45catfan

6 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

trading out of 33 probably not worth it

 

If we can get an extra pick, then it's worth it.

The Vikings gave up a late 4th and a 5th to move up one spot to get McCarthy.  It was a just a 4th in value. Likely had to throw in the 5th to sweeten the offer.

1 minute ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

OTs flying off the board. Weird draft

QBs and QBs best friends.  Welocme to the modern NFL.  Next will be a run on WRs.

The real winners are Rattler and Pratt.  They could go early in the second round now.  Think Giants and Raiders.  To a lesser extent Saints, Rams and Pittsburgh.

Just now, Shocker said:

I felt like this was a strange pick…Mayer must have been underwhelming 

BPA.  Plus, TEs usually take a couple of years to develop.  Remember the Bears gave up on Olsen pretty quickly.  We are glad they did.

History!!! SIX QBs in the top 12!

I hate our front office so damn much.

8 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Bo Nix?

Why yes, yes it was.

I'm going there.

Fugging called it last year.  Epic QB class in 2024.  Just had to wait one more year. But no, we HAD TO trad up for Young.  Fug Fitterer!!!

10 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

5 QB's top 10 is crazy to me

 

Not to me.  Not this QB class.

Bo Nix?

5 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Over/under Qbs taken tonight: 4.5

What y'all got?

Lol, hit the over by pick #10.  We might be looking at history tonight fellas.  Well....tying history (1983).

2 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Bowers to NYJ is my guess.

Ditto.

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Vikings saw another QB go and got antsy.

The Vikings held their water as long as they could.  Rumors had it they were likely moving to #5 and possibly as high as #3.  I think they came out smelling pretty good.  Only 50 points in value on a trade chart.

Just now, Chad_Cota said:

Not even close to the same player.. more like Rodney Pete vibes 

You didn't watch him play then.  He's not quite as slippery once out of the pocket, but he can move.  Penix is more of a polished pocket passer than Vick was.  He's a sneaky good athlete though.

Rodney Peete was never anything special.  Poor comp.

McCarthy comes off the board right here.

Penix gives the Falcons Vick vibes.

Called it, Penix before McCarthy. Shocked it was the Falcons though.

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

If I were starting a game next week and had McCarthy and Penix on my roster--its Penix all day.  McCarthy seems to be running a self-promotion add.  At the beginning of all this, you and I (I think) debated whether McCarthy would be there at 33. 

I was listening to a radio show today and they discussed QBs at length.  Maye, was the biggest boom or bust prospect of the big 6.  McCarthy was the biggest question mark.  He played with an elite OL, dominant run game and heck of a head coach.  What would he look like on a, say. 1-15 NFL team? Nix, while universally QB6, they said at least you know what you are getting...solid, steady, yet unspectacular.  Obviously know Williams and Daniels are going off the board #1, #2.  Maye, may (pun), not be QB3 and that also may not be the Patriots with the third selection.  For all the UNC homers around here, Drake isn't the lock he was looking like months ago.  People have picked his game apart and come away less than blown away.

Yup, certain names are starting to get attached to teams now.

I've also heard don't be shocked if Penix goes ahead pf McCarthy.  Personally, I've always had Penix higher.  For whatever reason about a month ago McCarthy caught fire, but that fire seems to be smoldering a bit now. Penix is being talked about to either the Vikings or Raiders and Nix to the Broncos, but that would be a later trade, not in the first round.

Over/under Qbs taken tonight: 4.5

What y'all got?

4 minutes ago, rayzor said:

no one in that room is good enough reason for us not to draft 2 good WRs from this class who could be long term contributors.

 

In order to get what you are saying the double dip need to be two of the first three picks.  You can't count on late round guys.  Again, if the board says another WR is the BPA, then I'm all for it.  I don't want to reach just so the WR room can be deeper--rather have more bodies.  Especially when a guy at another position is ranked higher on our board.

We need to draft a WR early and then if the board later on says a WR is the BPA, then we double dip.  Don't force it for the sake of filling out position group.  You always have UFAs for that.

21 hours ago, Leaky_Faucet said:

You know there is a lot of things pointing to Legette and Carolina (most notably Legette himself). 

I also think about it this way. If there is a lot of preverbal smoke around the Panthers taking him at 33. Would you not share this in an attempt to get one of the teams late in the first to pull the trigger on you.

Personally, I think Legette is overrated and closer to a 3rd round talent. Unfortunately I do think the Panthers really like him. 

If you're Legette and you know this, then maybe you announce it in an attempt to get one of the competitors to draft you late in the 1st. You get a small salary bump and get to play for somebody who was just in the postseason. 

Arizona, Buffalo, Detroit, Baltimore, San Francisco, and Kansas City are the last 6 picks in the 1st. All of them can use a WR.

Yup, several teams at the end of round one could end up taking a WR.  I think this public leak is smoke to have one of those teams who would otherwise consider WR in the second round think about prioritize wideout over another position because XL won't be there when they pick again.  In other words, force a team to reach for XL and have another player drop to Carolina who the Panthers really want.

I usually only double dip at WR in a trade back with an additional pick or two in my mocks.