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    Draft Wish list!! prospects not talked about..

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    2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    Sounds like drafting with desperation. Use cheap free agents for these things. There are still roster cuts to come.

    I mean, if you're relying on a late 3rd round rookie to be forced into a starting role at a key position, you're probably already fuged anyway.

    Okay .. It still doesn’t change the fact .. That we have better options at WR then we do at other positions if a starter gets hurt.. It could be desperation or improving confidence if a unfortunate situation occurs.. 

    And like I said that 3rd rounder doesn’t have to be a starter but my opinion is he should be aming to atleast have a guy getting a jersey every Sunday..

    Draft Wish list!! prospects not talked about..

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    2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    I think we want a contributor with #39 but with a late 3rd rounder you're reaching pretty hard to try to find an instant impact guy at most positions. I'd prefer to think longer term at that point.

    Agree to disagree.. I think with all top 100 picks you should be looking for some kind of contribution.. Either battling for a starting spot in camp, or Special team starter or 3rd down specialist..  4th and 5th are for depth and future predictions moves..

    jmo

    Draft Wish list!! prospects not talked about..

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    9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    I honestly don't think that Chark and Thielen are going to dramatically alter our draft plans.  Chark is on a one year prove it deal to stay healthy. If he does, then a long-term deal is certainly possible. Thielen is a 33 year old stop gap. The draft should be about trying to find long-term solutions, not quick fix bandaids. Quick fix bandaids is what second and third tier free agency is about.

    I can agree but I do think they want a contributor with the top 3 picks.. And at this point I don’t think AT can climb the depth chart.. Then he has no special team ability.. So your 2nd or 3rd round pick is barely getting a jersey on game day.. JMO

    Draft Wish list!! prospects not talked about..

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    4 hours ago, MillionDollarCam said:

    I feel like Pace would be getting more attention if he was bigger, I think he’ll have a solid career though.

    My Pace love is based on his pit bull mentality.. I’ve seen bigger players run away from Olinmen .. This dude is outweighed by atleast 100 pounds in those matches up and takes them on head up.. And wins !!

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    What do you want to do with pick #39?

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    16 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

     

    Going from 39 to say 20-22, which I think he could fall to is much more realistic then going from say 39 next year to 5th. Which is what I was talking about in regards to getting MHJ. 

    I think it could be similar jmo.. And that’s the point.. If I’m giving up a lot I’d consider it for a generational prospect.. I don’t want to do either at this point to be honest because I think making this move or the Marvin move (after what we did to get the QB) is killing future assets no matter which you think might be easier.. At some point both moves gets you to the Ricky Williams trading a full draft for 2 players type move.. Jumping 20 spots back in the 1st isn’t going to be cheap especially without a 1st until 2025.. I don’t know why some ppl think this is going to be easy .. Then add in the prospect isn’t a blue chip prospects?? Why is this a good idea??

    What do you want to do with pick #39?

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    1 hour ago, carpanfan96 said:

    Moving up into the top 5 to get MHJ next draft is gonna cost what it did to move to #1 in this draft if not more and I'd lead towards more

    You’re talking about a 20 pick jump back into the 1st in this post..

    1 hour ago, carpanfan96 said:

    I'm starting to think they go the QB and familiar wr target route and pick 39 eventually ends up being pick 20 or so. 

     

    Think jsn drops a bit in the first to make it possible 

    How do you think that’s going happen??

    Are we just drafting 2 players this year and no picks before the 4th round next?? 
    Because that move could cost that.. For JSN not Julio Jones or Randy Moss.. Is that worth it??

    Draft Senario??

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    7 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

    I’d take less of an instant impact in year 1 to get a potential #1 WR to pair as rookies with the QB and have them grow together.

    We don’t have a first next year and it’s easier to find a top pass rusher in free agency than a top WR, if Flowers is there you gotta take him and make DE priority one next year with all that cap room.

    Cool … Jmo having a elite pass rush is more impactful then a WR..

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    Draft Senario??

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    1 minute ago, Shocker said:

    There are rumblings Smith could go at 8 to Atlanta which I don’t think will happen but could.  He won’t get out of round 1 IMO.  He is undersized but crazy good and super athletic and explosive.  

    Yeah I agree.. And again I love flowers but the impact of adding smith on the other side as Burns is to big of a impact then Flowers would have on our Offense..

    What do you want to do with pick #39?

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    2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

    It would be IF we acquired Houston’s 2nd and if he dropped to the middle of the first. 32 and 39 for pick 20 for example and take JSN. I’m literally just making this poo up. Stroud at 2 and he top weapon from the previous year at 20. 

    Yeah this is a lot of fantasy gymnastics to make this happen .. Nah I’m good..

    What do you want to do with pick #39?

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    4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

    Marvin is a top 5 pick next year. JSN may drop in the mid 1st because he was limited last year with a hamstring. He isn’t MHJ’s level, but he was very good the prior year and could be WR1 for our QB. 2 seconds could possibly snag him if he drops. 

    Your not getting off cheap moving up in the 1st this year.. We already gave up a lot for the QB .. Moving back up will cost a lot more future picks right?? 
    If I’m doing that Im going all in on a prospect like Marvin not JSN .. I’m sorry it just doesn’t make sense to do this if I’m not getting something close to generational..

    What do you want to do with pick #39?

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    1 minute ago, Jaxel said:

    I will say, chark and Marshall are much better athletes the Jeudy, I don't know how their route running compares though.

    That was my point as athletes TMJ is better.. Route running I would have given to Juedy but I don’t know why Denver even had him on the market unless something hasn’t worked out.. So he might not have a phd in routes like I originally thought..

    Good Question.. What type of edge do you want..

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    1 hour ago, mickeye76 said:

    Lots of options at DL and Edge. 

    Y'all have touched on a few. Guys I have not heard mentioned much is a guy named Ya ya.  Had a nice combine. I like Barno alot to thrive in a 3-4.  Him and Burns is gonna be a fast aggressive pass rush. We could add a guy like YAYA to the rotation. His combine was good but I don't think he moved out of reach.  Mike Morris out of Michigan is a bruiser who could get reps at DE. That 39th pick is gonna be prime time for edge or DE I think. I'm looking forward to seeing who Envero likes.  I'm hoping to see Jack Campbell's name called by us too.  Jack and Shaq in the middle would be pretty awesome. I think Luvu could play inside or outside as a situational Blitzer.  I also have high hopes for Barno that speed is on par with Will McDonald.  I like Derrick Hall to but he also reminds me someone we already have on the roster. He reminds me of Haynes.  So I don't want guys too comparable to who we already got. Someone unique with traits we might be missing is the goal. 

    Derrick Hall is way bigger than Haynes thoe..

    Zay Flowers is him!

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    6 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

    I did.

    Cool I’m glad your cyrstal ball was better then 10 nfl staffs and most of the scouting community.. But Reality check is most of the top QB’s in the league weren’t seen as “generational talent “ coming out of the draft process only 3 in mordern era have been seen that way.. So it should be okay if our new QB wasn’t seen as that when drafted..lol

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