Carolina Cajun

1 hour ago, TN05 said:

Bryce young has thrown one touchdown in the last five games

said it earlier today, his spirit is completely broken.  Maybe he could have been a good QB, but whatever chance there was has been completely set on fire.  He was trying, thinking he was doing alright (we all knew it wasn't true, but at least internally they fed that they were behind him), then reports start coming out that his footwork sucks, he doesn't get the plays in on time, coaches wanted him benched.  I think he was shielded somewhat from these criticisms (and in fairness, they are all fair criticisms) until the damn broke and now he realizes no one has his back and pretty much everyone thinks he sucks.  He's never faced adversity in his life being the #1 HS prospect, Heisman, almost never losing in college or high school and always having people suck his dick...well, criticism comes and he's mentally broken.  Maybe he gets it together and becomes great, maybe he can regroup in the offseason, but there's a good chance that between shitty oline, bad receivers, awful coaching, and his own actual fug ups, we've completely trashed this guys career.

tier 3

I think his spirit is broke.  honestly its about time to bench him.  

1 hour ago, cardiackat88. said:

Half a million followers is kinda weak tbh.

There is tons of influencers and content creators out there now with like 15m+ that none of us have ever even heard of lol.

ThatsGoodSports I will say deserves a bigger audience, guy is legitimately funny and makes great content.  IN FACT, if you remember the "Im Dying Inside" sad panthers t-shirts, he made those.  I think TheBigCat gave like 20 of them out at the texans game.

O-line.  Anyone saying qb, get it out of your head, young will start next year, after that maybe, but he's still what tepper views as the building block.  Receiver would also be good.  Also, everyone keeps saying the draft is deep at certain positions, but always remember, it requires actually HITTING on those picks.  We took cade mays and deonte brown late because OGs are supposed to be had late in drafts...well we whiffed and were still at square 1.  It only helps if we hit on the picks and I have no confidence in that.

our FG drive we played under center with a lot of presnap movement, and then we just said "nah, we should suck" and went right back to the bullshit we've been doing.  Positive though, o-line looked better, but it did seem they changed the blocking scheme up and simplified it for them with a much larger commitment to downhill running.  

100% of the time, that first play under reich would have been either a pass, or a slow developing zone run BS.  

LOL

its early, but the offense already looks lightyears better, dedicated to the run, and alot of presnap movement.

1 hour ago, Fright said:

Frank didn’t want Young and when he realized how bad he sucks, he probably gave up. I can’t even blame him with how poo young has been. Young sold himself as something he’s not and got Frank and others canned.

He didnt want Young I agree, but how bad he sucks is certainly debatable.  Last year Russell Wilson looked like utter trash, but under Sean Payton he looks good.  Systems matter for QBs and it very well could be that we were square pegging Young into a round hole.  If you put Cam Newton in the wrong system, instead of being the greatest running threat of a QB of our time, he could have looked like crap.  Don't get me wrong, it doesn't look great, but I'm willing to see if there's a coach with a plan that plays to his strengths before I wholly give up on him.

17 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

true, I stand corrected.... but the bulk of his wins were under Rivers and Luck... 2 qbs that force wins that really arent due to coaching...

Now THIS is absolutely correct.  They held the Offense together and they had a good defense, those 2 things will produce wins as long as you don't get in the way.  Hell it was the Rivera Method with Cam and a dominant defense.

1 hour ago, Johnstonny said:

Meathead thought he could fast track it again without giving it any thought...thats ego...

Dude, you're first point is so insanely wrong it hurts.  He had Luck his first season in 2018, 2019 he retired before the season and they had jacoby brissett, third year they had the final year of Phillip rivers career, next was Carson Wentz, and his final year in Indy he had Matt Ryan.  In no world did he have andrew luck for "most of it".  also its pretty openly known now that Reich wanted Stroud, Tepper wanted Young, so we took young.

Reich is a trashcan of a coach, but we don't have to make up stuff to prove our point.

Will probably go through, a lot of buzz will come up with ben johnson and jim harbaugh, and the when everyone is excited about one of them Tepper will hire some window licking moron like hue jackson.  

14 minutes ago, recceice said:

Josh Rosen - Steve Wilkes is a bad thought..

that is the correct answer.  Urban failed at every turn and was a scumbag.  Rosens play however was so bad that it got Wilks fired

12 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

"Because Tabor has interim HC experience" is the answer most have said. What you should really say is, it doesn't matter. Brown or Evero can't fix this team. Why waste their time with the interim tag? They won't be the HC next season.

Kinda, honestly I think he wanted a guaranteed loser because when Wilks coached well last season it made it harder for him to hire the guy HE wanted because fans generally wanted Wilks.  Last thing he wants is evero being a good coach then having that same problem this off-season, so might as well go with a coach we know will lose.

I bet against the panthers this week with a friend of mine.  He's a titans fan and swore they were worse, I knew we were worse.  Easiest 20 bucks ever.

my god, I didnt even think about it, dude is set for life with whats happened the past 2 seasons.  owed 36 mil when fired in Indy, has a 4 year contract here where hes gonna get paid, and thats not counting the money he made from indy BEFORE he was fired.  

3 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Yeah he's a heavy-footed mauler and it's becoming clear he's not the athletic tackle we need in this zone blocking scheme.  In the right scheme he could maybe be a LT but he'd be wiping away his tears with hundred dollar bills as an All Pro LG.  It's not like those guys don't get paid.

The sad truth is, I really wonder if Christensen at Tackle and icky at guard would actually be a good combo.  If I remember correctly, Brady had some athleticism, his knock was the arm length (god what a dumb thing scouts fixate on).  I also seem to remember that Brady was never really a mauler so literally flipping them could be a good thing next season.  As I've said, Obviously that cant be the plan (gotta get someone this offseason for tackle), but I damn sure would open the competition and see if it could work.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Well we can't now. The OL is a fuging MASH unit.

That's a next year issue. Get him ready all offseason to play OG.

Plus we are 1-10. WTF does it really matter?

thats kinda my point, he needs to learn the position, get him some real world play time right now.  The Toth dude was listed as a Tackle, and Ricky Lee is a tackle.  Dont really care who it is, they can go and be just as bad as Icky is while icky gets 6 games to help prepare him to play guard next season.

Dont really care who they trot out at LT, but we need to rip the bandaid off and just move him to Guard.  I'd rather a really good guard than the worst LT in the NFL.  If he's bummed about it, its his own fault, he can either have a long career possibly as a guard, or be out of the NFL in 2 years as a Tackle.

Reich right now

3 minutes ago, Wanderlai said:

Franchise is in the worst spot it has ever been in. Im not sure there is a player on this team I enjoy watching. 

Frankie Luvu and Derrick Brown.  Outside of that...welp, not much

I will say we are as dysfunctional as it gets, but the Texans are proof positive that just because they fired a coach after 1 year it doesn't mean you cant find a good coach.  Lets just look at recent history of coaches fired after 1 season and their replacements

Houston 2021-David Culley --> 2022 Lovie Smith --> Demeco ryans 

Denver broncos 2022 - Hackett --> Sean Payton

Jaguars 2021 - Urban Meyer --> Doug Pederson

Browns 2019 - Freddie Kitchens  --> Kevin Stefanski

Cardinals 2018 - Steve Wilks --> Kliff Kingsbury

49ers 2015 - Tomsula --> 2016 Chip Kelly --> Kyle Shanahan

Browns 2013 - Rob Chudzinkski --> Mike Pettine

Jaguars 2012 - Mike Mularkey --> Gus Bradley

Raiders 2011 - Hue Jackson --> Dennis Allen

I made sure to keep the the stinkers too, but if you look at that list, there's some incredibly good coaches that we would be lucky to have, and all went to "dumpster fire organizations" who had just fired a coach after 1 year.  If we have trouble attracting a coach its because of an overly demanding and meddling owner, not because we fired a coach after 1 season and even then, if Jim Irsay can attract a coach with him being insane, and the Texans being able to attract a coach while the owner has said racist poo, Im pretty sure Tepper can find a way to attract a coach.

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I’m not sure Matt Rhule qualifies as a sports world shitty person.  He was just a joke coach. 

he spent years here and when he walked out the door….no one named or unnamed has said or leaked anything about him being a garbage human.  He just didn’t know what he was doing.  Which is why we “hate” him.  I think it’s lately just incompetence vs shitty perosning. 

I mean largely it’s his excuse making from the podium that earned him that narrative but I think that’s just a drowning coach out to his league.  He wasn’t Urban Meyer.  He is just a fool.  Who no one has ever really trashed to my knowledge as a person. 

ya know, I can agree with that, Urban was a wild piece of poo and for as much as I dislike Rhule, he wasnt the kind of awful person Urban Meyer was.

3 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

He is a shitty owner and what seems like a meddling owner which makes him a shitty owner but please tell us all how he is a "shitty person"? Huge difference and quite an accusation by yourself. I count people like child molesters, rapists, drug dealers, murderers, etc as "shitty people" myself. You sound as if maybe you know him in person or on a personal level so I would love to know what makes him a shitty person. That's one hell of an accusation because our team and organization has been a joke since he took over. How also do you know that he would rather relocate than admit he has been garbage as an owner? Did he tell you all of this?

As I just mentioned it was known he was petty and spiteful before he bought the team, this is all publicly available.  Someone doesn't have to commit murder or rape someone to be a shitty person, you can just be a shitty person, that is an absurd claim.  He's a shitty person like how Matt Rhule was a shitty person, blame everyone else and take zero accountability.  As for your last statement, no I didn't have any conversations with him, I just actually know his backstory and know how people of his ilk operate.  I've worked with and known lots of people exactly like that, and they are all absolutely insufferable.