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4 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

22+ at this point. So by paying a lower albeit productive player 30~ we are only going to drive up DJ’s price in house. When we probably could have locked him down long term for 18-20. 

Elite WR money is $22+ a year avg.

Robbie is 12.5.

DJ is getting 11 mil next year at the end of his rookie contract.

I bet DJ averages out at 21.

42 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

I would say 10 per year is the max. DJ is a 12-15 per year receiver.

You guys need to adjust your expectations.

DJ Moore’s 5th year option is 11 mil.

Keenan Allen is making 20.

DJ will be up there. 

23 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

this is basically he’s gone writing on the wall. 

They are using DJ’s 5th year option next year. After that, he’ll get the big contract.

8 minutes ago, Steves89 said:

I have been reading this board since it started in 2003. The best place to find panthers news and insight. I don't often post as I don't often feel that I have insightful things to say (that's called self-regard by the way, maybe one or two of you should try it) 

After 17 years of reading this board, following the Panthers, and reading the, let's face, frankly moronic garbage most of you post, this cicada is ready to emerge from its cocoon to awkwardly step over the shockingly low bar that is the standards of discourse around here and share a modicum of perspective to the larvae inching across the Huddle excreting their under-informed, over-indulged, doomsday-predicting detritus. 

My perspective is this: It is the pre-season - the most hopeful time of the year. The time of year when football is back, and yet, has not even begun. We have the whole, beautiful season of jubilant expectation not yet tainted by the cankered blossom of reality. More to the point, this is the most exciting draft class I can remember. Nearly every single draft pick has flashed promise. I mean, look at them.

 

Jaycee Horn - Frankly the pick I am most disappointed by, and I am really not that disappointed. He is in all likelihood an above-average starter from day one and has a chance to be a perennial pro-bowler. Swipe right on this dude. 

Terrace Marshall - Exceeded expectations and expectations were pretty high. He is our 3rd wr which practically makes him a starter day 1. Two draft picks. Two quality starters. Tough to top that.

Brady Christiansen - Played well through two preseason games. Lots are clamoring for him to start day 1. That would be three day 1 starters from our first three picks. Pretty amazing. More likely, he will settle into a starting roll later in the season. Right now, his floor looks like a high quality depth. I'll take it.

Tommy Tremble - Upgrades our blocking at the position immediately and has really flashed some ability as a receiver. Will get lots fo playing time. Also, has a name that sounds like an abandoned character that was planned to be the friend of Biff from Back to the Future. And he has only the second best name in this crop which brings us too...

Chuba Hubbard - Played very well through two preseason games. Will get tons of playing time spelling CMC and keeping him fresh. That's five picks and five hits so far. 

Daviyon Nixon - played well, flashed athleticism and provides quality depth in the middle of the line. Not bad for a rookie DT

Keith Taylor - played well in camp and showed some promise before his injury. even if he doesn't pan out, we are talking about a rookie 5th rounder.

Deonte Brown - Apparently a mountain got lost on its way to Appalachia and wandered onto our practice field. Turns out he can play. People are actually talking about him as a potential starter. Personally, I doubt it, but having quality depth from the 193rd pick in the draft when he is a rookie is outstanding. 

Shi Smith - Let's face it: Smith would be a starter on like, 75% of panthers teams in the past. Maybe you don't remember the days of Keary Colbert or Dwayne Jarrett. But I do. And those were 2nd rounders. The value we got at this pick is amazing!

Thomas Fletcher- I have nothing to say about this man. But he is a Panther and will forever be my brother. Great pick. 10/10.

Phil Hoskins - Seems to be outplaying Daviyon Nixon, who many projected going much earlier than we got him. Hoskins has been excellent in the action he has seen and will provide excellent depth.

With God as my witness, I will appreciated his manifestly above-average draft class!

We could not ask for a more promising draft class at this point. Spout whatever negative bullspit you want, but I am here to tell you that this is a great class. Enjoy it. It doesn't happen very often.  I remember Eric Shelton for God's sake. And if you don't know who Eric Shelton is, ask your grandfather how he developed that twitch. 

So here is my advise: Enjoy the ever-present now. Build your castles in the sky. And don't you ever dis a wide receiver named Smith again.

 

Just now, Panthers8969 said:

So darnold has sat out of all the joint practices too bc his starting OL wasn’t healthy? 

You can’t get hit in practice.

I think the thinking is this.

They don’t want him in there without the starting offensive line and WR. 

However, we are so thin at Oline (and Robbie is a little banged up) that they don’t want to risk those guys being out for long.

I do suspect Darnold is still struggling a bit though based on what I heard from camp last week.

No excuses for Slye.

Darnold was a calculated risk from day one. Young first round talent that may be salvageable. They tried to get better options but those all fell through. He is, and always was, Plan D.
 

The only valid criticism is the decision to pass on Fields. We’ll see how that plays out in 10 weeks or so.

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Well see how much the contracts are but it’s not smart signing two big contracts to wrs. Especially with us just drafting terrace who is gonna be an impact player early. We have a lot of decisions to make down the road. Hope they have a good plan.

Robby will get a 2-3 year mid-tier deal with a voidable 3rd.

DJ will get a deal that’s cheap in the beginning but balloons out after Robby’s contract. 
 

21 minutes ago, NAS said:

If only we kept a guy we drafted by the name of Harrison Butker. 
 

 

 

Fug Hurney

The bears O line is completely collapsing on every play. Hard to get a decent assessment of Fields.

He looks pretty calm under fire though.

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I feel so bad for the Cowboy fans

/s

2 minutes ago, onmyown said:

This is pretty accurate. Bottom 6 of the league is definitely our arena. It was around bottom 10 of the league but that got fuged up averaging 5.7 wins over the last 3 seasons.

Objectively speaking and looking at the NFL and having to pick 6 teams I’d probably pick the Panthers as well, tbh. 

The deep bottom dwellers a couple years ago have surfaced with promising QBs and loves (Browns, Bengals, Jags, Chargers etc) and it’s a shuffle down at the bottom between the Lions, Raiders, Jets and yea…Panthers.

Dear lord don’t let us be the new age Browns.

The Jets are 100% the new browns. 
 

Maybe we’re just the new Bucs(before Brady)?

The draft is a crapshoot. Our success (if it turns out that way) will prob have as much to do with the volume of picks we had as it does our ability to evaluate.

Hurn always put his eggs in 3-4 picks. Not great odds of success.

I appreciate Carboni reporting the good and bad. Especially when it comes to Darnold.

Just now, BlackPanther21_ said:

Absolutely no question about it, these guys clearly need game time together to adjust to the system. Especially Darnold and the O line. If they don’t play Saturday, that’s a problem 

Game time isn’t going to fix what isn’t happening in practice.

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The D is going to go as far as our DL will carry it. There's more talent in the secondary now, but they're still very inexperienced.

 

That’s not very far.

Teams are going to run and quick pass all over our LB Corp.

49 minutes ago, frankw said:

Being late August and a 17 game schedule is around the corner would it not be more prudent at this stage to get him used to live fire so to speak in this offense rather than trying to stage favorable scenarios for him? It seems like we are being more cautious with him than some teams with actual rookie quarterbacks.

We haven’t even finalized the starting O-line yet. Don’t put him back there until we at least know the best group to protect him.

Yeah, seems like 78 blew that up.

11 hours ago, Zod said:

You can get two 15 minute covid tests at cvs for 23 bucks. Same one pro sports use.

Good to know! Her test only took 12 hours. Negative.

Sucks. Wife is mildly sick right now downstairs. Test results come back in a few days.

At the very least, I fully expect exposure within 3 weeks of my daughter starting school. Kids are super-duper-spreaders.

The area around uncc honestly isn’t great, but he’ll be fine. Typical college area stuff. I’m sure he’ll spend his time on campus or taking the light rail uptown. 

As for food, nothing special up that way really. I grab dinner around there every Thursday night. Lots of ‘typical’ places right by campus to choose from. Just pull up your google map.

7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Except all the people who for some reason we're convinced they were trading up for Mac Jones. That was one strong rumor I never bought.

Yeah, because Jones’ pro day hadn’t happened yet. They weren’t trading up to get a guy they hadn’t seen.

15 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I found it odd we were never that interested. Didn’t even attend his 2nd Pro Day. I guess it just goes to show how confident we are in Darnold…

We did attend. Just wasn’t Rhule and Brady.

Also, the 49ers trade went down during his first pro day and everyone pretty much knew what was going to happen. 

50 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

With the new preseason schedule, it's odd how teams are treating the 1st game like they used to treat the 4th game. I would've thought we would see them approach it like the old 2nd, 3rd, and 4th games in that order.

I'm guessing now that we're going to see the new preseason schedule treated like the old 4th, 3rd, and 1st games in that order. I didn't expect that.

Isn’t the first cut down on Tuesday? If so, this makes sense.