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1 minute ago, Panthers Rhule said:

what are you watching?

 

PFF stream on YouTube and watching the CBS sports tracker online. The TV isn't on once I figured out ESPN was delaying picks to get their commercials and talking points in.

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Wait a couple minutes then. They're ahead of ESPN that most of us are watching 

Will do, but ESPN is falling behind the times a bit and this coming from an over 50's guy.

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Stop leaking picks. We can all go on Twitter too.

Not a member of Twitter. Watching the PFF stream.

Sanders drafted by the Bills...

...TJ that is.

Wow New Orleans. Geez.

I'd be willing to package the 2nd round pick with something else (2nd round next year?) and see if the Bengals are willing to trade Hendrickson. Yeah, he's going to cost, but it would fill the DE role nicely.

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Jalon Walker falling a bit

I heard it was possible. Comparisons to Jeremy Chinn - a tweener without a defined position.

Size matters, apparently.

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

My virgin ears cannot take much more....

If you're a Panthers fan, those ears lost their virginity years ago...

Will "T-Rex" Campbell.

Jags trading up to the #2 spot.

17 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

At least they are arguing over 2 solid prospects. But throwing Nicole's name in there doesn't help their image lol

Especially if she is expressing girth issues.

In other words...if a team is hot for Walker and he's available at 8, they'd better come strong with a trade offer.

LB - Chris Paul Jr

WR - Tez Johnson

TE - Harold Fannin

S - Xavier Watts

ED - Nic Scourton

DL - TJ Sanders

CB - Cobee Bryant

I give Davis about 10 games with the Mavs before suffering a season-ending injury.

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Might not be a package deal, though. There are rumors that Giants GM Joe Schoen covers Shedeur in Round 1 (#3 overall)

 

 

Wouldn't that be fun to see Deion gameplanning against the Giants and his son. Oooof. 

Let's be realistic - the Panthers are not going to sign All Pros to fit all of their needs. There are too many to fill and not enough cap space. No team has All Pros littered throughout the team - cheap role players are a staple of even the most successful franchises.

If they are willing to return on reasonable contracts, I'd bring back:

Andy Dalton

Tommy Tremble

Feleipe Franks

David Moore

Mike Jackson

Caleb Farley

Xavier Woods

Jordan Fuller

Sam Franklin

Johnny Hekker

JJ Jansen

I'd offer a team-friendly deal to Shaq Thompson. It's not like the Panthers have a glut of LBers and they are lacking veteran leaders. Say what you will about Shaq (I'm not a big fan), but he does offer solid play and a vet presence.

I'd offer the same to Brady Christensen, but expect he'll go elsewhere. Cade Mays can be the de facto center, but I'd try to find another in the draft. The rest of the draft should be focused on the DLine, Edge and LB. I wouldn't bat an eye if the entire draft was focused on the defense.

Some of the guys I'd try to sign would not be guaranteed starting jobs (looking at you Woods/Fuller). Hopefully the draft can push those positions. The key here is not to go wild with high-priced free agent signings. 2025 will not be the year the Panthers compete for a Superb Owl, but should set the table nicely to be a competitor in 2026.

44 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

No words... except to say I think we'll likely stay away from trying to fix guys with "attitude issues" in the future.

It's hard to "fix" guys without a good veteran presence around and the Panthers haven't had that since the old guard left (Keuchly, Olsen, Cam, etc.). 

Wonder if ATL has a trade setup to send Penix somewhere else.

Morale may be a problem, but I think a MUCH larger problem throughout Rhule's and Reich's tenures has been the absolute lack of leadership. 

Rhule really screwed up when he let Olsen, Cam and Luke walk out the door, not because their of their skillset, but the leadership they provided. There hasn't been a leader in that locker room since then. 

The coach can provide some leadership, but you also need the players to provide their own. Who is going to hold their feet to the fire when the coaches aren't always around? 

Until that problem is addressed, I don't think the Panthers move forward. 

Now, it's possible Derrick Brown steps up. I could certainly see that happening. And maybe Bryce will, once he establishes himself a bit more, but I don't see any other obvious candidates.

On 12/19/2023 at 7:46 PM, Khyber53 said:

Third fewest yards allowed in the NFL, but 4th most points... that's more about the field position of our opponents than anything else. It's not about good coaching.

At all.

I don't disagree with this take.

Additionally, Evero needs to discuss Jeremy Chinn and why he isn't playing him more than a handful of snaps per game. That is some seriously wasted talent.

27-13 Bears.

Falcons out there doing Falcon things...

34 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We are going to have a very tough decision with him in the future, I suspect. 

It sucks for him and us. Us a lot more, TBH.

It is going to be a tough decision.

Imagine he comes back and balls out the rest of the year. What's the team's best option then? Keep him and sign him to an extension or try to trade him for draft capital?

At this point, if a team comes calling with a high 2nd round pick, how tough would it be to turn that down?

This team is just difficult to watch, so I'm turning it off. I'll be back next year to see if there's any improvement, but I doubt they beat a good college team right now.