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7 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Chau Smith-Wade pulling up to training camp like...

Woah!....nice to see Kelvin Benjamin is getting back in shape...

5 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Is there a bigger red flag than wanting to trade a guy you just drafted lol

Not if you are the bungels, they have seriously fuged this situation up as well as the trey Hendrickson thing.

6 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I think he said 26 or higher is possible if we sign say Alexander or Ramsey and shore up the secondary.

Biiiiiig eyeroll on this.  First, Look at historical stats of the most recent historical great DBs.  I plucked 3, Revis, Sherman, and Norman (cuzz he was our guy).  Combined post age 30, there are TWO pro bowls between those 3 and wanna get this...ZERO seasons with 16 games started.  ALL missed time.  It is RARE that Corners survive that long in the NFL and its about time we started recognizing this fact.  Jaycee is a good bet because it hasnt been anything seriously devastating injury wise, and with his sample size he could and should be an incredible piece for the panthers through age 30.

Jaire kinda flops on the other side, hes 28...so hes under 30, but he wants his payday before it comes up, hes also been injury prone lately.  Bulk of the contract will be on opposite side of 30.  Will both of these guys help us be better in 2026?  SURE!  No doubt, but the question is, will these guys help us past 2026...not sure. The investment isnt worth the risk, nor would the ROI be anywhere close to worth it.  Neither guy is moving us from a 6-8 win team to a 8-10 team, period.

My point is we're in this state a 6-8 win team IMO and he projects us as  a 4-6 win team.  EVEN if we think Jaire or Ramsey will make us a 6-8 win team, it in NO WAY is worth the money or capital to move that much just to suck kinda less.  

2 hours ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

Thanks for sharing.  I haven’t gotten all the way through but it seems very in depth. I don’t know much about this guy but like the fact that he is high on the panthers and optimistic but did not let that really play into his rankings.  I think 28 is a good stake in the ground. I would question the credibility of anyone ranking this team higher than 24/25. 

I kinda skimmed the video, I do kinda believe 28 is preeeettty low for the panthers, I mean, Basically saying we're the 5th worst team in the league when we were the 8th last year and meanwhile having an upgraded roster (and an easier schedule) almost top to bottom is kinda a meh take.  Now us between 22-26, I can see it, but this is a roster with more defensive talent, more offensive depth, and more seasoned coaching, base-line I'd say is for us to essentially stay where we were last year.

13 hours ago, Seltzer said:

I think Horn is probably going to be used as the primary PR to start the season, and maybe they will incorporate him into some jet sweeps, etc.

My hope is that he follows the Smitty path of being the returner and then getting incorporated into the rest of the offense.

Separation for the most part was still a major issue last year with our WRs.

Hopefully Horn can help with that in the long-term as well as adding much needed speed in general to the WR group

 

I think if he stays healthy, he'll be a stretch gadget guy.  If teams are sitting on short and intermediate routes, throw horn out there for a series or 2 to run fly routes, it'll only take bryce hitting on one to loosen the defense some.  

I do think we'll see a pretty substantive jump in the quality of our defense this year, but it comes from multiple things.  That front line is gonna be pretty impressive IMO with healthy brown, Bobby Brown, and Tershawn Warton.  thats gonna open space for our LB's and Moehrig dropping into the box helping stuff the run.  Evero CAN have a very successful defense, he has to have the pieces and I do think he has the pieces he needed.  Lets see what his scheme cooks up with quality pieces and not just UDFAs and random JAGS.

I miss PanthersUnited

2 minutes ago, Mistuh Jones said:

Yeah they ain't related broski

welp, stand corrected, I wasnt sure, looked it up on google and it said joe was.  Poo me away!

Agree, I've been impressed with Morgan thus far in his stint as GM.  Last year, overhaul O-line, fix the middle of the line and started getting pieces to go around Bryce.  I like last years draft a lot honestly.  XL has shown potential, JT Sanders looked good as a rookie TE, Trev Wallace looked decent and Chau Smith Wade looked like a great value pick as well as snagging Jalen Coker UDFA.

This year, I think he was playin games, might have even been sneaking some of the Tet sandbagging talk, then boosting Jalon walker, I think he wanted Tet to fall and I think he kinda knew that the the difference between "top" edge rushers and guys we got was FAR smaller than the difference between Tet to 2nd round recievers.  He took Value, then doubled up on a strength of the draft WHERE the strength was highest, edge on day 2.  Very well navigated on his part IMO.

why not, just kinda depth at this point.  Main positive I think really is that Jaycee showed that Joe kinda showed and tutored them as to what it takes to being a pro and focus on the game.

1 hour ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1915649399583014987?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

 

theres sandbagging every draft, but after the pick I felt better and really felt like we tried to play some teams.  I remember in december/november he was like a #3/#4 overall pick.  I think teams were sandbagging hard on him.  In Fairness, I think teams were also (probably us too) sandbagging Mason Graham.  Teams took the bait on Tet.  I had a feeling something was up when we did a personal visit with him.  didnt seem like our MO.  That said, I will die on the hill that IMO, we were prepared to trade back, the idea was if Ashton Jeanty fell, and I still think the Cowboys sell their soul  for #8 if he was there, he wasnt so they stayed pat.  Legit all of this falls in line with the rumors.

28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think the typical team is dumb enough to do that for a fringe 1st round pick. That's a Panthers special idiotic decision. 

Well, not for shedeur, but Giants did what I thought.  I absolutely think Dart would have been there in the second, moved up for 5th year option

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

I'm thinking Sanders is going to Giants in the 2nd

Dont be shocked if one of Browns, Giants, or MAYBE saints, Raiders, or Jets could move up into the end of the first, less for the value, but for the 5th year option, same reason that we did.

5 minutes ago, theinstrumental said:

Love it! He's an actual first-rounder, and the defensive prospects aren't. Easy choice.

Completely agree.  I don't hate the defensive players, but the difference between shear Stewart and a middle second rounder isn't much to me but difference between tmac a mid 2nd receiver is massive

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

So they took his money and gave it to Theilen 

honestly, I love it.  Rewards for production, cuts if not.  We paid our own over achievers and moved on from guys who didnt do squat (or dramatic reduction in pay (IE Shy Tuttle).  Players want to play for organizations that reward play, we've been kinda the opposite of that during much of the tepper term, but gotta change the perception at some point.

1 hour ago, XClown1986 said:

This guy believed Kealoha Pilares and Ryne Robinson were the "real deal." He doesn't know poo about evaluating players.

In fairness, he played with the guys, his job today is a lot different than it was back then.  Yea, he knew ball but he wasnt breaking down tape and prospects the way he is now.  He always was probably trying to be a good friend/teammate rather than breaking down why those guys are dogshit.

1 hour ago, Panthro said:

Here’s hoping they send 12 and 44 for 8

Dont be surprised if this happens, in fact, I REAAALLLY think it will happen.  If Jeanty is there at 8 (high probability IMO that he is) then I think Cowboys will get aggressive to move up and get him.  Not only is he the best RB in the class, considered the best RB in the draft and according to NFL.com is the single highest graded prospect, but on top of that he's from the Dallas metro, so on top of best RB, Jerry would also sell a ton of jerseys.  Last point, Ive noticed over the years, certain GMs feel comfortable trading and working with certain other GMs and organizations, and considering Morgan made a trade of mingo last year with the cowboys tells me theres atleast a line of communication between the orgs.

2 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/1899571761123115174?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

Panthers, in turn, move on from Johnny Hekker, who spent the past three years in Carolina.

Carolina is swapping out 35 year old kickers.

So, at least a few people will still understand "Pete & Pete" and "Secret World of Alex Mack" references in the locker room.

Rip Michelle Tractenberg

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Spending money in FA is not the hard part of the job.  Managing the cap and more importantly the draft is where he should be judged and based off one year its pretty fuging ugly

Man, huddle is rough on that draft and I don't get it.  They may not develop, but xl, sanders, and wallace ALL showed flashes of potential as rookies.  In fact, I'd say jt sanders was the best rookie te we've ever fielded (I do also agree our history of drafting tight end has been trash, but still).  We also got Coker as udfa, and people overlook and forget we swapped a useless 7th round pick for a pretty inexpensive yet decent corner in michael Jackson.  Is last year's draft a home run, no, is it bad, so far no.

5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

 

Not sure where this is coming from---we will be able to pay a LT if he has earned it.  Nobody knows the cap situation in 2 years.  Core players get re-signed.  Our $150m guards will be ending their deals and over 30.  Restructure, cut, etc.

 

5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

 

Not sure where this is coming from---we will be able to pay a LT if he has earned it.  Nobody knows the cap situation in 2 years.  Core players get re-signed.  Our $150m guards will be ending their deals and over 30.  Restructure, cut, etc.

 

He is under club control for sure this year and 5th year option the next (there's NO SHOT we don't pick up the option)...so it comes from logic that we still have 2 years of club control of emwonu.  Pretty simple.

57 minutes ago, Bostonheelfish said:

Also, looks like if a top OT is there, makes a lot of sense to pick at 8. Doesn’t look like we have a lot of money to pay Icky after next season.

good thing we have control of ikey for 2 more seasons then

Good move, doesnt stop us from drafting a center, the thing is we realized the importance of a good O-line last year, it was instrumental in Bryce's development, so having O-line depth is good and Corbett is a fine interior lineman.  

I've had a boner for Green this entire process once I dug more on him on tape.  I think he plays hard and violent and we need that.  My only concern is the assault stuff.  Seeing and wondering how that goes, however if we've done actual dilligent background work and he clears, we need him in a panthers jersey.  

I agree, I think the pick at 8 will be Jeanty, but its gonna be another team picking from a big swing to get him.

God, Reading the write up on Mike Green just makes me want him more.  In the weaknesses it has listed 

• Plays so hard that he occasionally runs out of gas.

Lol Thats akin to hearing "My biggest flaw is I work too hard"....except its not him saying it, its the analyst lul.