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    How short a leash will Young be on?

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    On 4/28/2024 at 2:36 PM, carpanfan96 said:

    This team is being set up to run 35-40 times a game. Passing when not off play action will be quick half field reads as much as possible. Most of the game he’s going to be handing the ball off and making one/two read progressions off play action. 
     

    that’s what I meant by hiding him. They’ve already said they will need all three rb’s and all will see the field. 

     

    On 4/28/2024 at 2:36 PM, carpanfan96 said:

    This team is being set up to run 35-40 times a game. Passing when not off play action will be quick half field reads as much as possible. Most of the game he’s going to be handing the ball off and making one/two read progressions off play action. 
     

    that’s what I meant by hiding him. They’ve already said they will need all three rb’s and all will see the field. 

    I agree with the thinking is to run more. I think that is one reason the concern was not as much with Icky. He performed much better his rookie year when it was more straight ahead smash mouth football. 

    Austin Corbett's move to center has seemed "inevitable"

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    5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

    You must be a rookie in Panthers fan minicamp. *Sarcasm*  Moves like this are almost as much a part of the Panthers organization as Keep Pounding. 

    I know at one time there was talk of Brady Christensen moving around on the OL  line to learn different positions but I think that was 2 coaches ago. Has he ever actually ever played as much as a series at center? For those who might have better insight than me, would he be a viable backup? 

    According to Legette, Panthers will draft Legette at #33

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    1 hour ago, top dawg said:

    No he was not. You guys keep saying Smitty is high on these guys just because he gives you the positives or food for thought. Smith was "very high" on a day 3 receiver? Come on, man. Smitty acknowledges the positives and negatives, and offers a scenario where receivers might be successful. That's pretty much it. 

    In this class, he's high on the top 3. I'd say he's very high on Nabers and Harrison. Outside of the top 3, questions abound, but he can envision a scenario where many of them can work.

    Indeed he was extremely high on a Shi Smith. I have not stated Steve Smith was high on “these guys” as you say. He was definitely high on Shi Smith. That does not make his “Steve Smith’s” opinion meaningless. It just goes to show that sometimes even knowledgable people are not always 100% right. 

    According to Legette, Panthers will draft Legette at #33

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    3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

    Steve Smith already said that Legette is past where Metcalf was when he was drafted, so why limit him at this point? Shenault's biggest issue in my opinion is that he was never a good ball tracker. That's why he never took hold in the league as a starter. Legette is an excellent ball tracker, so I can't see it. 

    It's nice to know that you will cheer for him. I wouldn't expect anything less. 

    I remember Steve Smith was very high on Shi Smith as well. 

    According to Legette, Panthers will draft Legette at #33

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    4 hours ago, The Natural said:

    I can confidently say that is not the current plan.

    Agree, I don’t think Dan Morgan would tell a player that. He may have said something that was misunderstood. 

     


     

    4 hours ago, The Natural said:

    I can confidently say that is not the current plan.

     

    4 hours ago, The Natural said:

    I can confidently say that is not the current plan.

     

    Offensive Tackle: What to do?

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    4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

    Personally, i think this offensive line will not be as bad this year, even if they do nothing.  However, there are some really interesting questions/points of discussion.  The purpose here is not to force my opinion, but to start a dialogue.   Assume that Bryce will be the QB (because this is the real world and it is unlikely that we move on from Bryce this early.  We hired a QB savant for a reason.)

    Yet we have a situation.  Moton is solid but not spectacular, and he is slated to earn $29.75m in 2024 and again in 2025.  He is 30.  Something, in my opinion, needs to be done about this.  stay tuned.

    Ekwonu has not been very good at LT for two seasons.  His coach is a foul-mouthed, football-kissing (with tongue, I heard), Tepper snitch whose players demonstrated little in the areas of growth, proper technique, preparation, and self-discipline (Penalties).  Is it fair to kick Icky inside now, or should we hire a coach who works on his technique?  He has the tools.  His lack of preparation led to false starts, holding penalties, and sacks.  He has upside, so do you kick him inside?

    Christensen is a stud athlete, but those skills are not really utilized here.  Just a reminder from his pre-draft workouts:

    • His 10-foot-4-inch broad jump was eye-popping, and a sign of the kind of explosive ability.
    •  a 34-inch vertical leap
    • a 4.89 second 40-yard dash. 
    • To put those numbers into context, his 40 time would have been the second-fastest among offensive linemen at the 2020 Scouting Combine (behind only Buccaneers first-round pick Tristan Wirfs' 4.85). The broad jump mark would have been best among blockers; the vertical jump, third. 
    • Christensen also had 30 repetitions of the 225-pound bench press (which would have been fifth-most at last year's Combine), and his times in the short-shuttle and three-cone drill would have been second best among offensive linemen.

    Personally, I do not see him as a guard, and his numbers support this.  But how do you have this kind of athlete and get nothing from him?  That is what coaches do.  I realize that BC was injured this season, but he was kicked around and not provided a position as a rookie and he had Campen as his coach last year.  What a waste.

    Here are my thoughts, and this is to suggest there will be some form of change.  This takes into account Moton's crippling cap figure, Ickey's rawness, and BC's misuse--all opinions that can be debated, but I think we might agree that this is common ground.

    Some options that come to mind:

    1. Switch BC and Ickey.  If you do that, you do the same thing to Ickey that you did to BC.  However, Ickey might be a stud G--I just wish he had been developed.  Most experts agree that Ekwonu has the size, strength, and skill set to be a strong LT for another decade.  BC's upside at LT is probably average.  Ickey's upside at G is probably elite.

    2. Draft a LG and make BC a reserve swing OT.  

    3.  Cut Moton (post June 1 saves around half the $$) and move BC to RT.   Draft a T with pick 33 or 65

    4.  Waive Moton (not sure if anyone takes that contract)  Draft a T w/ pick 33 or 65

    5.  Trade Moton (again, not sure about the cap if we do)  Draft a T w/ pick 33 or 65

    6.  Restructure Moton, paying him until he is 35--not too old for an OL.

    7.  Leave it the way it is.  BC was not developed as a LG, maybe he will be now. 

    I think this needs to be decided before free agency and the draft. 

    So if you look at the OL as it stands, you have an investment of nearly $57m for five offensive linemen.  That is nearly 1/4 of the entire cap ($240m) for 2024.  The OL has potential, but has (my opinion) not been developed since Campen arrived.

    • LT: Ekwonu  ($7,500,000 salary cap figure for 2024)
    • LG: Christensen  ($1,650,000 salary cap figure for 2024)
    • C;  Bozeman  ($7,640,000 salary cap figure for 2024)
    • RG: Corbett  ($10,100 salary cap figure for 2024)
    • RT:  Moton  ($29,750,000 salary cap figure for 2024)

    The depth?  I see only Cade Mays as a player with hope to become a dependable backup.

    These are the kinds of posts I like during the off season.  It is long, thereby filtering out the crowd who want to bitch and moan without data or prethought. 

     

    What say you, realistically?  Remember, we need 2 WRs, a TE, maybe a pass-catching RB, etc.  We do not have a first rounder and our cap space is limited if you think about Burns, Brown, etc.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Moton has not missed a game in several years. He has proven to be one of the most dependable players through all the adversity. He is not spectacular, agreed. We need to find a way to keep him if it means restructure. 

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    Dan Morgan named GM/President

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    4 hours ago, ChibCU said:

    Hanging out a tailgate and providing pizza = a win GM hire? Panthers are trash. 

    The fact that he is president of football operations is a win. That seems to Imply the chain of command will have a different structure which is positive. I looked at the names that were floated around, Dan Morgan is as knowledgable as most of them. I just hope the micro-managing will lessen to a degree. One advantage that Dan Morgan has is that he already knows this roster and the strengths of the players. He can start a plan to improve the weakest spots immediately. 

    Panthers interview requests

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    On 1/8/2024 at 6:47 PM, hepcat said:

    The scouting department needs to be completely gutted. Hopefully the new GM can build a competent one that doesn't involve David Tepper at all. 

    Not sure if it’s the scouting department, or if the management does not respect their evaluations. 

    • Pie 1

    NFL Coach/GM Updates

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    On 1/8/2024 at 10:39 AM, Ricky Spanish said:

    Ben Johnson makes that offense go.

    Dan is the hype man that brings the whole team together.

    Seattle went downhill after Quinn left. He was the architect of the great Seattle defenses that made Pete Carrol look so good.  In Carolina defense suffered when McDermont went to Buffalo. Assistant coaches can make a huge difference. 

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    Dan Morgan going for GM job

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    4 hours ago, WarHeel said:

    I just want to know if there was anyone else in the building that advocated for Bryce over CJ and Mingo over Dell, 

    4 hours ago, SuperBowlBound said:

    I’ve been staunchly against retaining any member of this front office. You can’t have this many catastrophic whiffs with each personnel decision. That’s just my opinion. Hurney/Gettleman still had hits with guys like Beane around. This front office hasn’t even produced a single or walk. Maybe I’m wrong about Dan but it would be hard for me to stomach someone that helped put this team together calling the final shots that Tepper would allow. 

    I can understand that line of thinking. However, McDermont and Brandon Beane were on staff here and are doing ok with Buffalo. 

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