Carrol a bad coach the first time around?

But I learned on the Huddle that players only get experience during preseason games.

12 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

I do wonder what kind of "injury" Fletch has that is season ending 

Are yips a medically recognized condition?